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ZMOT said:
what is this timeline where a parody is better trek than the official shit?
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The timeline where the official shit is being made by people who hate the series and the parodies are being made by people who sincerely love it.
 
I'm laboriously making my way through the free episode of Lower Decks, and so far the biggest criticism I can level at the show is that I fucking despise both Ensign Drunk Black Chick On Crack and Ensign Dipshit. The Orion chick is actually a stereotypical excited keet girl who I would normally heavily dislike as well because I despise cliches but she's like the only relatable character so far. I feel like I've just started my first day at an office job and I'm already picking and choosing the people I can barely tolerate over the people I fucking hate. I watch or read fiction specifically to avoid that exact feeling, so this show is a gigantic failure straight out of the gate.

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Are they literally making the fucking sand joke from Star Wars? Really?

Its interesting to have Ensign Dipshit assigned to spy on the Captain's own daughter. Its like even she wants to get rid of Ensign Cracked Out Drunk too.

I notice they reused the buggy from Nemesis. Real smooth. I guess it fits if they're going to have a premise this retarded.

As I had guessed ahead of time I find the mean bitch catlady doctor to be the most entertaining character. Taking a space catgirl and making her a gnarled old bat with a rude attitude was probably the smartest and most nuanced choice they made in the whole show.

Ensign Black Chick has her uniform splayed open partially to show off her cleavage, but I wonder if some nerd on the staff intended that as a reference to the Wrath of Khan uniforms which also splayed open to the left. Either way it looks out of place.

Aaaaand reference whirlwind at the end. I hate this show.
 
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L50LasPak said:
I'm laboriously making my way through the free episode of Lower Decks, and so far the biggest criticism I can level at the show is that I fucking despise both Ensign Drunk Black Chick On Crack and Ensign Dipshit. The Orion chick is actually a stereotypical excited keet girl who I would normally heavily dislike as well because I despise cliches but she's like the only relatable character so far. I feel like I've just started my first day at an office job and I'm already picking and choosing the people I can barely tolerate over the people I fucking hate. I watch or read fiction specifically to avoid that exact feeling, so this show is a gigantic failure straight out of the gate.

Edit:

Are they literally making the fucking sand joke from Star Wars? Really?

Its interesting to have Ensign Dipshit assigned to spy on the Captain's own daughter. Its like even she wants to get rid of Ensign Cracked Out Drunk too.

I notice they reused the buggy from Nemesis. Real smooth. I guess it fits if they're going to have a premise this retarded.

As I had guessed ahead of time I find the mean bitch catlady doctor to be the most entertaining character. Taking a space catgirl and making her a gnarled old bat with a rude attitude was probably the smartest and most nuanced choice they made in the whole show.

Ensign Black Chick has her uniform splayed open partially to show off her cleavage, but I wonder if some nerd on the staff intended that as a reference to the Wrath of Khan uniforms which also splayed open to the right. Either way it looks out of place.

Aaaaand reference whirlwind at the end. I hate this show.
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Free or not, it's safe to drop this show by now. You're not going to miss anything.
 
So it's a slow night at work and I'm spending the tax payers money watching DS9, which I've not really watched since I was a literal child in the 90s, and even then only sporadically...

I'm on the first episode and I just wanted to comment on how real that hostility Sisko has for Picard is. It's borderline insubordination almost and holy shit do you feel it. I just gotta give props for Avery Brooks emoting like that. The look on Patrick Stewart's face the whole scene is great because Picard knows that Sisko's hostility is entirely justified once he mentions that he was on the Saratoga. Just an amazing scene all around and I hope there are more like it.
 
Well that's what you get when you cast actual actors and not just skin colors and diversity types.

The casting lead for TNG once said in an interview that she preferred to hire theatre actors especially Shakespearian types because they knew how to delivery weighty lines without turning into ham. Lending depth and gravity to even the silliest
techno-babble.

TNG used a rather formal speech mode for a tv show. Few contractions, no swears or exclamations to better show how much humanity had matured over the centuries.

Contrast that to nu-trek...
 
White Devil said:
So it's a slow night at work and I'm spending the tax payers money watching DS9, which I've not really watched since I was a literal child in the 90s, and even then only sporadically...

I'm on the first episode and I just wanted to comment on how real that hostility Sisko has for Picard is. It's borderline insubordination almost and holy shit do you feel it. I just gotta give props for Avery Brooks emoting like that. The look on Patrick Stewart's face the whole scene is great because Picard knows that Sisko's hostility is entirely justified once he mentions that he was on the Saratoga. Just an amazing scene all around and I hope there are more like it.
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You are in for a treat as the series progresses.
 
Back in the 1960s, it was believable that in the 23rd century, computers would still be mostly blinking lights and buttons. If the ST timeline were real now, it'd be smartphones and 2020 PCs evolving into blinking lights somehow, then back to touchscreens.
 
Sweet and Savoury said:
Well that's what you get when you cast actual actors and not just skin colors and diversity types.

The casting lead for TNG once said in an interview that she preferred to hire theatre actors especially Shakespearian types because they knew how to delivery weighty lines without turning into ham. Lending depth and gravity to even the silliest
techno-babble.

TNG used a rather formal speech mode for a tv show. Few contractions, no swears or exclamations to better show how much humanity had matured over the centuries.

Contrast that to nu-trek...
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I swear to god, when I first saw that white-haired chick from STP using the word "fucking", I almost had an aneurysm... it's still something that pisses me off.
It's just so... utterly cringey. The writers genuinely seem to think that swearing makes their show mature. It's the most childish thing I've ever seen.

ToroidalBoat said:
Back in the 1960s, it was believable that in the 23rd century, computers would still be mostly blinking lights and buttons. If the ST timeline were real now, it'd be smartphones and 2020 PCs evolving into blinking lights somehow, then back to touchscreens.
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As @Stab You in the Back pointed out, modern warships still use rather primitive technology themselves, in many cases due to reliability aspects... I think you could always handwave this pretty easily in ST by saying that the circuitry has to be hardened against space anomalies like ion storms and other technobabble, so they seem primitive but really, they just got a shitton of power under the hood that we can't see, that is constantly used to control the warp core, the teleporter and so on.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
Back in the 1960s, it was believable that in the 23rd century, computers would still be mostly blinking lights and buttons. If the ST timeline were real now, it'd be smartphones and 2020 PCs evolving into blinking lights somehow, then back to touchscreens.
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There was an AI war between old, button-and-blinking-lights tech, vs Apple (tm) aesthetics and the former won. People accepted this without complaint and decided it looked better and cozier anyway, so why not.
This is canon to me at least and I will not hear any objections.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
I swear to god, when I first saw that white-haired chick from STP using the word "fucking", I almost had an aneurysm... it's still something that pisses me off.
It's just so... utterly cringey. The writers genuinely seem to think that swearing makes their show mature. It's the most childish thing I've ever seen.
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What if it had been Janeway instead?
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
What if it had been Janeway instead?
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I don't know if that would have made it worse or not. The use of swear words alone is so anathema to what I think of Star Trek, that I can't reconcile it with anyone from within Starfleet. But then again, Janeway is the one known for inconsistent writing, so there's that.
 
They must be advertising the fuck out of Lower Decks, my mom just texted me asking if I'd heard of it. I explained that I've heard of it existing but I've heard of food poisoning existing too.
 
Maybe they feel LD is their last grasp and are appealing to the R&M crowd since Disco and Picard are fucking shit failures.
 
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