Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Did you ever notice how often Troi could short-circuit an entire episode because she would have just been able to "sense" what's going on? For instance, in "Conspiracy" where a bunch of high ranking Star Fleet officers are compromised by a parasite... she never detects anything wrong.

In the episode where Data is kidnapped, again, Troi is conveniently not able to sense anything.

The episode where Picard is replaced with a doppelganger (which acts pretty differently from him, for example, drinking with the crew) she senses nothing.

I don't know if the writers forgot she exists or what.

One of the few times her empathic capabilities are deployed in the way you'd expect is in Nemesis. Good move in a shitty movie. Well done...

 

[Captain Syrup]

One of the few times her empathic capabilities are deployed in the way you'd expect is in Nemesis. Good move in a shitty movie. Well done...

Even that doesn’t count, because all it really does is cancel out the episode "Violations" where she let a random guy get crucified for telepathic assault, then immediately got mind-raped by the real creep.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Even that doesn’t count, because all it really does is cancel out the episode "Violations" where she let a random guy get crucified for telepathic assault, then immediately got mind-raped by the real creep.

That's unfortunate, because having an empath aboard that can sense people on cloaked ships is one reliable way to counter whatever bullshit the Romulans are planning this week. Troi confuses the shit out of me. Sometimes she gives valid insights, and then she's Captain Obvious five minutes later, leaving my brain in a quite frustrated, antagonised state.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Troi confuses the shit out of me.

Troi is probably one of the most useless telepaths in fiction. I was rewatching that otherwise great episode "Clues" and realized they basically use Troi like a spooky weather vane for plot tension. “Something is... wrong...". Yeah, no shit. She never knows what it is, she just sort of clutches her temples like she’s trying to remember if she left the stove on until Picard solves everything.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Troi is probably one of the most useless telepaths in fiction. I was rewatching that otherwise great episode "Clues" and realized they basically use Troi like a spooky weather vane for plot tension. “Something is... wrong...". Yeah, no shit. She never knows what it is, she just sort of clutches her temples like she’s trying to remember if she left the stove on until Picard solves everything.

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>be Troi
>lose your powers
>bitch and moan about it like it's the end of the universe
>get told by virtually everyone to get used to it
>"cool, that means i get your office" t. guinan
Bitch had it coming.

 

[UnKillFill]

Troi is mostly useless because the writers gave her entire function, to be Picard's sounding board, to Guinan.

 

[AnOminous]

She never knows what it is, she just sort of clutches her temples like she’s trying to remember if she left the stove on until Picard solves everything.

Alien: GRAAAAAAAGH I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS I'M GOING TO KILL YOU.
[launches barrage of photon torpedos n sheeeit]
Troi: [massaging temples] I sense. . .hostility.
Picard: Yeah thanks a lot bitch, nice tits, though.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Alien: GRAAAAAAAGH I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS I'M GOING TO KILL YOU.
[launches barrage of photon torpedos n sheeeit]
Troi: [massaging temples] I sense. . .hostility.
Picard: Yeah thanks a lot bitch, nice tits, though.

Her tits weren't even that great.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Her tits weren't even that great.

seriously she was REALLY fucking mid, especially compared to the chicks in TOS

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

seriously she was REALLY fucking mid, especially compared to the chicks in TOS

I never understood her sex appeal. Grilka was sexier.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

I never understood her sex appeal. Grilka was sexier.

There should have been a "House of Quark"-sitcom...

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I never understood her sex appeal. Grilka was sexier.

there's some gals who at least fit the aesthetics of the age, like Yar and Crusher
Troi is at best "has a good personality" material but otherwise is really plain, and not even in a cute plain way

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

There should have been a "House of Quark"-sitcom...

Quark deserved his own spin-off in general.

there's some gals who at least fit the aesthetics of the age, like Yar and Crusher
Troi is at best "has a good personality" material but otherwise is really plain, and not even in a cute plain way

This was supposed to be sexy? Gimme a break.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Quark deserved his own spin-off in general.

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This was supposed to be sexy? Gimme a break.

yeah I'll admit my tastes run a lot more browned and round, but I can at least understand some other styles
she's "can sing parts of the Rocky Horror book on command" fun gal okay looking
which, to be fair, I have seen Sirtis plop out a few bars of Time Warp out of nowhere

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

This was supposed to be sexy? Gimme a break.

The late 80s were a weird time... At any rate, Crusher > Troi, and it's not even close.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

yeah I'll admit my tastes run a lot more browned and round, but I can at least understand some other styles
she's "can sing parts of the Rocky Horror book on command" fun gal okay looking
which, to be fair, I have seen Sirtis plop out a few bars of Time Warp out of nowhere

I think Marina Sirtis is a fantastic performer, but she is not attractive to me.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Troi is mostly useless because the writers gave her entire function, to be Picard's sounding board, to Guinan.

Best part was that DS9 made the same mistake, with a holographic jazz singer being a better therapist than the station's counselor.

Her superpower, being "empathic" is also not that useful outside of spotting liars.

Tangent:
Betazoid telepathy in Star Trek is a completely broken superpower that makes no sense. If they had put some thought into limiting it, and explaining how it works in a scientific way, they could've done more with it. Telepathy for Vulcans was done so much smarter.

There should be ways to block it using technology.
We see it work over lightyears, so can you use them as an emergency communication system?
Does it use subspace? It seems instantaneous regardless of range.
Can you reverse engineer that shit to make a long-range subspace transmitter that only needs a few calories to power it?
They probably never invented the telephone.

Betazoid telepathy, or as I like to call it, "We have the Vulcan Mind Meld at home".

I believe there were. Ferengi were supposed to be resistant to empaths because of the way their brains are structured.

To be fair, they were also supposed to be stronger than Klingons too, and look how that turned out.

I don't think Gatwa was masterminded in some TikTok lab. If that were the case, we wouldn’t have Matt "look at me I just did a kilo of cocaine and now I'm doing jazz hands with a sonic screwdriver lodged up me arse" Smith.

I once went on a date with someone who was a huge Whovian and she hated Matt Smith's tenure as the Doctor. Was it really as bad as some people say it was? She also said that they tried to give Doctor Smith a harem or something, so I'm not sure if that's true or if she was just a Tumblrina.

Did you ever notice how often Troi could short-circuit an entire episode because she would have just been able to "sense" what's going on? For instance, in "Conspiracy" where a bunch of high ranking Star Fleet officers are compromised by a parasite... she never detects anything wrong.

Troi is probably one of the most useless telepaths in fiction. I was rewatching that otherwise great episode "Clues" and realized they basically use Troi like a spooky weather vane for plot tension. “Something is... wrong...". Yeah, no shit. She never knows what it is, she just sort of clutches her temples like she’s trying to remember if she left the stove on until Picard solves everything.

Alien: GRAAAAAAAGH I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS I'M GOING TO KILL YOU.
[launches barrage of photon torpedos n sheeeit]
Troi: [massaging temples] I sense. . .hostility.
Picard: Yeah thanks a lot bitch, nice tits, though.

I feel like you're doing a massive disservice to Troi. She's more than an empath. We're talking about the same person who crashed the Enterprise in Generations.

This was supposed to be sexy? Gimme a break

I always thought she looked hotter in her uniform.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Best part was that DS9 made the same mistake, with a holographic jazz singer being a better therapist than the station's counselor.

Oh, it gets better with DS9: the station's shrink is only mentioned in dialogue until S7 (who needs a counselor when you know The Sisko protects?). On that note: making Dax the counselor made sense and it should have happened much earlier than it did.

 

[The Ugly One]

Did you ever notice how often Troi could short-circuit an entire episode because she would have just been able to "sense" what's going on? For instance, in "Conspiracy" where a bunch of high ranking Star Fleet officers are compromised by a parasite... she never detects anything wrong.

In the episode where Data is kidnapped, again, Troi is conveniently not able to sense anything.

The episode where Picard is replaced with a doppelganger (which acts pretty differently from him, for example, drinking with the crew) she senses nothing.

I don't know if the writers forgot she exists or what.

Troi's just a psychic tricorder. Her powers are whatever the writers of the show need them to be for that episode.

 

[Rancid Xylitol]

This was supposed to be sexy? Gimme a break.

Hey man, it was that or the Sears' catalog. It was different times....