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Imagine bothering to make a female Jem'hadar hybrid only to have her be a dyke...
Meanwhile, my dumbass originally thought she was a poorly designed-hybrid Cardassian. In my defense, it'd explain why she's such an insufferable bitch.

It's not unheard of for studios to cancel completed products, especially these days. Seems like a company will weigh the balance of releasing something that would be toxic to the brand (and more importantly the tax write-off) against whatever financial hit they'd take.

However, that relies upon the studio having a modicum for shame and this is Paramount we're talking about...

Maybe whoever buys Paramount will want to save money on expensive flop shows/fix the mess that is modern Star Trek?
 
Imagine if we had like a smooth-headed Klingon in "Broken Bow"? I might’ve been into it.

But they drop the virus bullshit out of nowhere. It’s so late in the series, and the explanation is dumb as shit. Even the ride-or-die ENT fans bailed.

And what’s with Klingons appearing in the pilot, again in season two, and then they're gone until late season 4? It’s like the klingons exist, but also they don’t exist.

They should have been at the table for the Federation stuff, not some Vulcan prick going “yeah humans were gonna turn into klingons eventually so we let florida blow up, idk"

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Did they ever address why the Andorians were founding members of the Federation when they pretty much have always been portrayed as argumentative assholes at odds with everyone else? Was it just because Vulcan joined they had to join too?
 
The thing is, ENT was statistically one of the least-loved Treks. Which means the fans are demented. The fewer of them there are, the louder they get, so you tend to see "Jolene is the best Vulcan since Nimoy" thrown around a lot.
I just like her and Trip together
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My dad grew up watching Star Trek. I recently discovered that Shari Lewis (Patron Saint of Ventriloquism and one of the Saints of children's educational television) wrote an episode?! And Lucille Ball was the one who either greenlit the show, or she pushed for CBS to air it.

I just think that's neat. (BTW the Shari Lewis documentary is fantastic)
 
My dad grew up watching Star Trek. I recently discovered that Shari Lewis (Patron Saint of Ventriloquism and one of the Saints of children's educational television) wrote an episode?! And Lucille Ball was the one who either greenlit the show, or she pushed for CBS to air it.

I just think that's neat. (BTW the Shari Lewis documentary is fantastic)

I had lamb chop on VHS as a little kid. My dogs also love the shit out of the lamb chop squeaky toy.

 
And Lucille Ball was the one who either greenlit the show, or she pushed for CBS to air it.
TOS was filmed on her studio's set. She nearly killed the show actually, her husband was a notorious cheat and thus she hated cheaters. When she found out that Gene had sneaked in his mistress on the show after she wanted her gone (she was Number One in the pilot) she had to be talked down from kicking the whole production out of her studio.
 
It is a great scene but I always thought Nog was being a little unfair to his father.
While Nog is being little unfair to his father, Nog is a little right about him. Rom was willing to accept his lot in life in order to take care of Nog.

"I don't want to end up like him!" I mean the dude's doing his best. He just got married, he joined the Bajoran Militia, he works hard. What more does Nog want?
A better life for his father (and mother) might've had if (newborn) Nog haven't been there. Some children never do fully get over and accept their parents were willing to sacrifice that better life to take care of their families instead.
 
Did they ever address why the Andorians were founding members of the Federation when they pretty much have always been portrayed as argumentative assholes at odds with everyone else? Was it just because Vulcan joined they had to join too?
The purpose of the Federation is to keep the Terrans in, the Klingons out and the Vulcans down.
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Did they ever address why the Andorians were founding members of the Federation when they pretty much have always been portrayed as argumentative assholes at odds with everyone else? Was it just because Vulcan joined they had to join too?
Andorians weren't that bad, they were just a little militaristic and really tired of the knife-ears' centuries of bullshit. They ended up getting along fine with the pinkskins after a couple knife fights sorted things out. For example, during Enterprise Commander Shran starts out as a prick, but ends up being a total hoss after the humans prove they aren't the Vulcan's little lap dogs.

The Tellarites, are harder to explain as founders. Throughout the entirety of Trek canon, their only notable feature, aside from being gross pigmen, is that they're assholes. Their idea of diplomacy is barging onto your ship and immediately shitting up all the toilets.

It's implied in a lot of extended and fan canon that they're not actually violent or militaristic, just rude. They're also supposedly great traders and engineers. Once you get past the exterior, they're supposedly nice enough, but in all incarnations their most polite greeting tends to be flipping you the bird while shouting "fuck your whore mother".

By the end of season 4, Archer and crew were able to bring all three species (Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite) together to form the Coalition of Planets. The Coalition then helped Earth achieve victory during the Earth-Romulus War (which takes place offscreen after the show ends).

It's never been canonically stated that these four species were the only founding members of the Federation, but the series' epilogue does show the Coalition converting into the UFP shortly after the war's end.
 
Things is about the Andorians and Tellarites assholeness, is they're honest about it and who they are in the what you see is what you get. Which fits in well with humans assholeness and temperament. Vulcans stand out with their duplicitous holier-than-thou I'm better than you attitude and assholeness which greatly grates on the other species tolerance of them.

Romulans managed to thread the needle of being likable honest duplicitous cunts without the obvious holier-than-thou I'm better than you attitude of their Vulcan cousins.
 
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TOS was filmed on her studio's set. She nearly killed the show actually, her husband was a notorious cheat and thus she hated cheaters. When she found out that Gene had sneaked in his mistress on the show after she wanted her gone (she was Number One in the pilot) she had to be talked down from kicking the whole production out of her studio.
There are many insane Lucille Ball stories. She was a huge fan of Perfect Strangers, so I don’t know if you can really call her a TV tastemaker.
I don't know how you came to that conclusion, the Cardassians are always the best characters.
Supposedly they needed an adversary for Picard who could actually talk circles around him. You can’t really throw him into a pissing contest with Klingons.

Sadly, most of the Cardies we see are interchangeable military grunts. The lawyers and torturers always have the best scenes. They love speaking in those five-dollar words. And all of them insist that they hate violence!:story:

 
Throughout the entirety of Trek canon, their only notable feature, aside from being gross pigmen, is that they're assholes.
but in all incarnations their most polite greeting tends to be flipping you the bird while shouting "fuck your whore mother".

So that’s the planet we exiled all of the Bostonians to? Good to know!
 
You can just feel Nitpicking Nerd's frustration oozing out of these montages.

It's gotta be considered iconoclasm at this point, right? Like the writers only watched a few TNG or OG episodes, saw the movies, and said okay great, I do what I want, don't give a fuck, sprinkle some memberberries to make the above-average fan soyface here and there.
 
Im just gobsmacked that they managed to make Discovery look like TNG by comparison.

I could be off base on this assumption but I see tellarites being to dwarves as Vulcans are to elves. Tellarites are grumpy assholes that are the best at fixing things. Dwarves.
 
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