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She was hired to do a job and she did it, under the supervision of Geordi. We don't know the exact details because she's a minor character, but if she was sent to the Enterprise, she wasn't bad. Being anxious ain't the same as being bad at your job. E.g. Barclay, who was a good engineer.
 
But something that's even more futuristic than the future, feels like magic, as if it's there because it looks cool without any consideration for how it can be possible. I mean, why not invisible nacelles?
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This is why everyone chimped out about those stupid portable transporters on STD. Harry Potter can get away with conjuring whatever spells he needs, but even the HP universe has rules. If you keep stretching the boundary of what the technology can do, Starfleet should never be in danger. Why are they still carrying phasers when they have guitar picks that can yeet Klingons across the galaxy?
 
It's the lack of etiquette. Kurtzman Trek has no sense of etiquette. There's a time and a place for the emotions, but once a character is on duty they have more important things to care about than their pronouns or someone else's nails (yes, this happened in STD).
See the difference between this scene from TNG:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vdiQhMPt1Zo
and STD:
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(that said, a better comparison would be with the scene from the tribble Short Trek)
This is a terrible attempt to copy Ensign Gomez scene. And you can tell how bad they understand how human formal interaction works. Gomez just didn't start to babble at Picard, she did because she accidentally threw her drink at her and tried to apologized. If that hadn't happened, she wouldn't have talked to him at all.

And it also shows they just can't write jokes.

"Hi, I'm Sylvia Tilly, I'm new the new addition."
"Hi"
*does the hand scan*
"You.. you have beautiful bed nails... oh, erm... sir."
"Thanks"
"You're welcome... sir"

THERE. There you end the joke.
 
At the very least, they should be able to fit through the hatch.
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Captain, we’ve isolated the blockage in the Jefferies Tube.
Yes, and that shit sucked in a setting with already established design rules.
Was Tron ever cool? I haven't seen any of the movies. It looks incomprehensible and loaded with lore no one asked for.
 
Was Tron ever cool? I haven't seen any of the movies. It looks incomprehensible and loaded with lore no one asked for.
Not really. It was a computer isekai at a time home computers were very rare, and that's about all it has going for it besides nifty death-Frisbee fights and motorcycles designed by Syd Mead.

The Tron 2.0 game is pretty fun, though, if shooters are your thing.
 
It's the lack of etiquette. Kurtzman Trek has no sense of etiquette. There's a time and a place for the emotions, but once a character is on duty they have more important things to care about than their pronouns or someone else's nails (yes, this happened in STD).
See the difference between this scene from TNG:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vdiQhMPt1Zo
and STD:
STD - Tilly about Pike's nails.webm
(that said, a better comparison would be with the scene from the tribble Short Trek)
This is something I feel is straight up missing from so much sci-fi media now; just competent, well-trained people being professional. Too many stories in sci-fi settings these days, across various mediums feature crews of professional scientists, space explorers and military personnel who all speak to each other like characters from a Millennial sitcom about their feelings and cracking "that just happened!" style quips. Plus emotional moments on the bridge where supposed professionals start cry-whispering for no reason.
 
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Was Tron ever cool? I haven't seen any of the movies. It looks incomprehensible and loaded with lore no one asked for.
As a child in the 80's, the original film seemed pretty cool at the time. Tron was an early 80's Disney movie with a story aimed at children. It's a fantasy universe with 8-bit computer terminology replacing traditional names for heroes, villains, wizards, and locations. I still think it's a fun, if dumb, watch.

There's really no lore to the original movie aside from the basic plot and character info which is explained in the movie itself. Evil corporate AI sucks The Dude into its "Grid", a virtual world where programs are people, and Human users are the gods. The first sequel is just a follow-on from that 30 years later with better effects. The games and cartoons added story, but not a lot of lore. From the limited bits I've seen of the third movie, it doesn't look good.

However, the VFX were aimed to impress the adults, and were considered impressively weird at the time. With bizarre color gradient effects and the integration of early CGI effects, it was unique at a time when stop-motion animation (the Harry Hamlin Clash of the Titans was released the year before), matte paintings, and miniature effects were the standard.

These effects were different, but didn't age very well compared with the stuff Star Wars was producing. On topic, it compare unfavorably to what the Star Trek films were doing at the same time (Star Trek II was released the same year as Tron).

The first sequel was an equally weak fantasy story, but, although the effects were much more impressive CGI, they lacked some of the original's charm. It's the only movie where I've found Olivia Wilde remotely attractive looking, though, and I still kind of like it.

Most notable from all three movies is the soundtracks. The Walter/Wendy Carlos soundtrack (Carlos was a talented classical musician and OG tranny) from the first movie was pretty influential in 80's electronica. The Daft Punk soundtrack from the sequel was very popular, and universally considered the best part of the movie. The Nine Inch Nails soundtrack is the only thing I'm familiar with from the third movie, and I found it generally underwhelming, but then I'm not a huge fan of Reznor's soundtracks in general.
 
This is something I feel is straight up missing from so much sci-fi media now; just competent, well-trained people being professional. Too many stories in sci-fi settings these days, across various mediums feature crews of professional scientists, space explorers and military personnel who all speak to each other like characters from a Millennial sitcom about their feelings and cracking "that just happened!" style quips. Plus emotional moments on the bridge where supposed professionals start cry-whispering for no reason.
I personally blame this on the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Yes, they're all great, but so many modern sci-fi properties are taking notes from the films when the whole point was that the Guardians weren't a professional team of explorers like the crew of the Enterprise.
 
Aye, that's when she started wearing this blue frock over her uniform. It was designed to hide her belly.

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Roxanne got a similar jacket when she got pregnant:

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Shit doesnt always work out.

Katy Segal from married with children had her pregnancy incorporated into the story of the show, only to end up having a miscarriage.

Just ignoring it like it isn't happening like with bleanna is probably the what route.
 
Not really. It was a computer isekai at a time home computers were very rare, and that's about all it has going for it besides nifty death-Frisbee fights and motorcycles designed by Syd Mead.

The Tron 2.0 game is pretty fun, though, if shooters are your thing.
Moebius worked on the people designs, too
but yeah nah, as somebody who liked Tron in the 80s on videodisc and struggled to get any of the toys as a kid, Tron was a cult classic for a reason
Shit doesnt always work out.

Katy Segal from married with children had her pregnancy incorporated into the story of the show, only to end up having a miscarriage.

Just ignoring it like it isn't happening like with bleanna is probably the what route.
yeah later she just left town for reasons
 
Was Tron ever cool? I haven't seen any of the movies. It looks incomprehensible and loaded with lore no one asked for.

I was born after Tron. As a fan of film I found it at some point in the 2000s and enjoyed it. It's a weird and quirky artifact. I recently bought it on 4k restored bluray but haven't watched it yet.

I would say the look and sound of the newer Tron films is definitely cool. Even though they haven't been big successes, they are still undoubtedly cool. Both the newer films are actually pretty decent, but not great. They totally fucked up though by not making the most recent film a direct sequel to the previous film.
 
I personally blame this on the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Yes, they're all great, but so many modern sci-fi properties are taking notes from the films when the whole point was that the Guardians weren't a professional team of explorers like the crew of the Enterprise.
The irony of the guardiansofthegalaxification of sci-fi and related media is that the Guardians don't act like this.


They do sound and act like a professional team of, in this case, galactic guardians. IICR, Peter was originally an astronaut. That's some discipline right there.
 
I was born after Tron. As a fan of film I found it at some point in the 2000s and enjoyed it. It's a weird and quirky artifact. I recently bought it on 4k restored bluray but haven't watched it yet.

I would say the look and sound of the newer Tron films is definitely cool. Even though they haven't been big successes, they are still undoubtedly cool. Both the newer films are actually pretty decent, but not great. They totally fucked up though by not making the most recent film a direct sequel to the previous film.
The only true Tron sequels I feel live up to the original are 2.0 and Tron Uprising.

Legacy is... okay, but looked and sounded sick as fuck, whereas Ares is complete dogshit from the top down with only some cool designs and songs. I don't know why Ares wasn't a straight sequel to Legacy, at least there was some sovl to Sam's story as the Jesus of the Grid.
 
The best Tron Legacy review said (paraphrasing) the first Tron was a surprisingly thoughtful meditation on the relationship between man and his creations. Legacy is a movie about how cool Tron was.

And if you were the right age, it was cool. The Black Hole was boring, Something Wicked This Way Comes was confusing, but Tron was pure Wizard of Oz energy distilled into something for 5 to 8 year old boys alone.
 
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