Star Wars is and has always been a shitty series. - Even the original trilogy.

Dr. Henry Armitage said:
I think a lot of the star wars hype is nostalgia. I had never seen any star wars movie until a few months ago. I got together with some friends and we watched the original trilogy. Before the movies they were super hyped and telling me how good they were. After I told them I didn't really like the movies and they all said yeah I can see why. I remembered them being a lot better.
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They’ve got a lot of cool shit in them that sticks with you, from characters, to locales, to production design. Everything about them is designed to pull you into the world, and the original trilogy succeeded at that the best. You don’t remember the films, you remember the feel; you remember the Tatooine heat in the dusty streets of Mos Eisley, or the shaking of an X-Wing cockpit blasting across the starfield. You remember Luke’s courage and optimism, Leia’s pluck and Han’s roguish charm.

There’s a reason they had the impact they did when they came out. My dad saw A New Hope dozens of times; his friends would buy tickets to the earliest showtime and then hide from the ushers between screenings.

That’s the magic of Star Wars; the films themselves are flawed as fuck, but they did have heart and that’s what makes the nostalgia so potent. I do think it goes deeper than “I liked this thing when I was younger”.
 
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the OT movies were fun adventure films in a unique and new setting (at the time)
the prequel movies were great nerd fodder and expanded on the setting in many cool ways (and some dumb ways)
the sequel moves are shit surviving solely on nostalgia bait

MrTroll said:
I still say Hayden Christensen should have been nominated for an Oscar for Attack of the Clones (the only good SW movie). Man, what a performance.
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all the hate he gets is undeserved. his performance was good in both movies, it's not his fault that the writers gave him retarded lines about sand
 
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Tour of Italy said:
They’ve got a lot of cool shit in them that stick with you, from characters, to locales, to production design. Everything about them is designed to pull you into the world, and the original trilogy succeeded at that the best. You don’t remember the films, you remember the feel; you remember the Tatooine heat in the dusty streets of Mos Eisley, or the shaking of an X-Wing cockpit blasting across the starfield. You remember Luke’s courage and optimism, Leia’s pluck and Han’s roguish charm.
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Most of all, I remember that Greedo shot first and anyone who says different is lying.
 
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I think what made the original films groundbreaking was their visual effects. On both a conceptual and narrative level however, they were mostly campy and facile.

The most glaring problem throughout the entire series, in my view, is the clumsy and reductive way that it tries to parse the dichotomy between good and evil. Characters are seen to make the switch to 'the dark side', but their motivations for doing so are never properly explored. It is implied that the Empire rules through fear, but this still wouldn't explain why people are drawn to sympathize with it in the first place. Where does it's support base come from if it is supposedly so reviled?
 
It's always been a toy commercial, that's for sure. Also, I'd rather watch the 2 new Disney movies than any of the prequels. The prequels are direct-to-DVD quality shit.
 
If you ignore the fact that the entire series is a talmudic parable about the chosen people of god Force called Judah Jedi trying to a multicultural cast of characters to violently enforce their moralist fantasies over everyone in the galaxy, all the miniature spaceships in the original trilogy are neatly designed.

Of course the epitome of "war in space" genre is Starship Troopers, a film that is objectively million times better than Star Wars.
 
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Rogue Squadron and TESB are the only features that still stand out to me without nostalgia playing a part. Darth Bane was a fun romp, whenever that Jedi rabbit wasn't mucking up the pacing.
 
Ihavetinyweewee said:
This, one of the more obnoxious aspects.

Star Wars is the "go to" for the "fake geek girl". The lowest bar of entry of any genre property...

It's probably why Star Wars fandom is the worst one. It's the worst of everything in 'geek culture'. Everything is represented..
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The entire fandom are speds who won't let pop funkos die off. They try to belittle anyone with no interest in the story "how do you not like star wars?! You're a fake geek and don't understand the cultural impact of the SW mythos! ! !" as if wanting to be a geek is a goal to strive for.
The only thing it impacted was how much effects go into new sci-fi films and creating a cesspool of the cringiest autistics imaginable.
 
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Niggernerd said:
The entire fandom are speds who won't let pop funkos die off. They try to belittle anyone with no interest in the story "how do you not like star wars?! You're a fake geek and don't understand the cultural impact of the SW mythos! ! !" as if wanting to be a geek is a goal to strive for.
The only thing it impacted was how much effects go into new sci-fi films and creating a cesspool of the cringiest autistics imaginable.
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I have affection for Star Wars. But, talking to these dickwads, it's like they have never seen a movie, prior to 1977...

That or have read few books out of "Harry Potter." It's pretty much the same thing with the MCU as well. But, currently, they have better quality control.

I just think our culture is in a collective rut. The infantilization of grown fucking adults. It's nice to revist these things(on occasion), but that's all we're producing nowadays....
 
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The only thing I liked about Star Wars was the Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy game.
 
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Well no, I think the original trilogy is great.

That said, Star Wars is not my favorite thing ever like it is for some people, there's many other things I feel more passionate about, even within the realm of movies I prefer Spielberg at his best, like Jaws, Jurassic Park and Raiders of The Lost Ark, so Star Wars isn't even my favorite Lucas thing.

But nevertheless I love it, the sometimes cheesy vibe is just part of the charm.
 
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Supposedly one of the major reasons for the initial popularity was the timing. They were coming out at the tail end of the post-Vietnam, post-Watergate era of the 1970s when all the big movies were very cynical and bitter in tone for an entire decade, and the original Star Wars film was like the total opposite of that, a kind of palate cleanser. Apparently the timing was right, as the people were tired of the political/societal cynicism in movies and were hungry for fantastical escapism and simplistic fairy tale of good against evil.
 
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millais said:
Supposedly one of the major reasons for the initial popularity was the timing. They were coming out at the tail end of the post-Vietnam, post-Watergate era of the 1970s when all the big movies were very cynical and bitter in tone for an entire decade, and the original Star Wars film was like the total opposite of that, a kind of palate cleanser. Apparently the timing was right, as the people were tired of the political/societal cynicism in movies and were hungry for fantastical escapism and simplistic fairy tale of good against evil.
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It really helped to bring things back into perspective as we moved on.
 
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