Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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gaysexenjoyer said:
I dunno, I liked the Shatnerverse novels
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I'm pretty sure his involvement in those was minimal, beyond notes like "Kirk should have a hot half-klingon wife so they can have angry sex" and "I like Frasier, bring him back".

Cnut said:
I bet Guinan's dad was a pretty cool dude.
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Wouldn't be be fun if, by some strange twist of fate and the meddling of the nexus, Guinan's dad turns out to be Curzon Dax?
 
If there's any area that has been affected by the "woke" bias it's been science fiction and one of the most obvious examples of this is what has happened to the Star Trek franchise. The original series was sort of Golden Age science fiction concepts and stories blended with adventure fare, "Wagon Train...to the Stars" and all that.

The current iterations have mutated into series of LGBT/black/women/black women worship festivals that play like Fox's "Glee"-In-Space with the occasional dash of gratuitous violence or needless Jason Bourne-style fight scenes that seem to get shoehorned into a lot of series these days.

It's affected "mainstream" science fiction literature too, these people declared an end to the reign of "stale pale males" and for the past several years the only white male authors of "note" in the mainstream sci-fi lit arena have been mediocrities like John Scalzi. You pick up collections of what are considered the "best" sci-fi stories of the past years, at least post-2016 and it's all "woke", stories written by Afro-Centrist types who seemingly don't understand what sci-fi is, cranking out stories about ancestral spirits and whatnot with the flimsiest "futuristic" set dressing, lots of what is really just "lit fic" sort of set in The Future to count as sci-fi written by women writers who use their stories to lecture people on what the proper political beliefs to have are, written with that sort of prim, bitter, scolding schoolmarmish tone and so on.

One example, I remember picking up this novel to see what sort of science fiction novel wins the coveted "Hugo Award" in recent years and like a lot of modern offerings that become critical darlings, it's amateur sci-fi with the blandest IKEA prose but it plays around with gender and pronoun concepts so DING DING, it was a winner.

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Captain Syrup said:
Picard especially. He’s supposed to be the moral center and now he’s like, “What if I drove a dune buggy and smiled like an asshole?”
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I really don't mind that because the TNG finale set that Picard needed to in fact get more relaxed. That's why he went to play poker with the rest of the crew. The final frontier was the friends we made along the space adventures. After losing his brother and nephew, it makes sense he would try to have more fun and meet a fine lady. It's a pity Picard didn't follow from there and was instead some stupid plot about Romulans and robots.
 
WonderWino said:
Magical Mellanoid.
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>Andorian
>not Code Of Honor guys
ONE FUCKING JOB
gaysexenjoyer said:
According to Bill the original ending of 5 was going to be this huge cool special effect spectacle with firebreathing reanimated rock golems and stuff. He just didn't know how to allocate the funds correctly so they reused a bunch of footage and bad greenscreening to have the God dude shoot Aftereffects lightning out of his eyes and get shot in the face by a Bird of Prey lmao.
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the rock monsters have some test footage and the sequence is mostly in the comic book
 
Commander X said:
One example, I remember picking up this novel to see what sort of science fiction novel wins the coveted "Hugo Award" in recent years and like a lot of modern offerings that become critical darlings, it's amateur sci-fi with the blandest IKEA prose but it plays around with gender and pronoun concepts so DING DING, it was a winner.
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Print is dead. Traditional publishing is dead. It's all smut or political grandstanding written for women by men pretending to be women. I'm actually considering doing that myself, simply to earn some cash on the side.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Print is dead. Traditional publishing is dead. It's all smut or political grandstanding written for women by men pretending to be women. I'm actually considering doing that myself, simply to earn some cash on the side.
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I'm considering that myself too, except I'm a woman so I'd have to pretend I'm an illiterate one.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Print is dead. Traditional publishing is dead. It's all smut or political grandstanding written for women by men pretending to be women. I'm actually considering doing that myself, simply to earn some cash on the side.
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Commander X said:
If there's any area that has been affected by the "woke" bias it's been science fiction and one of the most obvious examples of this is what has happened to the Star Trek franchise. The original series was sort of Golden Age science fiction concepts and stories blended with adventure fare, "Wagon Train...to the Stars" and all that.

The current iterations have mutated into series of LGBT/black/women/black women worship festivals that play like Fox's "Glee"-In-Space with the occasional dash of gratuitous violence or needless Jason Bourne-style fight scenes that seem to get shoehorned into a lot of series these days.

It's affected "mainstream" science fiction literature too, these people declared an end to the reign of "stale pale males" and for the past several years the only white male authors of "note" in the mainstream sci-fi lit arena have been mediocrities like John Scalzi. You pick up collections of what are considered the "best" sci-fi stories of the past years, at least post-2016 and it's all "woke", stories written by Afro-Centrist types who seemingly don't understand what sci-fi is, cranking out stories about ancestral spirits and whatnot with the flimsiest "futuristic" set dressing, lots of what is really just "lit fic" sort of set in The Future to count as sci-fi written by women writers who use their stories to lecture people on what the proper political beliefs to have are, written with that sort of prim, bitter, scolding schoolmarmish tone and so on.

One example, I remember picking up this novel to see what sort of science fiction novel wins the coveted "Hugo Award" in recent years and like a lot of modern offerings that become critical darlings, it's amateur sci-fi with the blandest IKEA prose but it plays around with gender and pronoun concepts so DING DING, it was a winner.

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This is how St. Luke of Simferopol—"St. Luke the Surgeon"—characterized the spirit of scientific discovery:

The very qualities of persistent research — selfless labor, faith in the end result, humility — are, more than anything else, products of religion. While deduction (that is, the method of deducing particular judgments from general ones), so characteristic of a proud mind inclined to subordinate everything to pre-established premises, led science to the sterile rationalism of the seventeenth century, induction (the derivation of a general judgment from a series of particular facts), the humble acceptance of facts as they are, brought about a flourishing of science, leading to discoveries and inventions. This was the shift from rationalism to empiricism under Bacon, who advanced the inductive method and the principle of humble inquiry into nature (nature is conquered by obedience to it).


—Taken from his book "Science and Religion", unpublished during his lifetime (under the Soviets) but released in 2000; copied from this dude's blog.
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In other words, pride suffocates the pioneering spirit by smothering it with an "I've figured it out" attitude that traps people into ossified man-made paradigms, while actual science and invention presuppose prostration in the face of something bigger than yourself—something too big for the human mind to ever comprehend through human methods alone in more than a very limited way.

There's no wonder that comes from humility before the creation in these books. It's all deduction from a very narrow set of man-made principles.
 
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gaysexenjoyer said:
Bones facing his dying father and Kirk's "I NEED my pain." are highlights for me.

5s biggest problem is that it's sandwiched inbetween 4 and 6. Star Trek 4 is an incredibly fun time-travel adventure that hits all the right beats, and 6 is one of the best star trek movies ever made.
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The “I NEED my pain” scene is the best one in ST5FF.

It has become more profound since the movie’s release, with the rise of therapy culture and cults like transgenderism. Common normie wisdom these days is that you should always be happy, and if you aren’t, there’s something wrong that needs to be fixed. Cults prey on this by offering solutions to all of your problems. Kirk has the appropriate mental armor to resist Sybok, and so should all of us.
 
Pluciferous said:
Kirk has the appropriate mental armor to resist Sybok, and so should all of us.
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This is better explored in tng imo. Episodes like The Bonding or The Loss deal with how we need to face pain to grow. The Bonding specifically says that pain helps us to bond (duh) with others. And remember how Riker told Worf he was a coward for trying to kill himself rather than live like a cripple. I'm sure there are more but I can't remember.
 
This should be timestamped because I just learned from Disparu here that Dr Who and Kurtzman Trek had a lot of cross-infection.

It just... it explains so much. I'm going to go hit the suicide booth now. Anyone want to join for the twofer?
 
Flexo said:
This should be timestamped because I just learned from Disparu here that Dr Who and Kurtzman Trek had a lot of cross-infection.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=B64g1r_IbTw:1920
It just... it explains so much. I'm going to go hit the suicide booth now. Anyone want to join for the twofer?
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The chief engineer on Strange New Worlds mentioned in an episode that she spent time with a "doctor" and the Space Babies episode of Doctor Who has the Doctor mention he spent time with Starfleet. If Doctor Who and Kurtzman Trek continued there would have been a crossover episode.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
>Tfw you just wanted to film a cool wedding scene with your old coworkers but then Wil Wheaton walks on set
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It's actually almost an achievement for Wil Wheaton irl to be way more annoying than the most annoying character on TNG that he played.
 
AnOminous said:
It's actually almost an achievement for Wil Wheaton irl to be way more annoying than the most annoying character on TNG that he played.
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I find Wesley, the character overhated because later seasons nerf his OP intelligence. Most of the complaints about him mostly apply to the first season. He definitely does not act that way by season 3.
 
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