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You all are giving it more thought right now that what the writers did during the entirety of the writing process of the show.

It's like, you want a current day plot in which there are no more cars or planes. I'm sure many of us can think many ways for this to happen that is not "what if all the gas of the world blows up?!"
 
I think they showed on VOY the crew ejecting the warp core from the ship before exploding but not to the magnitude implied in Kurtzman Trek, at best they could destroy a ship following them or some shit like that.
Voyager ejected the core only once I think. It didn't blow up but the aliens of the week tractor beamed it to extort more resources out of Voyager. They did throw out the Omega Particle stabilizer device, and that did blow up.
Impulse engines don't rely on dilithium to work, I believe on ENT they were using plasma. Also how come nobody came up with a new way of travelling faster than light after The Burn™? It's like the galaxy got frozen in time until the kween Burnham arrived.
They did in Voyager, the Omega Particle. It makes subspace unwarpable and small amounts have subspace explosion radii measured in light years.

Other FTLs on Voyager include:
  • The Caretaker's Array
  • The "subspace catapult"
  • Slipstream drive, commented by characters to have more to do with the deflector array than the warp nacelles
  • Q's son Q taking Icheb and the Delta Flyer across the galaxy using the Flyer's current technical setup
  • Borg transwarp coils
  • Borg transwarp hub and conduits, requiring infrastructure built on the surface of a star in a nebula
 
You all are giving it more thought right now that what the writers did during the entirety of the writing process of the show.

It's like, you want a current day plot in which there are no more cars or planes. I'm sure many of us can think many ways for this to happen that is not "what if all the gas of the world blows up?!"

Emp... New highly contagious bacteria that eats petroleum but is otherwise harmless forcing other forms of energy to become strained..

Even in star trek they played with the idea that the warp could become" worn out" if repeatedly traveled hence the more aerodynamic ships ( that one might of been a novel plot... Not television).

Hell... The star trek and transformers cross over comic was better written then modern star trek
 
Next week.
Just replace george lucas raping indiana jones with kurtzman raping sisko, south park was right

With the amount of raping the franchise has been getting in the last decade you'd think it had married anisa

CervixHammer said:
>Jayden's dad let his brother die rather than use a Federation dermal regenerator
I guess the writers forgot the whole thing about martok himself making a point of avoiding klingon doctors and going out of his way to see bashir for his war related injuries

Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Klingons cry now
The writers forgot its literally canon that klingons don't have tear ducts apparently
 
So... Is kurtzmann trek completely unsalvageable
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Voyager ejected the core only once I think. It didn't blow up but the aliens of the week tractor beamed it to extort more resources out of Voyager. They did throw out the Omega Particle stabilizer device, and that did blow up.
Insurrection is the movie with the warp core ejection and blow up. But yes Voyager did it too WITHOUT blowing up the core (otherwise how would they get home).
 
Not really with how replicators work. It's still a post scarcity society despite what the writers try. No one is trading essentials in universe just entertainment and very specific materials almost used exclusively for star ships.
Replicators are not nearly as universal as we want to believe, given all the evidence of transportation of commodities across multiple series. Ships are are encountered transporting everything from luxury goods to staple foods. Why would anyone transport grain if they could just magic it out of the air?

On a different topic, I will admit I'm near the front of the queue when it comes to defending jolene blalock's vulcan display, but I think I'm not alone in arguing that the near-ultimate vulcan portrayal (after leonard nimoy and kirstie alley) is kim cattral's Valeris. She's the exact mix of arrogance, suppressed emotion, and deception that I'd expect from such a self-obsessed and intrigue-focused race.
Can you imagine Starfleet Academy writers creating this today?
Never mind that, can you imagine them writing this?


(I keep coming back to this scene. It's the epitome of TNG as far as I'm concerned)
 
Replicators are not nearly as universal as we want to believe, given all the evidence of transportation of commodities across multiple series. Ships are are encountered transporting everything from luxury goods to staple foods. Why would anyone transport grain if they could just magic it out of the air?
DS9 had some lines where imported was viewed as superior to replicated. Syrup of Squill and Yamak Sauce are two examples. I don't buy that replicator makes bad food like Eddington said, that it's just textured protein molecules and grown tomatoes are better. I don't believe it. I think in post-scarcity foodies like fresh and grown food when they can get it. That, plus Klingon and Ferengi cuisine often have living bugs. The Federation probably also has "protected designation of origin" laws for foodstuffs like the EU. And if replicated foods have no microorganisms maybe your gut biome would rebel.
Q's son Q taking Icheb and the Delta Flyer across the galaxy using the Flyer's current technical setup
This always got me because Q Junior used the Flyer's own tech to make a spatial flexure. Not wishing them there, he just used his knowledge with the tech they already have. You'd think Torres could recall the sequence of commands given to it from the computer.
 
I don't buy that replicator makes bad food like Eddington said, that it's just textured protein molecules and grown tomatoes are better. I don't believe it.
Replicators make the same identical thing every single time, is how I took that line.
 
Insurrection is the movie with the warp core ejection and blow up. But yes Voyager did it too WITHOUT blowing up the core (otherwise how would they get home).
When he created the original design drawing for Voyager, Rick Sternbach actually included a spare warp core for just such an occasion, but, like the Aeroshuttle on the bottom of the saucer, it was never seen or mentioned on the show, and the episode you reference makes it sound like losing the primary would be disasterous.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ak5r6H0fka8Arnok, on the night of his joining.
I'm reluctant to admit that I ended up enjoying Lower Decks quite a bit, despite avoiding it for most of its run after finding the pilot episode retarded. It was the opposite of what we've been discussing with the STD writers and "the burn", in that the producers clearly liked TNG and pulled deep from lore for their zany adventures.

The writing was inconsistent and, at times, unpleasantly millennial, but you'd have to have a heart of stone not to enjoy silly moments like Shrax and the warp core ejection, or the destruction of Pakled Planet. It shouldn't be canon, of course, but still an enjoyable watch.

Replicators make the same identical thing every single time, is how I took that line.
Ludditism and backwardness is heavily implied whenever anyone on the show criticizes replicated food. The comparison is to people who think Microwaves somehow make food less nutritious.
 
DS9 had some lines where imported was viewed as superior to replicated. Syrup of Squill and Yamak Sauce are two examples. I don't buy that replicator makes bad food like Eddington said, that it's just textured protein molecules and grown tomatoes are better. I don't believe it. I think in post-scarcity foodies like fresh and grown food when they can get it. That, plus Klingon and Ferengi cuisine often have living bugs. The Federation probably also has "protected designation of origin" laws for foodstuffs like the EU. And if replicated foods have no microorganisms maybe your gut biome would rebel.

This always got me because Q Junior used the Flyer's own tech to make a spatial flexure. Not wishing them there, he just used his knowledge with the tech they already have. You'd think Torres could recall the sequence of commands given to it from the computer.
The replicator has trouble making proper booze. The replicator probably makes okay stuff that is typically nutritionally positive, so if you never had the real thing, you don't know any better. For people who do have the real thing, replicator food tastes like Impossible food.

 
Replicators make the same identical thing every single time, is how I took that line.
yeah this is the idea I got going back to TNG at least
you replicate a burger you get The Burger every time
you replicate a pile of ground beef and spices and cook the burger you get some about of wiggle room
 
The replicator has trouble making proper booze. The replicator probably makes okay stuff that is typically nutritionally positive, so if you never had the real thing, you don't know any better. For people who do have the real thing, replicator food tastes like Impossible food.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IVYA3tqdQaE

Yeah, there are plenty of lines about cooking individual ingredients being better than straight replication of the end dish. In reality, it's best not to think too hard about the replicators because the idea falls apart completely on so many diffetent levels.

It's basically Family Guy for Trek nerds. For better or worse. "You recognize this, right?"

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Oh yeah, the hot chocolate lady, sick pull.

It's incredibly annoying. It becomes very obviously quickly that the writers went through all the old series and made notes on stuff to reference. None of it comes organically and each episode is full of "HEY REMEMBER THIS? That's the joke!" I cant stand it.
 
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