Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Came across this, got reminded how fucking awesome Farscape was, gonna rewatch it now.

Also, just to reiterate, ENT was cancelled too soon. It was just finding its pace and it should have gotten the usual seven seasons. T'pol was a blatant eye-candy introduction, but the character was also pretty funny at times and had pretty decent development.
 
Gromit the Claymation Dog said:
Also, I imagine in my hypothetical season 8 that there would be a massive revolt on Ferenginar after Rom becomes Grand Nagus in what is an obvious display of nepotism. That was always my second least favourite part of DS9. Rom has no place being a politician. Throughout the whole show they portray him as the underdog technical genius, so you’d expect he’d wind up somewhere like Nog, but then at the end he’s the Grand Nagus. It was dumb and I hated it, but I correct in my head by just imagining the people of the Ferengi Alliance putting blood to the streets over it.
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Rom was clearly put into power by Ishka (Moogie) so that he would be an easy to control puppet for her to remain in power despite "retiring". It's pretty damn shortsighted of her putting a literal retard on the throne when she's gonna presumably die soon, but not at all inconsistent with how she was portrayed in the rest of the show.
 
UnKillFill said:
Rom was clearly put into power by Ishka (Moogie) so that he would be an easy to control puppet for her to remain in power despite "retiring". It's pretty damn shortsighted of her putting a literal retard on the throne when she's gonna presumably die soon, but not at all inconsistent with how she was portrayed in the rest of the show.
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That is definitely in character for Moogie, and coupling that final move with the sudden and frankly unnatural culture shift that Ferengi society goes through does reinforce the idea that there would be considerable friction going forward. I remember at one point that Quark declares his bar the last bastion of the Ferengi way after he sees what’s going on, and I can’t imagine that he’s alone in that sentiment. Either way, the inevitable failure of Rom’s rule would be a fun storyline.
 
So that's season two of Enterprise done. There was an episode here and there I vaguely remember watching when it aired but I'm fairly certain I didn't even make it that far that one time I tried to watch it a decade later.

I'm still enjoying myself. Boy there sure are a lot of episodes where the episode opens and Archer's already captured. I don't hate T'Pol anymore. Most of the crew's grown on me. Except Mayweather he just has nothing going for him really. It's still way more horny than past series by a margin.

I'm definitely a little sad that I'm already halfway through. I could have watched seven season of this. Ah well.
 
Gromit the Claymation Dog said:
Also, I imagine in my hypothetical season 8 that there would be a massive revolt on Ferenginar after Rom becomes Grand Nagus in what is an obvious display of nepotism. That was always my second least favourite part of DS9. Rom has no place being a politician. Throughout the whole show they portray him as the underdog technical genius, so you’d expect he’d wind up somewhere like Nog, but then at the end he’s the Grand Nagus. It was dumb and I hated it, but I correct it in my head by just imagining the people of the Ferengi Alliance putting blood to the streets over it.
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Rom could turn Ferenginar into a STEM hotbed, heck they already have the M part down. The Ferengi bought warp travel from another species. I imagine trade suffered because of the Dominion War; who's buying when everything goes to the war effort or pops out of a replicator anyways. Quark observed the Nagus is to put the collective greed above his own, so maybe the best thing for Ferenginar is Nagus Rom bringing self-sufficient technological advancement by starting an FIT.
UnKillFill said:
a literal retard
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Rom is more of an idiot savant, whose lack of confidence comes from living in his brother's shadow, being bad at business, and left with single fatherhood.
 
Meriasek said:
Also, just to reiterate, ENT was cancelled too soon. It was just finding its pace and it should have gotten the usual seven seasons. T'pol was a blatant eye-candy introduction, but the character was also pretty funny at times and had pretty decent development.
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I'm of the opposite opinion. I liked the episode of the week, humanity encountering things for the first time in space, Starfleet growing pains episodes the most. I lost interest when it got serious and tried to be DS9 with a more convoluted time travel plot. I like the exploration part of Star Trek.
 
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
I'm of the opposite opinion. I liked the episode of the week, humanity encountering things for the first time in space, Starfleet growing pains episodes the most. I lost interest when it got serious and tried to be DS9 with a more convoluted time travel plot. I like the exploration part of Star Trek.
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I mean, I liked those episodes, but I feel like they got more of a feel for the characters and what they wanted to do near the end. Not too keen on time travel plots myself.
 
Problem with ENT is that you got three people (Hoshi, Travis, Malcolm) on the bridge who are absolute wet blankets personality wise and generally not very interesting. It is the anti-DS9. Mirror Hoshi is kinda hot though.
Hell, I think the main MACO guy they introduce in S3 is more interesting than Malcolm ever was.

Trip is fine though, he's just a good ol' fried catfish loving boy who keeps the ship running and gets to fuck the alien women.
 
Honestly a post war Star Trek would be fantastic with the right writers to explore what happens after the major conflicts, the damage, the loss, the rebuilding, what it does to said governments, and how each culture and people copes. Very few people truly ever win wars as I say America was the only true victor in WW1 and WW2 because they weren't bombed to shit and didn't lose so many people. I wonder how the Federation would cope if it lost 3-7% of its population in a war and the psychological impacts would truly be.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
He fucks a White chick later on in the series.
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That's actually giving him too much credit, she dumped him 4 years earlier. She comes back and Travis thinks… maybe we should try again? And then it turns out she’s a mole for human-supremacists.

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Imagine being the actress and your agent’s like “great news, you booked Star Trek, you’re FWB with least liked character on the show and also a racist."
 
Gromit the Claymation Dog said:
Maybe Odo goes back to the Great Link for the season and only makes spot appearances, and now with Dominion space open there’s a lot of potential for meeting new races and getting back to exploring the galaxy. The massive power vacuum where the Dominion was could keep the politics and dynamics of the show strong too, like how the collapse of Cardassia left Bajoran space a mess but now it’s a whole quadrant.
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Erm, aschually... the Federation and allies defeated a stranded expeditionary force and its puppet collaborator Cardassian government (plus the Breen, for what little worth they turned out to be). The Dominion "homeland" was completely untouched and surely had a vast military unaffected by the war. The Federation is supremely lucky that Odo wasn't interested in vengeance for their genocide attempt on his people (and that they had the Sisko to put in a good word for them with the wormhole aliens, who can probably stop any future invasion attempts).

Ironically, this would make the Dominion the America of the galaxy after this war. Its industries and subject civilian populations are unharmed, its only casualties were expendable Jem'hadar and Vorta. If the Founders put their minds to it, they could probably economically dominate the alpha quadrant powers within a generation.

The Federation having to figure out how to win the peace after winning the war is a story I would be deeply interested in.
 
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Meriasek said:
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I like Claudia Black.

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I just think it’s novel that you don’t see a lot of Australian actors in space. Sci-fi is usually for Americans, Canadians, and maybe a British guy for flavor.

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The only other one I can think of is that woman from Battlestar Galactica: Razor. She was also on Farscape as one of those weird nurses Scorpius had.
 
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