Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Gimmick Account said:
I wish that everybody who posted on the previous page would get shot with the skeletonification ray from Mars Attacks
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Mars Attacks! fucked me up as a kid. Michael J. Fox gets turned into a glowing skeleton like 20 minutes in.

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400 years later, the ID4 aliens probably improved their technology as well. We might not be as fucked as in the movie because we progressed too, but they progressed more. The severity of the threat would be similar to the borg if they used that time to develop better tools.

And it would take us by surprise because it's canon that our official first contact was during First Contact. If the aliens show up after the Borg attack to Earth, when the federation worked to improve their fleet to make better ships with better armament, then yes, we have a big chance.
 
Been doing my second watchthrough of Enterprise, the first being many years ago. I love this show. Yes some plots are very TNG, but there is a certain charm to this show. Starfleet is small, the NX-01 is often only equal (at best) to other ships if not inferior, and the tech you see on the ship is just so early 2000s sci-fi.

Archer is best dad. Scott Bacula gave 110% to the role. T'pol is the first female Vulcan in a main role, and her actor did her absolute best. Honestly she gets the most character growth throughout the show, her and Trip. Trip is just a good old southern boy that DIES FOR BULLSHIT REASONS. Also Shrann, Shrann the man.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Been doing my second watchthrough of Enterprise, the first being many years ago. I love this show. Yes some plots are very TNG, but there is a certain charm to this show. Starfleet is small, the NX-01 is often only equal (at best) to other ships if not inferior, and the tech you see on the ship is just so early 2000s sci-fi.

Archer is best dad. Scott Bacula gave 110% to the role. T'pol is the first female Vulcan in a main role, and her actor did her absolute best. Honestly she gets the most character growth throughout the show, her and Trip. Trip is just a good old southern boy that DIES FOR BULLSHIT REASONS. Also Shrann, Shrann the man.
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The series ended with Terra Prime and I don't care what you say.

The finale was just bullshit fanfiction made by the holodeck because Geordie got his cock stuck in one of the panels.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
The series ended with Terra Prime and I don't care what you say.

The finale was just bullshit fanfiction made by the holodeck because Geordie got his cock stuck in one of the panels.
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I'm fine with "uhh. shit. remember that seven year plan? we have one episode. everybody pick a cool scene and we'll robotech some shit together"
only thing it did wrong with that limitation was we didn't see Sam leap out after starting the speech
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
The series ended with Terra Prime and I don't care what you say.

The finale was just bullshit fanfiction made by the holodeck because Geordie got his cock stuck in one of the panels.
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I completely agree. Terra Prime was the end, the network pulled the plug though, so we got the bullshit ending instead of the 7 season plan. Right when it was getting spicy too
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
Keep in mind that the giant green fuck you blast that the city-destroyers use is described as a laser by most contemporary sources
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The thing still looks like some kind of plasma thing as actual laser is just a beam of light (and may not even be visible in transit).

Also that city-destroying "primary weapon" thing does take awhile to charge, so they're limited to the "green shit" for attacking faster, and who knows how powerful that is.
 
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I am considering mayhaps giving Enterprise a third chance after I finish my nth rewatch of Voyager. Normally I'd just loop back to TNG and watch that.
I don't watch episodes everyday, but when I want something in the background and I feel like a change from youtube I usually put on an episode of Star Trek. I dunno how many time I've watched the series and I still enjoy it. Let's face it, there's nothing else like it and there will never be.

The only series that kinda gave me that feeling was Marvel Agents of SHIELD, but it quickly turned into big foozle plot of the season and I kinda got disinterested. I know so many people swear by Stargate but I dunno. Anything that's too sci fi I have the same problem which is "Well, this is good, but it's not Star Trek."
 
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
It doesn't look like Star Trek. Plus none of the crew grow on me after watching two seasons.
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It saddens me that they were actually planning on making the aesthetics more Star Trek-y as the series went on. S5 was even going to refit the NX so it looked closer to a Constitution.

As for the crew, I can't help you there. I always liked Archer and Tucker grew on me. It's just a taste thing.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
It saddens me that they were actually planning on making the aesthetics more Star Trek-y as the series went on. S5 was even going to refit the NX so it looked closer to a Constitution.

As for the crew, I can't help you there. I always liked Archer and Tucker grew on me. It's just a taste thing.
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The Akiraprise was a fundamental problem with the series world building. It's just too advanced looking even compared TMP era ships, and it's hard to see how TOS came from this. I do think the Drexler NX refit would have been pretty boss as the crew charged into the Romulan War.

The interior sets worked better for me, looking more like submarines with LCD and touch screens that 1999 saw as futuristic, but not magical like TOS.

I think that, like Voyager before it, the characters and their actors were OK, but the writing really failed them. For the first couple seasons the actors were stuck with pretty garbage dialogue and dumb plots. Remember when Archer let a species go extinct because the writers (through Phlox) didn't understand how evolution works? So many infuriating and deeply stupid moments like that in season 1-3. Aside from Shran, of course, where Combs was perfect in every scene.

Things were so much better in season 4, and the show could have been great if we got the full 7 and the Romulan War and Federation building arc they were building .
 
Phillip Green said:
where Combs was perfect in every scene.
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I mean that's a given. He eats basically every role he plays.

Phillip Green said:
I do think the Drexler NX refit would have been pretty boss as the crew charged into the Romulan War.
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The only thing I will giver JJ/Kurtzman era trek props for is canonizing it, because good lord do I love it. Pulling the plug on ENT right after it finally got it's legs and started down the right path was such a slap in the face.
 
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I do like how the interior looks kinda like what our own space station looked like but just more advanced. The uniforms also looked more like Nasa flight suits. They were really trying to give it that realistic interpretation of the halfway point between current spaceshuttles and Star Trek ships.
 
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
I do like how the interior looks kinda like what our own space station looked like but just more advanced. The uniforms also looked more like Nasa flight suits. They were really trying to give it that realistic interpretation of the halfway point between current spaceshuttles and Star Trek ships.
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I think it had sovl.
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They even had The Cage-style ugly away jackets
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