Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[WonderWino]

I wonder why people might think that.

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Well, she definitely has the asian tiger mom what the fuck do you mean you got an A- on your report card expression down to a fine art

Ok so this was a prototype holodeck, which was deemed too resource and power hungry (and 'caused some shenanigans) to really be safely used at that point. Still a dumb episode.

I don't know, the zombie klingon shit was pretty high up on the list of most retarded things i've seen nutrek do

 

[Cnut]

Can you even imagine watching Kurtzman trek? just why, sweet black baby Jesus, why oh why.

Ok I did watch Picard season 3 (and posted a lot about it in this thread.) BUT I REGRET IT

 

[Judge Holden]

I wonder why people might think that.

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Oh cmon, she was reasonably purty in the 9.321 femtoseconds of screentime where she was not hissing, snarling, nagging, sneering, or cajoling. Sure she was no Nurse Ogowa but....oh fuck i'm gonna have to rank the Trek Asian chicks next aren't I?

Whatever that can wait until I have my morning coffee. For now I will simply note that Keiko was an inadvertent casualty of DS9 directive 237 which states that Miles O'Brien must be made to suffer at any and all times. Since she was the closest to him, that meant it automatically fell to her to carry out this sacred duty more often than not

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

This was super jarring they straight up copy pasted the TNG holodeck layout. Not sure if that's meant to be a member berry of just straight up laziness or what.
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Edit: Ok so this was a prototype holodeck, which was deemed too resource and power hungry (and 'caused some shenanigans) to really be safely used at that point. Still a dumb episode.

Could they have at least made it more... 70s looking? Like if you're going to shit all over TOS like a jilted girlfriend you may as well make the aesthetics line up a LITTLE.

Or at least make it different from the one from TNG. Make it the size of a bedroom or need the person to walk on a giant gyro-sphere floor. Something.

 

[Judge Holden]

Could they have at least made it more... 70s looking? Like if you're going to shit all over TOS like a jilted girlfriend you may as well make the aesthetics line up a LITTLE.

Or at least make it different from the one from TNG. Make it the size of a bedroom or need the person to walk on a giant gyro-sphere floor. Something.

Took me two seconds to come up with an appropriately 60s/70s esque proto-holodeck concept.

Giant walk-in disco ball set in a larger room which visually looks obscenely overdesigned and energy draining for what it is and thus justifies the concept being mothballed for the next century with barely any exposition needed. Think a somewhat less ominous take on the engine room from Event Horizon with the bright colors and general aesthetics of a 1968 West Berlin Discothèque

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

It just saddens me that the only shows that had any reverence towards TOS and didn't fuck with it's aesthetics when it was shown was pre-ENT. DS9 and TNG had no shame about it.

Not everything needs to look like JJ Trek. The 1960s look is not an inherently bad thing. Shit make things more subdued and muted like the Cage if that's the era we're supposed to be in.

 

[Judge Holden]

It just saddens me that the only shows that had any reverence towards TOS and didn't fuck with it's aesthetics when it was shown was DS9 and TNG.

ENT too with its mirror universe episode set on the ship that got shunted out of the main universe during The Tholian Web back in TOS. Didn't try to retcon its aesthetic or design to bring it away from old timey 60s sci fi, just showed it as is with all the mirror universe assholes remarking on how crazy advanced it all was compared to their Stargate lookin ship and tech without the slightest snark or winking at the camera

 

[Miller]

This was super jarring they straight up copy pasted the TNG holodeck layout. Not sure if that's meant to be a member berry of just straight up laziness or what.
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Edit: Ok so this was a prototype holodeck, which was deemed too resource and power hungry (and 'caused some shenanigans) to really be safely used at that point. Still a dumb episode.

Somehow, 100 years later the final version of the holodeck looks exactly like the prototype...

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Somehow, 100 years later the final version of the holodeck looks exactly like the prototype...

Didn't ST: The Animated Series introduce a prototype holodeck called a "recreation room" at some point?

 

[Miller]

Didn't ST: The Animated Series introduce a prototype holodeck called a "recreation room" at some point?

Indeed. Nitpicking Nerd brought it up in his review:

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Oh cmon, she was reasonably purty in the 9.321 femtoseconds of screentime where she was not hissing, snarling, nagging, sneering, or cajoling. Sure she was no Nurse Ogowa but....oh fuck i'm gonna have to rank the Trek Asian chicks next aren't I?

dibs on Yeoman Tamura

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I didn't think Keiko was that much of a nag. O'Brien wanted to have a whole room dedicated to his scale model of the Alamo. Space is at a premium on a station.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

I didn't think Keiko was that much of a nag. O'Brien wanted to have a whole room dedicated to his scale model of the Alamo. Space is at a premium on a station.

The Hero of Setlik III can have as many models as he wants in his mancave.

 

[Flexo]

Whatever that can wait until I have my morning coffee. For now I will simply note that Keiko was an inadvertent casualty of DS9 directive 237 which states that Miles O'Brien must be made to suffer at any and all times. Since she was the closest to him, that meant it automatically fell to her to carry out this sacred duty more often than not

When she got possessed, who do you think suffered more? Her or the demon?

Nah but for real, for all they made O'Brian suffer, I do respect they never broke up his marriage.

And she could have her moments.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NCi73_WhpqM?si=OWCHE22DEkyWI0hB

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

And she could have her moments.

There was the time O'Brien and Bashir almost got killed by psycho indies ("Armageddon Game") and it was Keiko who realized something was off. She sacrificed her career so Miles could become Chief of Operations - all while never putting up with any shit. As far as I'm concerned, she was a pretty based wife.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Alien women threw themselves at O'Brian enough times without him cracking that it's safe to bet Keiko wasn't all bad.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

There was the time O'Brien and Bashir almost got killed by psycho indies ("Armageddon Game") and it was Keiko who realized something was off. She sacrificed her career so Miles could become Chief of Operations - all while never putting up with any shit. As far as I'm concerned, she was a pretty based wife.

She was also totally wrong. He normally drank space coffee that late in the day she just didn't know

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

She was also totally wrong. He normally drank space coffee that late in the day she just didn't know

The fact that she said anything at all saved O'Brien and Bashir.

 

[Flexo]

She was also totally wrong. He normally drank space coffee that late in the day she just didn't know

No she was right, but for the wrong reasons. (One of my favorite writing tropes.)

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Lwaxana is the superior Betazoid. I always loved how she could throw Picard off his stride even more than Q.

She's probably a fricking steamroller in the bedroom. And if you survive that you're ruined for other women.