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Babylon 5 was more influenced by the Lord of the Rings than Star Trek.
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This is a screencap from the teaser of part one of the SEASON (not series) finale of Picard.
Hey remember when Species 8472 built a functioning replica of Starfleet Academy in the Delta Quadrant, and shapeshifted into Human bodies?
It goes out of its way to hit you with LOTR allegories at times. Hell what we got to see of the Earth Alliance Civil War in the 4th season may as well have been the Scouring of the Shire, right down to heroes coming back from an adventure and learning that their homeland was severely fucked and didn't know anything about what they'd been doing.
Hey remember when Species 8472 built a functioning replica of Starfleet Academy in the Delta Quadrant, and shapeshifted into Human bodies?
It goes out of its way to hit you with LOTR allegories at times. Hell what we got to see of the Earth Alliance Civil War in the 4th season may as well have been the Scouring of the Shire, right down to heroes coming back from an adventure and learning that their homeland was severely fucked and didn't know anything about what they'd been doing.
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Quick, somebody call Mr. Boothby, he knows how to deal with weeds.This is a screencap from the teaser of part one of the SEASON (not series) finale of Picard.
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Actually, this is somethng I joke about. There was supposed to be a fifth founding race, but they got cut out of ENT. It could be because they might've been considered too generic, or even offensive. If you've seen TOS: Return to Babel, these guys were wandering around.
So you have the Federation of the Rings. Humans, High Elves (Vulcans), Wood Elves (Andorians), Dwarves (Tellarites), and Hobbits (some sources call them Ithenites, otherwise they're just 'Copper-skinned aliens'.
It's unlikey it was LotR inspired, but I giggle that the hobbits being cut from ENT as a founding race sad.
This is why if I somehow got the greenlight to write a show, I'd do it more like the tepid Avenue 5 (worth a watch, but Hugh Laurie doesn't always sell it). A luxury cruiser that explores all the founding races' cultures and quirks more and more and find why the hell they're cohesive unites in the Federation.[/spoiler][/spoiler]
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You know Star Trek Picard is trying too hard at being mature and failing badly when even known notorious edgelord Johnen Vazquez, creator of Invader Zim and Johnny the homicidal maniac, is the voice of reason and he thinks you're going too far with the edge:
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And if you catch it, he's having that conversation with GIR, too.You know Star Trek Picard is trying too hard at being mature and failing badly when even known notorious edgelord Johnen Vazquez, creator of Invader Zim and Johnny the homicidal maniac, is the voice of reason and he thinks you're going too far with the edge:
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If there's one thing I liked about Zim was the Irkan Armada ships. They had a really cool aesthetic.
Are people just not wanting the Federation to be optimistic anymore? I mean, sure they had asshole admirals by the dozens, but the plots usually were about stopping them from ruining the optimism.
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This bullshit triggers me:
Hurr durr, let's use a 3d printer as a prop for a replicator including lead screw and guide for a moving printer head even though it's all done by an energy ray that doesn't move. And an enclosure that replicators never needed.
Why would you do this? It makes no sense and replicators are such a well-established Star Trek thing. Everyone in the world will understand what it is without making it look like a 3d printer.
The worst part of it is that I just know the retard behind this thought he was clever for doing this nonsense.
Hurr durr, let's use a 3d printer as a prop for a replicator including lead screw and guide for a moving printer head even though it's all done by an energy ray that doesn't move. And an enclosure that replicators never needed.
Why would you do this? It makes no sense and replicators are such a well-established Star Trek thing. Everyone in the world will understand what it is without making it look like a 3d printer.
The worst part of it is that I just know the retard behind this thought he was clever for doing this nonsense.
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I don't understand the thought process behind those creative decisions. Why not make a box out of plywood (like any other tv show) instead of wasting a ton of cash on several 3D printers that aren't even "Trekified" (no LCARs on a small LCD screen or a Starfleet insigna on one side of the device)?
That "3D printer" laser effect was introduced in STD, I don't know why they can't just use a similar effect to the one from the Berman era.
I like that you guys recapping don't bother with spoiler tags, because nobody is concerned about spoilers in this garbage show. I stopped watching this after the casino episode, but still had some hope that it could get better. It sounds like it's getting worse than I actually thought was possible. Wasn't Discovery season 2 all about how the AI was going to destroy all sentient life, and now we have a series where (thing) is going to destroy all organic life.. very original.
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There's nothing to actually spoil. Nothing matters.
It's a bunch of character tropes running around following a trail of breadcrumbs and reacting to them, then moving on to the next set piece. The motivations change every episode.
They've managed to make an both episodic show with no satisfying conclusions, and a serial with no interesting overall story.
I don't even know how the fuck that happens. Even with fucking Discovery I was at least semi-curious to see what happened. How in the everloving fuck do they make a post-TNG show with $10 million an episode, and make Star Trek just plain fucking boring?
I can go dumpster diving in Netflix filler trash and still be curious how it ends and hope a character doesn't die.
How did they get me, a Trek fan since the 80s that grew up with TNG, to not even give a fuck about what happens to Picard? Have some resurrected Data blow him up next episode and who fucking cares any more?
Captain fucking Picard is on fucking TV again and I'm just drinking booze and browsing coronavirus news and not even paying attention half the time.
How the fuck are they making something so shit?
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So I guess Picard is going to manage to beat STD’s winged Iron Man suit season finale for “really stupid and out of place thing” for its universe.
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I forget why but i get the star trek.com email letter in my spam folder. Today... they made me do a double take.
Just... just no. Don't take the bad episode seriously.
Just... just no. Don't take the bad episode seriously.
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Having just read the last several pages, read an interview with Patrick Stewart, and listened to several reviews from sources I actually trust to not have shit taste, all I can say is... what the fuck? This shit isn't Star Trek. It's more like Solar Travels, or Space Journey. It's a knockoff.
What's worse is that Patrick Stewart seems to be continuing the ruination of Star Trek for his own political reasons, by his own admission.
Sad, sad times we live in when a respected Shakespearean thespian proves himself utterly unprincipaled and willing to ruin someone else's legacy for his own selfish reasons. Gene Roddenberry deserved better.
What's worse is that Patrick Stewart seems to be continuing the ruination of Star Trek for his own political reasons, by his own admission.
Sad, sad times we live in when a respected Shakespearean thespian proves himself utterly unprincipaled and willing to ruin someone else's legacy for his own selfish reasons. Gene Roddenberry deserved better.
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I realize that it's the pinnacle of very, very late Gen X to ask the question you've asked, but here we are. Why is it that I am annoyed that I've watched some of the episodes of this sober?
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I can't imagine watching *any* of the shit that passes for entertainment today while sober...
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It's simple really.
You don't care about the characters. And to be honest, neither do I, or most people for that matter. The issue isn't just the overarching plot being boring, because TNG could make you have fun and care about people doing Smalltalk.
Heck one of Star Trek's best episodes, which even inspired this spinoff, is literally around 5 talking in a table. No flashy special effects, genocidal robots, borg cubes, or end of the world scenarios.
While TNG made an effort to earn your love for the characters, ST; Picard feels entitled to it and it assumes you already should love their characters because they cried or are part of an oppressed group (in-universe).
All the characters that debuted on this show are plain unlikeable, boring and one dimensional. It's so bad, that the villains actually make more sense, and there are little reasons to root for the "heroes".
As for Picard, he is basically a walking survivor's guilt syndrome. Instead of actually saving humanity and the federation from its falter on its ideals, he is only interested in saving this show's Mary Sue.
This is the saddest part of all. When I heard Patrick Stewart described Brexit and Trump, as "dark times" I lost a lot of respect about him.
Not because of his political choices, really doesn't matter if you agree or not with him, but because he seems blind to actual suffering. Calling "Dark times" not getting his way in politics is just a tantrum. Living in dark times are those people having harsh times at homes with abusive families, or feel like there's no hope for tomorrow, or felt like weirdos or that they never fitted in until someone like Data inspired them. You know the people that made this franchise last for more than half a century.
Dark times are those that we are living now. Even if you think it won't be a big deal, in the long run, it is dark because a lot of people are scared. Lots of people are losing their jobs, the economy is taking a hit, and people need hope more than ever.
And when we needed words of hope from an optimistic show, and its hero that just returned: Jean Luc Picard... he lets us down.
But I don't blame the Picard of TNG, but the people behind this show that replaced him with a cheap imitation of him.
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Psst... his name is Patrick Stewart, not Patrick Steward... But otherwise I agree with almost everything else that you said.
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Ironically Stewart grew up in an abusive household, you'd think he would know better.
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I think it was in a review of something else (I want to say War of the Worlds 2005), but the reviewer talked about how much 9/11 and the War on Terror changed the action and sci-fi genres. It made people believe that there is no hope for a utopian future and that humanity will always be shitty towards one another, thus bringing rise to the dark and gritty entertainment that has defined the 21st century. That's why the idealism of Star Trek has collapsed in the last ten years.
Also, you know, hack frauds.
Also, you know, hack frauds.