Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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los pepes said:
I think that is not practical. They are bottled up inside a single solar system at the end. If Cardassia prime had enough resources to (own its own) outproduce the shipbuilding of the Federation and Klingons and Romulans, they would not have got buck broke in back to back wars against the Federation and then Klingons. You can maybe handwave some of that away with superior Dominion tech, but it's not magic. They are still resource bound like everyone else. Yes they would rebuild their fleet and it would be even more painful to conquer the longer it went on, but there's no way in hell they could use the resources of a single world to produce more ships than the ~150-200 worlds the Fed/Klingon/Romulans were producing in total war mode.
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They do have the resources by using all of Cardassia. In which it was implied in the episode on why the Fed, Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians had to go in and finish the fight now. Instead of letting the Dominion and Breen stewed in there. Worst case for the Dominion is it will conquer a lot of systems, disassembled the worlds and moons for more resources to build more shipyards and ships. And rinse and repeat as needed to kill everyone and everything in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants.
 
Captain Syrup said:
Ghosts!

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Now stop.... Candle Time!
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los pepes said:
I think that is not practical. They are bottled up inside a single solar system at the end. If Cardassia prime had enough resources to (own its own) outproduce the shipbuilding of the Federation and Klingons and Romulans, they would not have got buck broke in back to back wars against the Federation and then Klingons. You can maybe handwave some of that away with superior Dominion tech, but it's not magic. They are still resource bound like everyone else. Yes they would rebuild their fleet and it would be even more painful to conquer the longer it went on, but there's no way in hell they could use the resources of a single world to produce more ships than the ~150-200 worlds the Fed/Klingon/Romulans were producing in total war mode.
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It's even outright stated in the lore and backstory that Cardassia was resource poor, which is why they went to conquer and enslave the Bajorans. (This is me agreeing with you even harder.)
 
The way Seaquest totally ignored plausibility in order to work submarines into every kind of story imaginable was impressive. I remember one which was a Law & Order style riff on the Candelaria Massacre in which the Brazilian government has a genocidal hatred of children and the only way to get them to safety was to use a submarine.

Also, when I was a kid I thought that Darwin was real.
 
Captain Syrup said:
Zhaan bought the farm. The show was never the same after that. Even if they had let Virginia keep her hair, she was still getting poisoned by the makeup. Tragic.
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I tried to watch it again recently and that's where I gave up as well. I just get tired of the dour tone and how everyone does nothing but snip and yell at each other and be sad. Jesus, give us a little bit of optimism. I love Rigel and love looking at prime Claudia Black but even they couldn't keep me watching.

So now I'm in my rewatch of TNG and on the very special terrorism episode where the naive Federation learns why you kill terrorists and can't peacefully discuss your way out of all problems. Of course they pull the European move of "we'll give you whatever you want in return for the hostages" which is why so many were taken in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
hahaha holy shit apparently Marshall Islands made stamps of this
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Awwww they even have one for Reg. And they missed the chance to make the Tasha Yar one a skeleton cat.

Captain Syrup said:
SeaQuest also had:
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It's such a bummer that Jonathan Brandis killed himself and yet Wil Wheaton still walks among us. He was a good little actor and a staple of 90s kids movies. If he had held on just a little longer, the nostalgia and convention wave would have provided a nice living. He was in a bunch of iconic shit that nerds love. Neverending Story, IT, Seaquest.

It always bugged me how quickly Picard would give up his crewmembers to the demands of crazy governments on flimsy charges. "Yes we must be supremely differential to other cultures and their differences but never ask them to respect our own"
 
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WhatIsThePunchline said:
Star Trek the Motion picture premiered 10 years after TOS

In a better world we could have had Voyager the motion picture, DS9 the motion picture a decade and a half ago.
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Speaking of things that it is too late for, any of you watch Firefly?

I've never seen that one either, but I hear nothing but good things.
 
Firefly doesn't hold up well. The premise is really good, the cast is great, the production is great, but the writing is cringe. Joss Whedon hadn't quite shaken off his Buffy writing and directing style. It's very much a product of its time.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Firefly doesn't hold up well. The premise is really good, the cast is great, the production is great, but the writing is cringe. Joss Whedon hadn't quite shaken off his Buffy writing and directing style. It's very much a product of its time.
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I've been afraid to rewatch Firefly for this reason. I last watched through it around 2008 or 2009. I think I'll let my memories remain good ones...
 
Welf Welf said:
I've been afraid to rewatch Firefly for this reason. I last watched through it around 2008 or 2009. I think I'll let my memories remain good ones...
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Some episodes hold up better than others. Serenity is still good if you can get past Summer Glau being a twig that somehow beats up hordes of dudes thrice her size (again: product of its time).
 
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Dragged Into Sunlight said:
Of course they pull the European move of "we'll give you whatever you want in return for the hostages" which is why so many were taken in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Sorry, I don’t speak chud. Can you say that again? The lesson from Iraq and Afghanistan is ... ?
we'll give you whatever you want
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We installed glowie puppet governments and occupied them for 10 to 20 years. Shock and awe, Abu Ghraib, drone strikes.
Welf Welf said:
I've been afraid to rewatch Firefly for this reason. I last watched through it around 2008 or 2009. I think I'll let my memories remain good ones...
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It's just another one season flop. They axed it for good reason.

But if you are a big Nathan Fillion stan... He was perfectly cast and charming as hell as the roguish space captain. He was acting as balls off in the film, too.
 
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
I tried to watch it again recently and that's where I gave up as well. I just get tired of the dour tone and how everyone does nothing but snip and yell at each other and be sad. Jesus, give us a little bit of optimism. I love Rigel and love looking at prime Claudia Black but even they couldn't keep me watching.
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This one’s tricky. I remember watching that Peacekeeper Wars TV movie they made, and it felt... not bad exactly, everyone was staying in character. But the tone...

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I dunno what happened behind the scenes, maybe they wanted to send it off on a high note. Or maybe after getting canceled they got scared. Peacekeeper Wars has way more in common with Star Trek than the actual Farscape series. The show was like Mad Max.
 
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