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Have the Maquis kidnap one of Dukat's children, like the son he mentioned in the Tom Riker-episode. Make it really cheesy so that the Maquis appear as the bad guys and Dukat is just a father that will kill them all to get his kid back.
Have them accidentally kidnap one of Dukat's children. Fight amongst themselves as to what to do with them, while Dukat is tearing a strip across the Badlands. In then end, he doesn't even care all that much. It's about avenging the personal slight.
 
B5 was better when Tolkien was more obscure, but it's still good .
I want to rewatch it but I really want the 4:3 version from the LDs. I saw the DVDs as my first time through and got totally buttmad at the cropjob on the PsyCorps ad that I went on ebay and got the LD for that ep immediately just so I could really know how mad to be.

I keep putting Andromeda and Cleopatra 2525 in my "one of these days" pile
I have an autographed pic of Kevin Sorbo as Dylan Hunt in my office from a previous life, I never really was into his stuff but he was nice and gave us one.
 
Okay so the Klingon is a homo but why does he have to wear skirts and dresses? Why does no one in the galaxy think this is odd? Did the burn give everyone space AIDS?
 
I want to rewatch it but I really want the 4:3 version from the LDs.
The HBOMax remasters are in 4:3 and mostly HD since most of the show, minus scenes with special effects, were filmed in HD. Here's a screenshot from the episode I'm watching right now:
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This is also a H265 compressed file so the actual streamed episode will be in higher quality. The quality is good enough that you can read the signs they have on the sets and spot fun little things like how they used pages from the phonebook to fill up G'kar's Book of Ja'Quan. Close up shots of people in alien make up aren't great, especially Delenn in season 2, but get better by season 3.
 
Okay so the Klingon is a homo but why does he have to wear skirts and dresses? Why does no one in the galaxy think this is odd? Did the burn give everyone space AIDS?

Got to break those bucks.


The main answer will be some intern hired to write the show flicked though some videos of YouTube and saw a man wearing a dress in Encounters at Farpoint. Also buck breaking.
 
Okay so the Klingon is a homo but why does he have to wear skirts and dresses? Why does no one in the galaxy think this is odd? Did the burn give everyone space AIDS?
You answered your own question: because he's gay. That actually says more about the writers and their stereotypes than anything else could. The Klingon faggot is what they THINK gay people are like. When they did that stuff in Police Academy, it was absurd, offensive, but decidedly not serious. When Starfleet Academy does it, it's super serious business and if you disagree you're just Hitler.
 
Okay so the Klingon is a homo but why does he have to wear skirts and dresses? Why does no one in the galaxy think this is odd? Did the burn give everyone space AIDS?
The Burn destroyed the testosterone in the entire galaxy.

Of course the gay Klingon and his twink boyfriend are going to Ibiza.
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I guess the writers kind of forgot about Risa...

Also is it me or the wedding plot is ripped from the episode "Amok Time" from TOS but with a [current year] tone?

You answered your own question: because he's gay. That actually says more about the writers and their stereotypes than anything else could. The Klingon faggot is what they THINK gay people are like. When they did that stuff in Police Academy, it was absurd, offensive, but decidedly not serious. When Starfleet Academy does it, it's super serious business and if you disagree you're just Hitler.
I believe the writer of this episode is the same gay black guy who wrote the previous Klingon episode.
 
I don't remember this episode of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.
You joke, but:



Supposedly the film crew did that without telling Sorbo and his reaction is genuine.

I want a Star Trek series that covers the exclusive Maquis experiance, Fighting the Cardassians and Star Fleet before having to contend with the Dominion completely obliterating the movement and being forced to accept they were way over their heads.
A group of pseudo-terrorists flush with well-meaning but ultimately childish idealists recruited from the Federation, and refugee settlers from Bajor trying to colonize territory claimed by their former oppressors.

In the 90's that meant the Maquis were a mix of Israeli-settlers and the French Resistance, with Cardassia as the Nazis and the Federation as the West trying to get Bajor/Israel established post-war.

If they made that today, the Maquis would be getting invaded by Bajor, Make Cardassia Great Again would be sending weapons to Bajor, and the Federation refusing to pick a side because the Bajoran latinum owns their political class while the Federation populous has endless protests in favor of the Maquis.

Then the Dominion shows up with Changling Putin to invade Kronos and suddenly nobody cares about the Maquis or Bajor anymore.
 
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Is anyone playing this? I've heard nobody mention it. I only noticed it just came out today and downloaded it....

It's not too bad it reminds me of that Fallout Shelter game although I never played that. I'm a couple of hours in and it's fairly fun. The first mission is the Caretaker's Array.

Lots of managing resources and keeping crew happy, there is no voiceover so it's something to play while you listen to something in the background.

IMO it's a bit overpriced at $40 but if it's on sale on Steam pick it up
 
The HBOMax remasters are in 4:3 and mostly HD since most of the show, minus scenes with special effects, were filmed in HD.
It's really a shame that Foundation Digital lost all the source files for the CGI scenes. Would have been nice to be able to re-render them in HD without needing to completely recreate them.

IMO it's a bit overpriced at $40 but if it's on sale on Steam pick it up
I was vaguely aware this game was in development, but seen almost zero marketing for this, and no launch announcements anywhere.

Doesn't seem like my jam, but will probably do as you suggest and pick it up when in a few months when the save system is fixed and it's sub $25.
 
If you find some good ones, post them. We need new, good Trek content or else I will declare martial law and force everyone to watch and discuss Babylon 5, Sliders, and/or Space: Above and Beyond.
I’ve already got Andromeda downloaded to give it a shot based on the mention upthread.

I’ll humbly recommend Space: 1999 for anyone with a stomach for TOS-style effects(though the show aired a decade after TOS.)
 
Babylon 5 is better than DS9 and I will fight anyone in this thread who disagrees. Season 1 Delenn is cuter than season 2 onward Delenn and Lyta is hotter than Thallia Winters. Don't @ me, you know I'm right.
I thought DS9 was better than B5. I'm probably very biased though because I watched DS9 first, and I went into B5 with high expectations because I'd only ever heard it described as "DS9 but way better." I also didn't watch season 5, but I may go back to it someday.

That's not to say I thought B5 was bad. Overall I'd say it's good. I think it's biggest problem was that there was a lot of good set up for things but not enough payoff. The mystery of the Vorlons and the Shadows and the "great war" being the biggest disappointment by far for me. I also thought pretty much every main human character except Garibaldi lacked charisma. I also thought that Delenn and Tron had little chemistry, which made the back half of the show feel even weaker. Also Lennier early in the show was a fun character but by the end of season 4 he basically was relegated to being Sulu, he was just the guy on the bridge pressing buttons.

Every scene with Londo or G'kar, and especially the scenes with both, were 10/10. Vier too. On the whole I thought they did a good job with the props, costumes, and effects. The last episode of season 4 was the worst attempt at that kind of story I've ever seen. Season 4 in general was really weak, and the show peaked in season 2(?) when martial law on Earth was first declared. Lyta was 100x hotter than Talia and Delenn's hair looked bad, I agree.
 
I thought DS9 was better than B5. I'm probably very biased though because I watched DS9 first, and I went into B5 with high expectations because I'd only ever heard it described as "DS9 but way better." I also didn't watch season 5, but I may go back to it someday.
I love B5, but all of your criticisms are very fair. I still think its narrative holds together better than DS9, but it's imperfect and has aged poorly in many ways.

The CGI was a novelty at the time, but it was made on a bunch of networked Amiga 500s, so... look, the poor little Video Toasters were doing their best. As I said earlier it would have been nice if they could have preserved the source files and re-output at HD quality, not that it would have suddenly been realistic looking, but at least it wouldn't be fuzzy. I suppose AI upscaling might be an option.

Story wise, the issues all come down to JMS himself, who is a good writer, but not as good as he and many other people thinks. He wrote all but a handful of 5 seasons worth of episodes, and it shows.

He's too autistic to write non-cringey romantic subplots. And he's too much of a literal boomer shitlib to write historical or political metaphors that aren't ham-fisted ripoffs of Rod Serling morality plays (he was the story editor for the 1980's Twilight Zone reboot). It's always 1954 and monstrous Joe McCarthys are always unfairly prosecuting innocent artists.

The show probably would have benefited from just a little tard wrangling here or there on the teleplay side.
 
I think the only missions I really "hate" are Measure of Morality for retarded moralizing ( and that any option you choose resulted in bad consequences) and making us interact with Burnham, and the two Discovery chains. Thankfully, the story goes back to being okay when T'kuvma's sister fucks things up and causes a civil war.

Now if only they'd let us phaser Will Wheaton...
The "dude multiverse borg lmao" storyline's been going on a bit too long for me, and I've been sick of the "Aetherians" since they first showed up and were obviously some kind of Iconians. New mission's alright I guess, but whoever got the idea in their head that what a 16-year-old MMO needs is more cutscenes should see a doctor.

Also it may not have done anything but I definitely phasered Wil Wheaton. I disruptored, plasma'd, antiprotoned, polaroned and tetryoned Wil Wheaton. I shot Wil Wheaton with some kind of weird electricity gun I don't remember how I got. Probably the hologram tommy gun too. That big retarded gun White Khan had in Into Darkness? That's right, I shot Wil Wheaton in the ass and face with it. (He did not shut up though)
 
I love B5, but all of your criticisms are very fair. I still think its narrative holds together better than DS9, but it's imperfect and has aged poorly in many ways.
DS9 definitely has its share of problems. Unlike B5 they clearly never had long term plans for the show, but by and large the characters and plot evolve quite naturally, which is impressive to me.

I think the most egregiously bad slip is Bashir actually being superhuman, which really changes the implications of every prior episode featuring him without seemingly meaning to. I personally don't mind it much, but the concept was clearly invented just before that episode aired, really late in the show, so they clearly didn't think it through much at all. Also no one is really satisfied with Sisko's finale, but the rest of the last arc and last episode is so good that it also doesn't bother me much, even though he's the main character.

And he's too much of a literal boomer shitlib to write historical or political metaphors that aren't ham-fisted ripoffs of Rod Serling morality plays (he was the story editor for the 1980's Twilight Zone reboot). It's always 1954 and monstrous Joe McCarthys are always unfairly prosecuting innocent artists.

The show probably would have benefited from just a little tard wrangling here or there on the teleplay side.
This was definitely an issue. Every "racism" episode on B5 had exactly the same setup and stock characters. My favorite was actually the season 1 episode with Ethnic Cleansing Terminator.

Every character on the side of Martial Law Earth except for some ship captains who are just like "muh duty to the uniform" are very basic Nazi caricatures. You can have some characters like that for sure but it kept happening. The exception to all this is Psi-Corps, and especially Bester. I liked all the Psi-Corps stuff and felt like they were actually compelling as villains, but felt like it was ultimately underutilized. Maybe they do a lot more with it in Season 5, which I can't comment on. Also I kinda wished they'd followed up on the dock workers union stuff more. That was a good first season episode, too. I think the first season might have been my favorite.

As for the CGI, I didn't mind it at all. I thought it looked very good for the time and especially the budget.
 
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