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White Devil said:
I've read before that Brooks can be a massive diva so I'm willing to bet it's him.
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Got any examples? im curious.
Blamo said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NGYxY5TTr6AThere are some comfy interviews from 1994, for anybody interested.
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Deforest always seemed like a rather wholesome guy. The story's I read of him brushing off his admirers and sticking to his wife were sweet.
 
Blamo said:
Some say that the Biography written about him, From Sawdust to Stardust: The Biography of DeForest Kelley is a good read.
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That's a rog. De's bookis great and Shatners memory books are essential and hilarious stuff. Dekelley.jpg
 
Whoever said:
I'm trying to rewatch DS9 for the first time since I was a kid and knowing about all the back stage stuff and Avery Brooks being an asshole to everyone has kind of poisoned it from the get go. At least when I watch TNG I forget that the movies and the Picard show exist.
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So why did they change Sisko's actor to him part way through?

JamesFargo said:
I do miss the asymmetrical uniforms they wore. Sort of reminds me of the Vorta costume.
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Were romulan people ever revealed in TOS? I don't think they were until TNG IIRC.
 
Autistic AT-ST said:
So why did they change Sisko's actor to him part way through?
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They didn't. You're thinking of Voyager.

Autistic AT-ST said:
Were romulan people ever revealed in TOS? I don't think they were until TNG IIRC.
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Yes, they were introduced in TOS. According to canon, the Federation never got a glimpse of the Romulans' faces during the war. They always wore helmets.

Hence why ENT had such a difficult time with the Romulans. They could never share a screen with Archer.
 
Vancouver Terry Bollea said:
They had at least four different ppl audition
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It was way more than that, if Avery can be believed. At a convention appearance (the one with Cirroc and Terry), he says there were a hundred people auditioning from all over the world, including one guy from Belgium. Looks like Sisko was not explicitly written to be black.
 
Oats12345 said:
With how insane most star trek franchise actors have turn out to be. One has to wonder with the stories of Shatner and Brooks acting like assholes to a certain actors who would later proved to be assholes themselves. One has to wonder if those were justified incidents.
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I cannot seem to find the "Raw Nerve" episode where Shatner interviews Walter Konenig. If you find it I do recommend watching it as it reveals Shatner was not exactly the diva/asshole we have come to know and love. There is one moment when Walter recollects when Shatner did, in fact go to the writers to give him more lines for quite a few episodes..and they did give him more lines. This meant the supporting cast got mostly or entirely shut out of epsiodes. Walter realized years after that he never spoke up to stop that. Shatner said that he's pretty sure if Walter came up to him and said: "Cut the shit out, Bill" - he would have. But no one spoke up until well after the chance to do so.

That moment was rather illuminating as I suspect Shatner and Brooks had similar takes on the show...

Just something to think about.
 
Kornula said:
Shatner said that he's pretty sure if Walter came up to him and said: "Cut the shit out, Bill" - he would have.
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Difficult leading men: they have to be the big swinging dick on the set, stealing lines, throwing scripts at peoples' heads. Until finally, one of the co-stars has had it. Louise Jameson is a famous case.

It's a big risk to take. Like, you would never stand up to a middle manager at your shitty-ass job. Nine times out of ten you'd be out on your ass.
 
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JamesFargo said:
I've read similar stories about Doctor Who. Another show with a parade of difficult leading men.

They have to be the big swinging dick on the set, stealing lines, getting drunk, throwing scripts at peoples' heads and calling it "whippet shit." Until finally, one of the co-stars has had it. Louise Jameson is a famous case. Tom tried to bully her off the show. But she grew a spine and told him off in front of everyone. Only then did he show courtesy.

It's a big risk to take. Like, you would never stand up to a middle manager at your shitty-ass job. Nine times out of ten you'd be out on your ass.
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Shatner responded to Koneig's take on not saying anything 50 years ago... that most people do not do a 180 turn.. Shatner stated that if Walter had said "cut the shit out, Bill" 50 years ago.. he would have.
 
It's the annoying dissonance people now have towards celebrities. They're just people reading other people's words. They're fantastic at that job, but that doesn't give them any special insight in anything that ISN'T acting.

Ancient Rome was correct; treat them like prostitutes.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
It's the annoying dissonance people now have towards celebrities. They're just people reading other people's words. They're fantastic at that job, but that doesn't give them any special insight in anything that ISN'T acting.

Ancient Rome was correct; treat them like prostitutes.
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Actors generally have less insight into anything that doesn't involve reading a script than cab drivers or hairdressers or guys who work on a landfill. For one thing, most of them are a lot dumber and less emotionally mature (normal people grow out of being attention-craving narcissists who like to play dress up by the age of 7).

For another, they're living in the fakest and gayest bubble known to humanity - the entertainment industry. Which has always been a notoriously wretched hive of scum and villainy.

The Buddha says that actors will be reincarnated as animals or go to Hell, which is pretty based and/or dharmapilled if you ask me.

Not Bill Shatner obviously, because he's a pretty cool guy.
 
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