Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

[gay]

I couldn't get this guy to give me the eye thing but the lighting really evokes Ape Escape

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someone check if A. Wyatt Mann is in the credits of Starfield.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

Oh boy. Whats even better is that this normal map has no blue channel, but its completely blank. They are straight up just not using 2/4 channels on a 1k BC5 texture.

Then they just have a completely separate texture for opacity, which is just this in red. This file is 682kb and is entirely pointless. I'm going through every channel and its as bad or worse than what I said before, the normal map is BC5 but the others are BC4 and the colour is DXT1. I don't understand any of this though process other than maybe they see the limited colour channels of specific compressions and think that will save them storage or something? It would still be so much better to pack everything down, and it would save time loading multiple textures and it would save VRAM, this is just incompetence at this point.

I think I might know why nothing is packed, there are telltale substance exported textures because of the infinite padding. Substance allows you to pack channels in the export menu but you have to manually set them all, the bethesda guys probably just hit the quick export textures button then compressed them down to DDS later.

I think the fact that Irfanview and Gimp both handle the missing blue channel different might be the result of them just eradicating an existing blue channel when they compressed it


Also this texture set is for gun attachments, and all the textures are 1k and the normal is full res.

They are using old ass compression

iirc, green gets the least amount of compression so using just the red channel is also

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Judging from the articles on the game, Starborn is the name of some kind of special group of humans apparently.

Spoiler

It may also feed into some idea of a power fantasy plot point.

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They literally just ripped off the Ancients from Stargate.

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

How come?

It's similar to why some people view Seinfeld as unfunny, most of the tropes it made they've seen in other media before interacting with Dune. Another similar case in sci-fi is Edgar Rice Burroughs' barsoom stuff. The things copying Dune have also been dumbed down for mass appeal.

 

[White Devil]

It's similar to why some people view Seinfeld as unfunny, most of the tropes it made they've seen in other media before interacting with Dune. Another similar case in sci-fi is Edgar Rice Burroughs' barsoom stuff. The things copying Dune have also been dumbed down for mass appeal.

What if you saw Seinfeld in it's original run and didn't find it funny then?

Good name drop on Burroughs. I wish the Taylor Kitsch adaptation hadn't bombed.

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

What if you saw Seinfeld in it's original run and didn't find it funny then?

I don't know, but it's the most prominent example of the trope I can think of.

Good name drop on Burroughs. I wish the Taylor Kitsch adaptation hadn't bombed.

It was always destined to bomb, it was the battleground of Disney and Pixar infighting. The director also had his first introduction to barsoom through marvel comics.

 

[Pissmaster]

One of the greatest TV shows ever vs. gay shit for depressed faggots?

 

[Night Crawler]

It's funny because the Digital Foundry video on it say's it's bug free and well optimised.

You have to be careful with Digital Foundry. They said the PC port of Red Dead 2 ran well. I preordered it. I can assure you it didn't. RDR2 was a mess at launch. Not the biggest mess ever released I think that still goes to Arkham Knight. But it was not well optimized it didn't run well and it had some issues. About a year later with a few patches a new GPU a new motherboard and CPU upgrade the game ran fine. Digital Foundry likes games that really use the hardware in their super nerd fag gaming rigs. They kind of get off on it I think. It helps them justify spending thousands of dollars on gaming PC's. It also caters to their main audience which is PC "enthusiast" which means someone with more money than sense. You know the whackos that upgrade their GPU every 2 years and are constantly switching out CPU's. The kind of people that like to flex by saying they managed to get their hands on that new $1,500 GPU that Nvidia just released. There are people with mid range and low end that watch the and they do good technical reviews of games even for consoles. But their main audience is like the upper class of the PC master race. It's not PC poor fags.

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

I'm sorry to break the news to you, but one of the Starborn you meet is a black man. Starborn are the people that collected all the artifacts and went to the center of the universe and travel to other universes.

Did you stay at the Lodge during the attack? I did and the black guy died. I wonder what happens if you go to The Eye?

Finished the Main Story last night.

Main Story
I don’t hate it. I’ve avoided spoilers so this could deteriorate rapidly. The main group you are a part of aren’t terribly annoying and the Slav woman seems a ok companion so far. This is a huge upgrade for me over Fallout 4, I really hated the minutemen. Got my first two powers. Unlimited sprint is meh, I guess the anti grav will be ok in combat but I haven’t used it yet.

The Starborn stuff is really bad ngl. In any future playthroughs I'm going to stop progressing the main quest just before they turn up which should still give me access to powers

Ship Builder
Haven’t done any yet, looking forward to trying it out. Hopefully Incan make some cool stuff along with a flying cock and balls.

Played with this a bit, I'm disappointed that you can't have your other sips off doing something useful to make money/resources while playing the game.
There is just about enough ship parts to be able to make some interesting stuff.
Has anyone found a way to rename your ship? Mine reverted to Pirate Ship on a game reload which was quite confusing.

Next play through I'm going to give piracy a whirl and take the trait that allies me with the faction.

 

[LightDragonman1]

So it seems like this game is more divisive than I was expecting. Some people are liking it, while others are the exact opposite.

For that matter, some have said that the later parts of the game manage to redeem the boring opening parts, but again, first impressions matter. When your game has an incredibly slow start (which apparently is the case for Starfield), it really needs to make up for it in the later sections.

 

[derpherp2]

Okay nevermind even ship building is retarded, there's only one method of traveling the Z-axis on your ship, and it's via ladders. The problem is there's no fucking indicator where the LADDERS GO. So you can build your ship into some linear cocklike object, and the ladders will randomly go up one floor, then down two, then up three, then down two, then somehow up five - clipping you out of the ship.


Also EVERY bug in Fallout 4 prepatches are here, ALL of them. The deathclaw/dragon analogue will "fly" via their ass, again. But it'll be hard to see because they "fly" underground.

 

[Wodanaz]

I read the first book of Dune and it was mind numbingly boring to me, I don't get why everything copies it recently. But to be entirely fair the whole finding an alien artifact to get FTL isn't new. 2001 did it as well

It's really a masterpiece of cultural and sociopolitical analysis. If you enjoy reading things like ISAIF then you'll enjoy Dune. Also 2001 came out after Dune, and Dune took everything from Foundation. Foundation is Dune but technical instead of spiritual.

And yet everything that "steals" from dune is twice as popular and successful. How come?

Because it's a lot easier for negro cattle to understand the character of Sheev Palpatine instead of Paul Atreides/Leto II. Or Luke Skywalker instead of Paul.

Uncounted numbers of ancestors all jockeying for control in your mind, making you the closest thing to a living god that humanity has ever seen, (like how computer systems such as wikipedia are revered as living gods now because they know everything) and committing to the ultimate sacrifice in order to avert disaster by enforcing tyrannical hydraulic despotism (like the US and its allies think they're doing), versus "I AM ALL THE SITH". One is a lot more marketable to a lot more people.

Good artists copy and great ones steal, it's true. Star Wars stole from Dune and Dune stole from Foundation, the trick is in the execution of your craft. Ideas are a dime a dozen but skill is required to pull them off. As evidenced by Starfield. All the ideas in the world but zero skill.

gay shit for depressed faggots?

>he doesn't know
Butlerian Jihad soon, friend. The Golden Path awaits.

 

[Soycast Guy]

Godd

Fixed

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The Reddit atheist plot is so ridiculous. Like the writers have a superiority inferiority complex with Christianity, but literally cannot write their alternative magic space game without flaying Christianity and replacing the skin with the dumbest and shallowest grasp of science possible, and tying it all together with fake spirituality.

 

[Kharash]

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This writing is seriously becoming Outer Worlds level, did Emil smoke something or did they hire a bunch of millennials?

We could only wish they hired some writers. Bethesda actually has no dedicated writers which is why retards like Emil are writing most of it. Back in Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim etc whoever designed a questline also wrote it. This worked 20 years ago for your small studio but when it's 2023 and you're bragging about how many voiced lines you have in your RPG in a world where movie games have become the norm it becomes very apparent that your writing is garbage.

 

[Wodanaz]

We could only wish they hired some writers. Bethesda actually has no dedicated writers which is why retards like Emil are writing most of it. Back in Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim etc whoever designed a questline also wrote it. This worked 20 years ago for your small studio but when it's 2023 and you're bragging about how many voiced lines you have in your RPG in a world where movie games have become the norm it becomes very apparent that your writing is garbage.

https://exputer.com/news/games/starfield-200-million-budget-500-devs/
>200 million on development
>200 million on marketing
>500 developers
>not one professional writer
Jesus wept

 

[derpherp2]

@Rick The Stick
While the whole paid mods thing was overblown the damage was done, The shift in attitude towards sharing materials changed overnight, some mods that were advertised in the original launch even used assets from other modders without permission which only worsened the response. As for "stealing" you had people reposting mods without credit and profiting from it in some ways, again a bit overblown but it pissed off modders.
Regardless of our feelings or opinions on the matter there has been a noticeable decrease in both quantity and quality of mods for Beth games after the paid mod drama, and with how Starfield has turned out, I can't imagine the herculean effort needed to polish this turd, and since this is a new IP you won't have as many people from previous games coming back to try and work on mods.

So far most of the mods are just .ini changes, save edits, and other things. We're deffo gonna needt a geck-analogue for this shit in comparison to the massive overhauls shit like solasta and bg3 has.

 

[Rotollo 2]

To anyone who has played Starfield so far, does the game deserve its $70 on release price tag?

Not really, the game isn't too much of a step foward. buy it on a key site like fanatical or some shit on discount

 

[Mega Black]

I really feel like the paid mods thing was completely overblown in hindsight

Absolutely not. What Bethesda wound up doing was utterly destroying a passionate and totally unique subculture that had sprung up around modding their game, exploiting and alienating everyone who wanted to create mods or download them. Like most passion projects, the second you introduce money it all goes to complete shit.

And the cut modders would get was ridiculously low. Most of the money was going straight to Bethesda/Valve

Honestly there wasn't enough blowback. Shit like the creation club should have gotten the same treatment.

 

[DogZero]

It's really a masterpiece of cultural and sociopolitical analysis. If you enjoy reading things like ISAIF then you'll enjoy Dune. Also 2001 came out after Dune, and Dune took everything from Foundation. Foundation is Dune but technical instead of spiritual.
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Please do not compare Dune to GURMS fetish cumrag fan fiction please. “ The more she drank…”
that is all.

oh Starfield. Oblivion is the worst elder scrolls, by a lot, morrowind is the best, F4 is somehow even worse than F3. However, Whoever wrote far harbour should be head writer at the company and kill emil “F3 story didn’t make sense on purpose” pagliorulo.

I didn’t get star field cus I had no faith in the exploration or the space combat. They should have made the game 5 handcrafted systems, with 3 unique actually warring factions controlling a system with two to fight over. Each celestial body should have served a tactical purpose in the solar system space flight, from gas giants, moons for blocking to asteroid fields filled with miner bases. Basically a denser and more meaningful but smaller world.

To fit the nasa punk aesthetic, going between the 5 Systems should have felt dangerous and hard, requiring little mechanic and maintenance mini games to keep your ship together. These would be automated mid to late game by crew but would make travel feel meaningful, an actual part of the game, and like you are barely keeping the ship together.