Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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gaysexenjoyer said:
Well yeah of course, I'm just saying the difference must be explained by something. WW3 obviously wasn't the deciding factor, given prime Cochrane's biggest moral failing was pissing outside and being kinda selfish.


Though the idea that Prime Cochrane also had the shotgun and he just decided not to use it is extremely funny.
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I actually preferred Shatner's explanation that it was the Borg mucking about with time that convinced the humans and vulcans to militarize.

Fun to think about too Borg and Dominion in the mirror universe.
 
Flexo said:
I actually preferred Shatner's explanation that it was the Borg mucking about with time that convinced the humans and vulcans to militarize.

Fun to think about too Borg and Dominion in the mirror universe.
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Mirror Borg in one of the novels have a Borg King and assimilate Soong or smth. I could write better Mirror Universe fanfiction than that.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
*sigh* Yes.

The episode "Vaulting Ambition" in STD established that Terrans have different light sensitivity compared to their Earth counterparts. Why I have no fucking clue.
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Maybe Alex Kurtzman just really loves K-PAX.8)

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And then some intern was like, “Do we have to keep the vampire thing consistent?” And Kurtzman was like, “No, shut up" and by the next season they had forgotten all about it.
 
Flexo said:
Roddenberry needed to loosen up just a little, but he did have the right idea to push the writers to think deeper, and broader. What's interesting is that the makers of DS9 at least carried this idea and regularly pushed themselves into challenges (like turning a single episode they had planned into a 2-parter). What makes Voyager so disappointing is that for all the set up they had to challenge themselves, they ultimately played it safe. By that point they had turned Roddenberry's box not into a challenge to push themselves, but a comforting blanket to wallow in.
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The biggest example being the Maquis. They created that plot for VOY and then the writers hit the reset button after the pilot and they were all friends to the point of Janeway giving the XO role to one of the members of the Maquis.

Commissar Fuklaw said:
Didn't they recently introduce some bullshit about Terrans being genetically different?
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...and then did nothing with it once they got rid of Lorca.

Chunky Salsa said:
The idea that Female Ming the Merciless can be redeemed after doing this like this:
Is genuinely insane. She glassed an entire hemisphere of a planet as a casual move. Also, the negress actress playing the MC is bad. She watched an entire planet die and she looks like she's just been cut up in traffic or something.
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It's because [current year] writers have no notion of good vs evil. To them everything is grey and villain characters can be redeemed if they are part of the protected group or if they are male, the subject of the shippers.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only person who noticed how awful the sets are.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I'm glad I'm not the only person who noticed how awful the sets are.
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They are also way too shiny and they don't look like a place where people live and work 24/7. Every room is like a mix of Apple Store and surgery room.
DS9 (with the Defiant), VOY and ENT had the perfect lighting, not too bright, not too dark, enough to look like a proper working environment.
 
You know, I like the older bridge designs, but what is it with having the various flavors of steps on a fucking bridge? Like, don't they know people can and will fall to their deaths if the ship's slightly bumped? That said, Defiant > rest, regardless of the flaws the ship has in other departments.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
You know, I like the older bridge designs, but what is it with having the various flavors of steps on a fucking bridge? Like, don't they know people can and will fall to their deaths if the ship's slightly bumped? That said, Defiant > rest, regardless of the flaws the ship has in other departments.
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It's how you get everyone in the shot without camera fuckery: different actors sitting at different levels.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
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You’re right about Nu Trek being shot in a coal mine, but Voyager might have committed that sin first. I swear to God that ship spent more time at red alert than at condition green.

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I get the in-universe “resource conservation” excuse, but it’s not like they were ever actually running out of food or weapons. The lights going dark once an episode was just their way of duping the audience into thinking every plot was as high-stakes as “Yesterday’s Enterprise."

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Curzon Dax-sama said:
You know, I like the older bridge designs, but what is it with having the various flavors of steps on a fucking bridge? Like, don't they know people can and will fall to their deaths if the ship's slightly bumped? That said, Defiant > rest, regardless of the flaws the ship has in other departments.
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It's like the whole concept you're in a ship in space and every episode, or almost every episode, shit gets shot at you that rocks the ship back and forth and knocks everyone all over the place, but nobody has anything at all to protect them from that. What the fuck? Are seat belts a lost technology in the future in SPAAAAAAACE?

The whole idea of using restraints to prevent getting turned into jelly from collisions just disappeared from human knowledge?

Somehow nobody just dies from their skull getting shattered as they hit the hull head first.
 
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