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Worf turning into a venom spitting monster was actually sick. That’s the episode I wanna see.
I loved this episode growing up. A young impressionable child watching TNG regularly after school and tuning in for as close to a straight up horror episode as we'll ever get in the series (IMO). Barkley-spider jump scare traumatised me.
 
I get it... "Meme language, ahead of it's time." but... Memes are language shorthand. They only work if there is a longer language to work off of. What the fuck does "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" even mean unless you have words for "and" and "at"?
Yeah. And later we see the captain writing in his journal so it's obviously a functional language.

I mean I literally had it happen not long ago when I was working with a foreign made bot on the factory floor who knows English, but still uses a lot of translating apps. When I said something was "cool" (or maybe it was "neat") he became totally baffled because his translations of that word weren't making any sense. It took us quite awhile before I realized he was translating the slang very literally.

You see it also nicely in this bit from major league 2.

Dunno if my random TNG commentary is appreciated or not. If it is, I'll give more.
Such as...
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I see a hell of a lot more than just 4 lights in this scene...
I'm not actually at that episode yet, it was just on my mind.
Now that's the kind of autism I come to this thread for you beautiful fans, you!
 
Watching TNG with my friend again tonight. She asked me about Gowron, namely if he was a good guy or a bad guy. I told her that he was better than the other options, but he's still a fucking politician... so he's kind of a piece of shit. She said, "So he's like Trump?"
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I never thought characters calling Gowron a “politician” was an insult. Half the time he’s antagonistic, sure, but other times he’s basically lobbying on behalf of Picard and Sisko. He’s just operating from a kind of street-smarts, which is why he beat out the Duras clan and wound up Chancellor in the first place.

The problem is once Martok is positioned as a hero, sloppy writer's room panic takes over, Gowron goes full Nancy Pelosi and tanks his own credibility out of paranoia until Worf finally gets sick of it and kills him in a duel.
I get it... "Meme language, ahead of it's time."
ALIEN: “Skibidi Toilet… at Sigma Ohio”
WORF: “This is dishonorable. Speak plainly."
 
Yeah. And later we see the captain writing in his journal so it's obviously a functional language.
Yeah, there must be a way to ask for a 3.5 mm screw or say you should preheat your oven to 300 degrees. Seems like it would've been a lot less work for that alien to stop talking like a meme-loving autist for five minutes than expecting Picard to do the equivalent of learning every reference in the whole CWC wiki.
 
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I never thought characters calling Gowron a “politician” was an insult. Half the time he’s antagonistic, sure, but other times he’s basically lobbying on behalf of Picard and Sisko. He’s just operating from a kind of street-smarts, which is why he beat out the Duras clan and wound up Chancellor in the first place.

The problem is once Martok is positioned as a hero, sloppy writer's room panic takes over, Gowron goes full Nancy Pelosi and tanks his own credibility out of paranoia until Worf finally gets sick of it and kills him in a duel.

ALIEN: “Skibidi Toilet… at Sigma Ohio”
WORF: “This is dishonorable. Speak plainly."
Well, that and Worf putting a sword into Duras' chest.
 
Yeah, there must be a way to ask for a 3.5 mm screw or say you should preheat your oven to 300 degrees. Seems like it would've been a lot less work for that alien to stop talking like a meme-loving autist for five minutes than expecting Picard to do the equivalent of learning every reference in the whole CWC wiki.
But that's where it's interesting with the universal translator. Because... how?

No think about it a moment. If you're talking woth another person who doesn't speak your language, you two can work out some words in common then go from there. If something doesn't make sense, you can at least figure out where the problem is.

Now imagine something like Google translate was doing all the work instead. The person says something to you and google spits out complete gibberish. So what are you supposed to do? You have no idea or concept of what they are hearing. In theory you could ask for a 35mm self-sealing stem bolt and the translator could be telling them "blue monkey dishwasher."

It is kind of funny to go watch DS9 and see how often the main cast will make some kind of earth idiom that should make no sense to the aliens around them.
 
No no no no no...
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Captain Kirk, Boldly Going | Illustration by Josh Newton

Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of Magic: The Gathering. It’s 30-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before. Well, um, until now, when it’s time to boldly go where other IPs have gone before in Universes Beyond!

Clearly there will be more MTG fan unease at yet another non-fantasy UB product, but for the Star Trek faithful, who bought the soon-doomed Star Trek TCG in 1994, this is a long time dream fulfilled.

As Captain Kirk says at the end of The Wrath of Khan: “There are always… possibilities.” What should we expect? Here’s what we know, coupled with a bit of reasoned speculation (and isn't that a reasonable definition of science fiction anyway?).

About the Set: The Story​

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Crystalline Entity | Illustration by David Alvarez

There’s 60 years of story to pull from, as Star Trek (commonly referred to as “The Original Series” or TOS in Trek fandom), premiered in September 1966. There have been various sequels, remakes, and reboots over the years, with novels, video games, board games, and toys. Of course, there’s also Star Trek conventions dating back to 1972, which arguably set up modern fandom for what it is today. You can consult Camille Bacon-Smith’s 1992 study, Enterprising Women, a book-length ethnography which helped to kickstart fan studies as an academic pursuit, if you’d like to trace the origins of TV-focused fanzines and fanfiction as we think of it today. I got my PhD studying this stuff, so if you want to toss some comments below or on the Draftsim Discord, I can go deep on this stuff.

That said, the preview video gives us some clues as to how the set might limit the story. Perhaps.

The first sight in the video is of the TOS Enterprise. The nacelle’s design has the kind of spinning color on the front tips that they used in the 1960s series, which is different from the newer designed version of that era’s ship in recent spinoffs, Star Trek: Discovery and Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.

The next sight is Captain Kirk on the original bridge played by original actor, William Shatner. There are no designs so far that look like the aesthetic shift of the sequel films for that series.


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All well and good, but the third image is of the Crystalline Entity, a key part of Data’s origin story in Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG), the sequel or sorts that premiered in 1987. That’s kind of a deep cut, and it’s followed by another, Klingon Chancellor Gowron, also from TNG, and then that show’s Enterprise as the final piece of art.

They could have more easily showed things like Patrick Stewart’s Captain Picard, or Data himself, and that likely would provide a bit more pop of recognition for folks with only a passing familiarity of Trek. The choice seems to indicate some pretty deep story detail from TNG. Given that TNG comes like 70 years after TOS in the Trek timeline, my prediction for the set is that it includes Star Trek’s classic trope, time travel, which undergirded so many episodes and films.

Perhaps we’ll see an original, abandoned concept for 1994’s Generations film, which united Kirk and Picard, which was to see the two ships locked in combat. We nerds can dream.

Star Trek Mechanics​

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Warp Speed | Illustration by Raymond Swanland

We don’t know anything yet, but Edge of Eternities gives us some possibilities. Star Trek is about spacecraft which get to where they’re going at warp speed, so we already have some mechanics to draw from, although warping is different in the universes of each set.

If the set is going to need to use time travel of some kind to build a coherent story, we might see some of the ways the Doctor Who cards did that, including using older mechanics like suspend.

In terms of the Trek universe, there are a lot of things on fans’ wish lists, but the only thing that seems like a must-have is the transporter, which gives us the “Beam Me Up, Scotty” line that has percolated into everyday life.

Structurally, there will have to be legends, as there are in so many UB sets, to represent the main characters. We have villains and robots as creature types in MTG now, and given that Starfleet officers don’t consider themselves soldiers, I imagine some kind of “officer” might be incoming.

My wild guess is that we’ll have a tribble. This seems like a perfect blend of a goofy part of Trek and Magic mechanics, as these pests multiply rapidly. I can see either tokens or a Squadron Hawk sort of thing.

Speculation​

I’d have expected, like they did with the Lord of the Rings set, that they would focus on one time period, which would allow Magic to follow up with later Trek properties, just like the MTG release of The Hobbit follows LTR years later. If the set (ahem) takes off, TNG is always waiting. Perhaps there’s some concern about the depth of interest in Trek across multiple sets? Perhaps the rights situation is precarious? Perhaps we’ll get another space set in Universes Beyond in the future, so Trek will be a one off (Star Wars, anyone?).

I’d anticipate, like they did with Doctor Who, that there will be Commander decks focused in eras. I could see one set in the maroon-uniformed era of the 1980s films, one in the expanded sequels universe of TNG in Voyager and Deep Space Nine, and one in the contemporary TV era of Discovery and Strange New Worlds if they’re going to blast through the entirety of the IP in one release. But it’s also possible that Wizards will abandon story entirely, Final Fantasy style, and just give us the greatest hits from the expansive history, no story at all. But Star Trek fans are more similar to Doctor Who fans, and there’s no coherent overall universe to Final Fantasy anyway, so I predict the Who treatment.
 
It is kind of funny to go watch DS9 and see how often the main cast will make some kind of earth idiom that should make no sense to the aliens around them.
Yeah, there's one bit in DS9 that's exactly that.
When Jake and Nog have to leave the station. Nog tries to say "Coup D'etat" and he can't and Jake has to say it for him. "It's French."

What? Nog would be simply using the ferengi term for coup d'etat. Why would he be trying to say the English term for it? It makes no sense. The writer just wrote that line completely ignoring that they're both supposed to be talking their own language.

But yeah the universal translator is something we just have to handwave away and I'm fine with it. The alternative is doing it like Star Wars where half the characters are speaking in made up gibberish language with subtitles and I hate that so fucking much. (I don't hate subtitles, I watch a lot of foreign content. The difference is foreign languages are still acting and emoting in their own language and that comes through. But when somebody is just reading completely made up gibberish they're not acting or emoting they're trying to memorize nonsense. I hate it. I'll accept the universal translator, and aliens that all look like humans with stuff glued to their faces because at the end of the day, I want to see actors act, I don't wanna see a CGI character talk gibberish.
 
Yeah, there's one bit in DS9 that's exactly that.
When Jake and Nog have to leave the station. Nog tries to say "Coup D'etat" and he can't and Jake has to say it for him. "It's French."

What? Nog would be simply using the ferengi term for coup d'etat. Why would he be trying to say the English term for it? It makes no sense. The writer just wrote that line completely ignoring that they're both supposed to be talking their own language.
Also, apparently French is an obscure language by the 24th century.
 
do you think they will ever return to doing normal star trek shows, in the normal timeline like after ds9, we're gonna check out what happened after the dominion wars and now we got da wormhole and we explorin the final frontier in the gamma quadrant? i sometimes think about the episode where riker was on the klingon ship because they were doing some kind of friendship training exchange and a female klingon talked shit to him about not liking the bloodworms and maybe he wanted titty milk instead, he should have called her on her bullshit right there and said yes and made her pull out her titties and start sucking on them in front of everyone. i came up with a masterclass thesis in a dream i had about how that female jem hadar in that commercial is the ultimate globo homo icon and works so well that it traverses the entire spectrum until it wraps back around and becomes incredibly based but i forgot how it all came together when i woke up.
 
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