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Anybody else think Nechayev is actually a pretty decent boss, maybe a little terse and lacking tact but over all pretty fair


Admiral Nechayev, Keiko O'Brien, and Dr. Pulaski. Of the three, Nechayev walks out mostly unscathed. She’s stationed on the Cardassian border, which is the A Few Good Men problem: it’s an unenviable post. You don’t want a soft-touch there.

Pulaski tried to recapture the magic of Kirk/Spock/Bones but fell short. Keiko has the most milksop job in the Federation (space florist) but she seems to think she's fighting on the real frontier.

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Nechavey is the kind of competent character that has been purposefully surrounded by incompetent fools for political reasons, eventually runs out of patience (and options) and takes that frustration out on underlings (Picard, Sisko) who have no other choice, while disguising that personal, private dissatisfaction with how shit's handled with "I'm acting on orders from the Federation Council".
Just imagine how much paperwork the admirals have to fill out whenever a captain defies their orders.
 

Watching the trainwreck that is SFA is so much more satisfying when watched through other people's eyes.
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I've watched Disparu review Willow, Robyn Hood, and the Acolyte and I've never seen him losing it like this. From 45 minutes on he's completely broken, reminds me of myself last week. I'm so glad I stopped watching this shit.
 
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Anybody else think Nechayev is actually a pretty decent boss, maybe a little terse and lacking tact but over all pretty fair
The were lucky she was so consistently lenient. Instead of just yelling at Picard for refusing to pull the trigger on the Federation-saving Borg-twink-logic-bomb, she should have thrown his "ethical" French ass out an airlock.
 
Just imagine how much paperwork the admirals have to fill out whenever a captain defies their orders.
Yes, and there is another quality to that. An Admiral like Nechayev exists in a chain of command, and in that she is punished for the infractions of those she's responsible for. There is an incentive to avoid that punishment by disciplining the underlying parts of your OOB, but that doesn't always work. You can be a competent Admiral that incorporates the stances of the Captains and still have a (technically correct) loose cannon like Maxwell being part of that.

The flipside of the coin in Nechayev's case is that she is directly exposed to the utter incompetence that is Federation foreign politics in the mid to late 2360s. There is no filter. Nechayev is Picard's or Sisko's filter, they probably are only rudimentary aware of bad things really are - or alternatively, can afford to maintain an opinion. But who can act as her filter? This is the main reason why certain admirals just go... bonkers and do shady shit: I've been forced to endure and suffer the bumbling, retarded idiots that are the politicians arouns here, and I don't want to deal with that shit any longer, because nothing gets done efficiently.
 
Admiral Nechayev, Keiko O'Brien, and Dr.Pulaski
Listen call me a Trek pick-me but I don't have any problems with any of these characters. I'm not sure why Keiko sounds vaguely pissed off all the time but shes's a good foil to Miles. Pulaski's android racism is a little clunky writing-wise but she looks and sounds a lot like my real life grandmother so I can't stay mad at her
 
Listen call me a Trek pick-me but I don't have any problems with any of these characters. I'm not sure why Keiko sounds vaguely pissed off all the time
I saw Deep Space Nine first and Keiko’s attitude made sense. She goes from living on a floating Four Seasons to an abandoned shopping mall with no furniture or schools for Molly.

But then I watched The Next Generation and realized, no, this is just baseline Keiko O'Brien.

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Also (hate to say it), Rosalind Chao has crazy BIG eyes, so Keiko always looks like she's crashing out.
 
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Anybody else think Nechayev is actually a pretty decent boss, maybe a little terse and lacking tact but over all pretty fair
Yes. It's not her fault her job is to be a middlewoman between Captains and the Federation Council, which is a government that has no idea how the frontier actually is and issue a frustratingly bad treaty that caused a proxy war.
 
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I refuse to watch anymore Star Trek: Quality Learing Academy but I just saw this on X:
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Have they actually studied a single military or naval engagement in Academy? Seems to me like that’s something that should be covered for potential new officers.
At this point they have literally thousands of years of martial history to draw from. Not only that, but they have holodecks to recreate all this stuff. They could be reenacting Trafalgar, Samar, Tsushima or Wolf 359. Hell, they could be battle gaming Jutland and spending their free time giving Beaty wedgies.
 
Have they actually studied a single military or naval engagement in Academy? Seems to me like that’s something that should be covered for potential new officers.
At this point they have literally thousands of years of martial history to draw from. Not only that, but they have holodecks to recreate all this stuff. They could be reenacting Trafalgar, Samar, Tsushima or Wolf 359. Hell, they could be battle gaming Jutland and spending their free time giving Beaty wedgies.
No. Because that would have been cool and would have provided character building moments, so of course they didn't do that. You know, there's also the naval or martial history of the hundreds of planets to consider that at one point were a member of the Federation. They could have used a specific battle in the war between the Andorians and Vulcans or something between the Romulans and Klingons or the Dominion War or virtually anything.

The reason why they didn't do that, refuse to do it and will continue not doing it is because it is something the fans would have wanted. Modern television is never giving the fans what they want. Instead, time and effort is invested in telling the fans that what they want is wrong on the moral level and that their opinions are irrelevant.
 
Have they actually studied a single military or naval engagement in Academy? Seems to me like that’s something that should be covered for potential new officers.
At this point they have literally thousands of years of martial history to draw from. Not only that, but they have holodecks to recreate all this stuff. They could be reenacting Trafalgar, Samar, Tsushima or Wolf 359. Hell, they could be battle gaming Jutland and spending their free time giving Beaty wedgies.
It's such a waste that they haven't. Star Trek always had the advantage of having writers that knew about the military. Not only tactics, but the structure, mentality, and spirit of military minds. Today's writer only know movie action.
 
Klingon chef was a joke which worked because he was still unmistakably Klingon.

A joke character which nobody saw him as such, given just how beloved he is by Star Trek fans and everyone else who saw him.
He just applied the warrior ethos to serving food.

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He may have not been the best warrior who have gone to Sto-vo-kor, but damn they were eating good after he got there. R.I.P. Ron Taylor
 
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