Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Clown College 2nd Year]

So, uh in the newest episode of ST:A the entirety of federation territory is encompassed by mines spaced light years apart. The kicker is that they're based on the Omega particle. I just watched the Omega Directive the other day and well I guess I'm not really surprised at how retarded that idea really is. I don't really have any other details about why the federation made this incredibly stupid decision, but this is Kurtzman trek.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

 

[CervixHammer]

So, uh in the newest episode of ST:A the entirety of federation territory is encompassed by mines spaced light years apart. The kicker is that they're based on the Omega particle. I just watched the Omega Directive the other day and well I guess I'm not really surprised at how retarded that idea really is. I don't really have any other details about why the federation made this incredibly stupid decision, but this is Kurtzman trek.

Must be leftovers from the STO anniversary event(s).
I wonder if Kurtzman read the 3 Body Problem trilogy when they were developing this, because it seems like the kind of Space Bullshit that happens in those. Mainly the "black domain" concept.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I was just re-watching TNG by chance and I came across this scene.

It's such a fun and wonderful scene and the two actors play very well off of each other making it even better. The writing is on point, snappy but not quipy nor light-heated. Picard isn't kidding around while Q is just as serious for once.

Where is this kind of stuff in nu-Trek? Why cannot the writers make something like this? It's not a hard scene, it's not full of fancy words, nor important plot stuff nor even any big dramatic moments. Just a quite scene to set the stage for what is to come, made all the more intense and enjoyable because we as an audience knows very well what Q is capable of when the mood strikes him.

This is what is missing in nu-Trek. The sense of vere, of actual character interactions done by people whose motives we can understand. Character who make sense and act like real people would...yah I know it's all been said before but for some reason tonight, watching this episode it really drove it home to me.

I feel bad for all those who grow up only knowing nu-Trek.

 

[Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo]

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It is a good day to die shitting yourself.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

now I want a DS9 spinoff where Sisko has Bashir and O'Brien look into those bizarre "getter" rays they found
I hit a wall on O'Brien doing a toothy getter grin

Obviously it would be Sisko, O'Brien, and Worf.

Computer, take this batshit-insane-yet-awesome idea and make something out of it.



(Could have done some more refining, but it was late. Also, Miles is using chopsticks because it's what Keiko sent him off with, OKAY?)

 

[Captain Syrup]

It's such a fun and wonderful scene and the two actors play very well off of each other making it even better. The writing is on point, snappy but not quipy nor light-heated. Picard isn't kidding around while Q is just as serious for once.

Where is this kind of stuff in nu-Trek?

Obviously Kurtzman is the phoniest type of showrunner. He keeps preaching to us like he's a fragile millennial when he's really just making slop.



The problem is everything is in decline. Someone took me out for dinner recently and asked what shows I’m hyped for and I had to answer, “…nothing.” What are you supposed to say, the reboot of Scrubs where they’re all 50? Movies aren’t any better. Are you excited for the next Jared Leto vehicle? At this point Resident Evil constitutes the AAA gaming industry. We sit on our asses for 5 years waiting for the next sequel, like the schmucks in Waiting for Godot.

 

[Miller]

So, uh in the newest episode of ST:A the entirety of federation territory is encompassed by mines spaced light years apart. The kicker is that they're based on the Omega particle. I just watched the Omega Directive the other day and well I guess I'm not really surprised at how retarded that idea really is. I don't really have any other details about why the federation made this incredibly stupid decision, but this is Kurtzman trek.
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Of course they had to bring up the Omega particle, they can't come up with something original.

>bad guy builds a space wall around the Federation
Wow, subtle.
And somehow nobody noticed.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Of course they had to bring up the Omega particle, they can't come up with something original.

They're really plumbing the depths now. Isn't that from late season Voyager or some shit?

 

[One_True_Yuri]

They're really plumbing the depths now. Isn't that from late season Voyager or some shit?

I thought the Omega particle in Voyager was a cool but underutilized idea, but frankly.... yeah in this its like trying to Frankenstein some new lore and plot because theres no good original thoughts

 

[All the beef fit to eat]

in the newest episode of ST:A the entirety of federation territory is encompassed by mines spaced light years apart. The kicker is that they're based on the Omega particle

This may be the single stupidest reference to Classic trek they could have picked. A mcguffin super molecule with plot-ending properties--turned into a Maginot Line of mines that destroys light-years of matter. It's like they never even watched the episode.



Every time I think NuTrek can't sink any lower, Kurtzman is there to pull some freshly pooped shit out of his ass in this weeks episode.

I was really hopeful this show was going to be set in the 24h century, but it is obvious to anyone that Cuntsman and company cannot be trusted with their own timeline--they do dumb shit like this.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Garrett Wang and Robert McNeill also have a podcast called The Delta Flyers

Unironically sounds like something Harry and Tom would call their podcast.

Do you think the Federation would have survived if the Borg made their first appearance in the TOS era?

Knowing TOS, Kirk would probably preach the values of democracy after punching a few drones.

Yes, Kirk was heavily armed and ready for action.
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What if the Borg came for his penis?

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Captain Jenkins was the most evil captain in all of Star Fleet. I heard she threatened her EMH frequently and executed nonessential personel

Good think Ensign SF Debris was able to come forward about how evil she was.

So, uh in the newest episode of ST:A the entirety of federation territory is encompassed by mines spaced light years apart. The kicker is that they're based on the Omega particle. I just watched the Omega Directive the other day and well I guess I'm not really surprised at how retarded that idea really is. I don't really have any other details about why the federation made this incredibly stupid decision, but this is Kurtzman trek.
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Here's a little explanation for those who didn't watch Voyager and don't know why this is stupid as hell.

The Omega Particle is an unstable energy source whose research was outlawed by Starfleet due to how its volatility could damage warp drive. It's so dangerous, that Starfleet issued the Omega Directive, an order that's active whenever an Omega Particle is detected nearby. The Directive translates to, "Fuck the Prime Directive, take out that Particle at all costs." Even when Voyager detected Omega energy in the Delta Quadrant, Janeway was determined to follow the Omega Directive.

So, with all that being said... HOW DID STARFLEET NOT PICK UP ON OMEGA ENERGY CENTURIES LATER?!

This was after the Burn, which tore the Federation apart through the destruction of most of their warp technology, and the entirety of Starfleet never had a contingency plan in case some nutjob tried to cause The Burn 2: Burn Harder?

It is a good day to die shitting yourself.

I'm pretty sure those were Elvis' last words.

>bad guy builds a space wall around the Federation
Wow, subtle.
And somehow nobody noticed.

Such a thinly-veiled reference to Anton York.

I thought the Omega particle in Voyager was a cool but underutilized idea, but frankly.... yeah in this its like trying to Frankenstein some new lore and plot because theres no good original thoughts

 

[Whiskey]

Of course they had to bring up the Omega particle, they can't come up with something original.

>bad guy builds a space wall around the Federation
Wow, subtle.
And somehow nobody noticed.

Is it really villainous to build a wall around the learing academy?

Maybe the villain is just sick of constant S.O.S signals being blared across every communications channel because the retards tore another ship in half via meteor.

 

[E. Knee as Weapon - Cont.]

I was just re-watching TNG by chance and I came across this scene.

It's such a fun and wonderful scene and the two actors play very well off of each other making it even better. The writing is on point, snappy but not quipy nor light-heated. Picard isn't kidding around while Q is just as serious for once.

Where is this kind of stuff in nu-Trek? Why cannot the writers make something like this? It's not a hard scene, it's not full of fancy words, nor important plot stuff nor even any big dramatic moments. Just a quite scene to set the stage for what is to come, made all the more intense and enjoyable because we as an audience knows very well what Q is capable of when the mood strikes him.

This is what is missing in nu-Trek. The sense of vere, of actual character interactions done by people whose motives we can understand. Character who make sense and act like real people would...yah I know it's all been said before but for some reason tonight, watching this episode it really drove it home to me.

I feel bad for all those who grow up only knowing nu-Trek.

I still think the actual characters aren't the problem. You could take a dork like Jay-Den and do him right in TNG. He's no worse conceptually than Barclay or Alexander or Nog.

With Nutrek, the camera work is too busy, the set design is too flashy, and the dialog is too quippy and casual. The tone of 90s Trek is somewhere between Hunt for Red October, West Wing and Frasier. NuTrek is more like whatever teen slop was on The WB. Starfleet officers were intelligent professionals solving problems, or dealing with danger, or navigating a wacky situation. Barclay was tolerated, not affirmed. And the non-Starfleet regular cast still behaved and spoke in such a way that it made sense for them to be interacting with Starfleet. Nog is a bumbling idiot but he's only there because of his savvy brother who scraped his way to a minor fiefdom on DS9. In NuTrek, Nog would be running the bar despite being a bumbling idiot and he'd always be getting out of trouble through dumb luck.

I never made it past the first episode of Starfleet Academy but the tone was more "community arts college" than "officer school." I don't want to look at the bridge crew and see my high school faculty, I want to see the best and brightest behaving like naval officers.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I never made it past the first episode of Starfleet Academy but the tone was more "community arts college" than "officer school." I don't want to look at the bridge crew and see my high school faculty, I want to see the best and brightest behaving like naval officers.

The paradox of Nu Trek is that everyone is parading around in military drip. But the director is terrified of anyone who behaves like they're at war.

It’s probably because war propaganda is pitched at boomers while these shows are desperately trying to lure Gen-Z.

I compared it a while back to Starship Troopers, but at least that movie is funny. This feels like I'm in a bomb shelter listening to bad outdated techno because everyone's in denial and refuses to stop dancing.

 

[Van Darkholme]

Looks like kurtzmann trek is dead and there isn't anything coming after SFA season 2 and SNW season 5.

Good. Let them die.

Rather have no trek than ten more years of gay jew trek.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

I compared it a while back to Starship Troopers, but at least that movie is funny. This feels like I'm in a bomb shelter listening to bad outdated techno because everyone's in denial and refuses to stop dancing.

"Frankly, I find the idea of a Trekkie that thinks offensive!"

-Starfleet Academy writers

 

[Miller]

The tone of 90s Trek is somewhere between Hunt for Red October, West Wing and Frasier.

They were written like a period piece. Adult characters talking and behaving like adults. No curse words (sure due to the FCC and the networks, but still), a respect for the etiquette and a sense of morale that is good vs bad behavior, not "erm, this dude is guilty but this poor woman was just misunderstood".

 

[Meriasek]

or overexposing the Borg to the human condition

... he'd fuck the Borg queen and give her space AIDS.

 

[William Murderface]

Looks like kurtzmann trek is dead and there isn't anything coming after SFA season 2 and SNW season 5.

Good. Let them die.

Rather have no trek than ten more years of gay jew trek.

I've thought for a while that maybe Star Trek needs to lie fallow for a while and then get a hard reboot with none of the 60 years of lore and baggage to tie it to the past. Just start with the basic concept of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, the Enterprise, and an episodic morality play each week and then moving on to the next adventure.

But I'm honestly not sure that's possible with the current environment of the studios, the writers, and what they both think the audience wants.