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TaimuRadiu said:
If only. It's still 4:3, they just remastered everything.

Considering how much Hollywood kind of hates JMS I'm surprised Warner Bros Discovery paid for it, I guess it was just in the early days when HBO Max was a thing they really wanted to push off the ground.
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oh okay I thought it was like, they took they fx shots that had initially been finished in 4:3, then were cropped to wide for dvds, were then ADDITIONALLY cropped to 4:3
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
oh okay I thought it was like, they took they fx shots that had initially been finished in 4:3, then were cropped to wide for dvds, were then ADDITIONALLY cropped to 4:3
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They were originally shot in widescreen, then cropped to 4:3. They may have been in full 16:9 HD for the transmissions via NHK BS Hi-Vision (HD analog system). The point is the entire dvd set was enshittified to widescreen because the widescreen shots for SFX were the ones that were deemed to matter and those were remastered.

JMS has gone on and on about it at times about how shitty the DVD sets were.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
TNG Technical Manual said it was dolphins, other sources have stated that it's a reference to Star Trek IV. Whales didn't survive but dolphins did, I guess? At any rate the whale species may be a reference, but Cetacean Ops in general was meant to be a nod to ST4.
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Or, as was stated in the movie, "specifically, humpbacked whales".
 
AnOminous said:
I like how Barclay used the holodeck to goon to his fellow crew
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In TNG you weren’t supposed to use the holodeck for anything fun. You had to cosplay as Sherlock Holmes or stand around quoting Shakespeare. Keep it classy. Then VOY shows up and Tom's mainlining holographic sluts like a Civil War reenactor who never leaves the campsite. And instead of anyone pulling him aside for a psychiatric evaluation, the whole cast joins in.

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Captain Syrup said:
In TNG you weren’t supposed to use the holodeck for anything fun. You had to cosplay as Sherlock Holmes or stand around quoting Shakespeare. Keep it classy. Then VOY shows up and Tom's mainlining holographic sluts like a Civil War reenactor who never leaves the campsite. And instead of anyone pulling him aside for a psychiatric evaluation, the whole cast joins in.

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It's a given that either it wasn't taboo to use the holodeck for sexual activity, or there was a specific prohibition against it - at least on starships or Starfleet installations.

In fact, even if it wasn't taboo, there were probably rules.
 
Captain Syrup said:
In TNG you weren’t supposed to use the holodeck for anything fun. You had to cosplay as Sherlock Holmes or stand around quoting Shakespeare. Keep it classy. Then VOY shows up and Tom's mainlining holographic sluts like a Civil War reenactor who never leaves the campsite. And instead of anyone pulling him aside for a psychiatric evaluation, the whole cast joins in.

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Janeway editing a holodeck character seemed so futuristic in 1997 but today it's no different than editing a character card you use with your locally running LLM. "Computer: Increase temperature to 1.15 and frequency penalty to 0.2. Remove all references to incest and futanari cocks. Age the character up to 19 and replace all mentions of high school to college. Increase height to average height of women in Japan in 2024, increase cup size from A to C. Apply changes and begin program." Sagan was so wrong. This is the future waiting for us in the stars. Not a galaxy rise, but endless coomer holographic programs.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Janeway editing a holodeck character seemed so futuristic in 1997 but today it's no different than editing a character card you use with your locally running LLM. "Computer: Increase temperature to 1.15 and frequency penalty to 0.2. Remove all references to incest and futanari cocks. Age the character up to 19 and replace all mentions of high school to college. Increase height to average height of women in Japan in 2024, increase cup size from A to C. Apply changes and begin program." Sagan was so wrong. This is the future waiting for us in the stars. Not a galaxy rise, but endless coomer holographic programs.
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The fundamental error made by liberal intellectuals of the Cold War era is that they worried about 1984 becoming a reality when Brave New World was happening right under their noses.
 
Uncle Buck said:
It's a given that either it wasn't taboo to use the holodeck for sexual activity, or there was a specific prohibition against it - at least on starships or Starfleet installations.

In fact, even if it wasn't taboo, there were probably rules.
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I like to think that every cadet and enlistee was required to jizzmop the holodecks at Starfleet Headquarters for a semester to reinforce just why we don't fuck the photons.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
Whales didn't survive but dolphins did, I guess?
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In Lower Decks the two whales in Cetacean Ops are belugas, which funnily enough are toothed whales but not dolphins

I guess that means Starfleet employs multiple whale species because the technical manual does specifically say dolphins for the Enterprise-D
 
TaimuRadiu said:
I vaguely remember dolphins showing up in LD at one point.
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SeaQuest had that retarded dolphin mascot. They had a submarine-sized hamster tube system for Darwin so he could zip around the ship. The second they wrote out Roy Scheider, they brought in Michael Ironside as Captain Hardass, and his first decree was basically, “Get Flipper off my fucking boat."
 
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PyramidBox said:
Anybody here have recommendations for TNG era books that are just like an episode of the show in book form? Everybody seems to recommend Peter David's stuff, but I really could not get into his writing. Tried Imzadi and it just felt kind of "off," I don't know why. Synopses from other books from different authors usually come off as like "Data must reckon with a traitor from his past in order to save the galaxy from the Tablosians" or whatever and I can't get into that either.
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Autism trigger!

Look I have a bunch of books I can just mail to you if you want. Otherwise...

Anything by Michael Jan Friedman was always a fave. Definitely recommend his Kahless book. But if you go to a store and look at Trek books on the shelves, you'll see that there's some that are "numbered" and some that are not. (I can send pic later) The numbered books are almost literally episodes. Some of them are, in fact, novelizations of episodes. The non numbered ones were more "prestiege" and "big" books - often first done in hard covers before sent to paperback. I read a LOT of the TNG ones. (I used to have a large Voyager numbered collection as I was trying to read it complete.)

Click :like: if you'd like to know more. (I have to go get drunk soon so the additional info would be after I stagger back to my closet.)
 
Flexo said:
Anything by Michael Jan Friedman was always a fave
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Alright, cool. I was actually just reading the synopses of his books and was already thinking they sounded like what I was looking for. I've just seen every TNG episode at least five or six times and I crave more.

Please drunkenly give additional info at your leisure
 
If we're talking books here are some good ones:

TOS
Spock's World
Spock Must Die!
How Much For Just The Planet
Just read The Romulan Way series. Diane Duane made the Romulans.

TNG
Imzadi
I can't find the name of it, but it was set on Rape Planet and was about Tasha

There were a series of novelizations of the animated series I absolutely loved as a teen, Log series.

Read William Shatner's books. He was *helped* by the Reeves-Stevenses. Basically it's about the continuing adventures of Captain Kirk after Generations.

Before Dishonor in order to find out how over the top wtf the Novelverse can be.

A Stitch In Time was Andrew Robinson's notes on Garak, framed as letters to Bashir from Cardassia after the war IIRC.

There was also a series of Enterprise books that basically outlined what the Earth-Romulan War arc was going to be like. OK and worth reading if you want more Enterprise.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
I vaguely remember dolphins showing up in LD at one point.
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I am just thinking about the Dolphin Hannibal Lecter from NTFS:SD:SUV. A show which I am the only person who ever watched.

SeaQuest is a show I vaguely have fond memories of, but barely remember and probably only watched a handful of episodes when it was on. or maybe I watched all of it. I remember the dolphin. The only episodes I can remember is a Mars mission capsule sinking or something. Then a terrorist attack on a giant CO2 scrubber to combat climate change.
 
Screamer_2 said:
I am just thinking about the Dolphin Hannibal Lecter from NTFS:SD:SUV. A show which I am the only person who ever watched.

SeaQuest is a show I vaguely have fond memories of, but barely remember and probably only watched a handful of episodes when it was on. or maybe I watched all of it. I remember the dolphin. The only episodes I can remember is a Mars mission capsule sinking or something.
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Watched SeaQuest as a kid, start to finish, and the only episode my brain remembers is the one where Tim Russ decides he’s gonna hack the “World Bank” which is literally an underwater bank? That’s the first time I ever heard the phrase World Bank.

Roy Scheider shows up for like fifteen seconds in the third season, Jonathan Brandis and his dolphin sidekick get booted, too (for budget reasons?)

In steps Ironside, whom I now appreciate as a savior of mid-budget sci-fi; but as a kid, it was like trading out your fun TV dad for the mean stepdad.:(
Then a terrorist attack on a giant CO2 scrubber to combat climate change.
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Ah yes... the villain dies because he thinks he can just dip down to the ocean floor, and the water pressure pops his little submarine like a grape.
TaimuRadiu said:
If only. It's still 4:3, they just remastered everything.

Considering how much Hollywood kind of hates JMS I'm surprised Warner Bros Discovery paid for it, I guess it was just in the early days when HBO Max was a thing they really wanted to push off the ground.
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I’m not sure "Hollywood" hates JMS, but he had a long running beef with WB over how they handled his Babylon 5 spin-off... It’s funny, because Ted Turner was handing free reign to a bunch of dad-shorts-wearing rednecks running WCW, yet JMS somehow felt more free before moving to TNT. From what I can recall, they were siphoning resources away to multiple networks at once, so the spin-off show amounted to a rugpull.
 
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