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Stolen from the RLM thread.
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L50LasPak said:
Eh, to be fair at least he said he watched both TOS and TNG too. It seems like every Trek fan has skipped at least one series.
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I've seen everything up to the first season of STD, and refuse to watch Picard. So yeah, I've "technically" skipped a series, but that's not the same thing to me as skipping one of the classic ones.
 
Flexo said:
Stolen from the RLM thread.
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Wait, how is Seven a mass murderer? Because she killed a bunch of murdering, torturing criminals?

I mean, it's not ordinary Star Trek morality, I agree, but contextually I'm not going to hold that scene against her.

And as much as I don't think his character works for Star Trek, Romulass isn't a psychopath. Emotionally stunted and damaged, yes, but not a psychopath.
 
Intelligent Calcium said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8lQ1XIrXjlsThere's an episode I never expected anyone to revisit.
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Probably one of the only times someone will make a video inspired by corona-chan that won't devolve to a preachy speech about orange man. I don't know why he doesn't like DS9 though but in my experience you either think it's some of the best trek out there, it is, or you hate it and skip it entirely.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
Since this is a Star Trek thread his book on The City on the Edge of Forever is a good read, and would have made a much better episode of the TV show than what we got.
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This always amazes me, as that's quite possibly the best episode of Star Trek in the entirety of the franchise. And it could have been better by sticking to Harlan's script.
 
Robert James said:
Probably one of the only times someone will make a video inspired by corona-chan that won't devolve to a preachy speech about orange man. I don't know why he doesn't like DS9 though but in my experience you either think it's some of the best trek out there, it is, or you hate it and skip it entirely.
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He didn't even say he didn't like it. He just said he skipped it, and gave no reason... Which I respect a hell of a lot less than somebody who watched DS9 and didn't care for it.
 
trekkor said:
Why the fuck did everyone just forgive Agnes for killing Maddox? Did everyone forget she did that? I understand being forgiving of being a spy since the Shutterstock images put in her head fucked her up a bit, but she still chose to kill Maddox. And the latter wasn't a bad guy.
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Flexo said:
Stolen from the RLM thread.
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If you think about it, the morality on the show is messed up and it's just based on whether or not you are part of Picard's "crew" or not.
  • Agnes killing Maddox? She was just a poor victim that was scared.
  • Soji's Romulan boyfriend tried to save the galaxy by killing the person that almost literally killed every nonartificial sentient being in the galaxy= He is scum and we should be cheering on Rafi for talking him down. Because, like in every SJW show ever, being mean to the local Mary Sue is worse than genocide.

To be honest, the only thing the Romulans did wrong was killing Hugh, everything else, if you think about it, was completely justified. I'm not even memeing in a " Dukaat did nothing wrong way".

The androids literally almost wiped every living being on the galaxy. Isn't it scary how little they hesitated about it?

All Picard did was get obsessed with Data's daughter all while putting the whole galaxy at risk while he was at it. Think about it. Had he died before he convinced Soji to shut that thing down, or failed to convince her, he, by doing this whole mission, would've killed every non-synth in the galaxy.

Even Borg assimilation would've been a better fate than that.

Aqua Panda said:
That stuff in the end with Data was some amazing stuff and IMO the needed closure that the characters never got in Nemesis.
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I dunno. I'm still watching TNG so I'm not super attached to him, but I think it was a bit of a downer. A lot of people felt identified with Data due to his social awkwardness.

Wouldn't it be depressing to know that your hero, instead of having a heroic sacrifice, just decided to kill himself?

Don't get me wrong, I get the idea of mortality giving value to life argument and Brent Spiner not wanting to do the makeup anymore, but it just feels wrong.
 
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Clown College said:
So here's a question if the synths in picard are supposed to represent migrants, illegal aliens or something like that. Who were the highly evolved reapers I mean synths that existed outside of time and space supposed to be? They were described as would be saviors to the oppressed synths but I'm having trouble correlating them to a real life group. Are they just bog standard liberals, globalists, and whatnot or some other specific group?
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I don't think there's an obvious comparison, maybe how immigrants will eventually lash out for their abuse but even that's a stretch

I think they're just bad writters and had no idea where they were going to with this. I mean they took a story from a video game which everyone thought was bad.
 
Is the message of Picard that Muslims are an existential threat to Western Civilization, but we'll keep importing them to benefit wealthy, old, white people? Pretty red pilled.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
The biggest question about Picard is why is Data's makeup worse than on TNG?
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Presumably because Brent Spiner is now in his 70s but he's supposed to be playing the same unaging android he was in 1987. I'm not sure if bad makeup and digital de-aging in post is a better or worse solution to the issue than the goofy "oh yeah Terminators get old btw" alternative.

I guess theoretically they could also just make something new people want to watch, instead of dragging geriatric actors out of their retirement homes for terrible unwanted/unneeded sequels that will be forgotten in a year, and avoid the issue entirely. But that sounds like a lot of work.
 
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