Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

[Problematic User Forever]

What the fuck? So I did Sarah's lovequest and brought home the little niglet next thing I know we're talking at the waterfall and we're dating. As soon as that dialogue is done she's talking about her parents and now we're getting married. This is worse than the fucking Serana Dialogue Add-on mod for Skyrim. The entirety of the dialogue and romance reeks of Skyrim tranny modders.

Yeah, same happened with me. It was so out of nowhere I didn't even realize there could be an actual marriage ceremony before the high stakes mission happened.

Other people have complained about it. It means you did *too* well at gaining her affinity and you basically maxed it out before you even got the loyalty quest.

It goes nicely with the trait where you have parents and they end up sending letters to Constellation before they even know you work there.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I decided I just wouldn't talk to anyone I could avoid talking to.

No, I don't want to hear about your gay bullshit.
No, I don't want to save your single mother bullshit.
Oh, fuck right off, depressing faggot.

Half the time I'm tempted to just shoot my way out of everything.

This story is fucking ass. I've read better scifi on Reddit.

Apparently a bunch of fucking abbos hijacked the first evac ships, because I swear every fucking NPC now looks like an abbo fucked an ape. The longer you go, the more and more it's just brown people.

Are they taking the white and asian NPCs behind the bushes and strangling them or something? I swear an NPC I was doing a quest for turned into a black dude after the update.

Goddamn, I'm thinking about uninstalling this shitpile and just playingthe FO4 mod game again.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Apparently a bunch of fucking abbos hijacked the first evac ships, because I swear every fucking NPC now looks like an abbo fucked an ape. The longer you go, the more and more it's just brown people.

I'm starting to wonder if there is an intentional thing going on, because I finally spent some actual time on Neon doing some quests and shit and it felt like everyone there was white and asian.

I haven't spent a lot of time in Akila, but thinking back I remember everyone just kind being white and having a drawl to their voice.

But I could also just be tuning the brown people out. I will say that not paying any attention to any NPC chatter is the way to go though. I finally stopped and talked to like three of them and got pissed off at just how pointless the dialogue was. Skyrim had the right idea where people who didn't have anything important to say didn't bring up a fucking dialogue tree.

I tried building an outpost finally too. I never got into it besides the required teleporter in Fallout 4, so I didn't have any expectations going in.

It just kind of seems like something that is there, but doesn't really interest me? Maybe I'm not getting it but it seems like I'm going to have to write exactly WTF I need in a real life notebook, and then spend time going back and forth picking up and dropping off supplies.

I basically made a helium extractor and a little habitat for the two miners I worked with. Am I stupid or will it let me put in a toilet but not a shower?

Edit: I keep hearing that they hired Skyrim modders to work on this. I'm hearing it was specifically people that did Creation Club content, too. I kind of wonder if Arthmoor got some kind of gig on this, and if he didn't, how fucking assblasted he must be about it.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

So maybe I'm late to the party, but apparently the Entangled mission (the one near the end where an experiment on an artifact causes a research outpost to split into two different realities) has a secret ending that can only be discovered if you read documents scattered between the two realities and figure out how to properly perform the experiment instead of just shutting the whole thing down. Apparently, there's some RNG tied to it to so following a guide directly doesn't help you and you need to actually find and read the documents to merge both realities.

It seems like a very un-Bethesda thing to do these days.

Edit: But to bring it back around

Apparently if you romance Andreja, she will remember specific dialogue choices you make, reference back to them, and even bring them up during your marriage ceremony.

But even if you take the trait that makes you have the Snake religioni like her, she'll still make a comment about how you're not part of the Snake religion.

175 hours of dialogue and they couldn't remember to record a line for one of their big important traits that were supposed to impact dialogue.

 

[Hector Hamsteak]

I'm starting to wonder if there is an intentional thing going on, because I finally spent some actual time on Neon doing some quests and shit and it felt like everyone there was white and asian.

I haven't spent a lot of time in Akila, but thinking back I remember everyone just kind being white and having a drawl to their voice.

The further I got from New Atlantis the Fewer ugly black NPCs I noticed, still a few asian npcs doing the Aurora stare at you but nothing like the compilations going around.

 

[timewave0]

I’m enjoying the game more than most of you guys it seems, it’s about a 6/10 for me. Fun but very flawed. My biggest problem is that I’m getting shite performance despite having reasonably strong specs (3080ti, i9-12900H, good SSD), and I have to restart the game every hour or so. I’m using a performance mod + DLSS, still garbage frame rate.

 

[Kiwi Andy]

This has probably been posted but it's hilarious that TroonEra has shut down the review thread:

"That Xbox review score is dropping like a rock, shut it down!!!! Don't want MS to cancel that shill fee they undoubtedly pay us in one way or another."

Also why wtf is this is 87 on PC, soy PC fags BTFO by Xbox Chad reviewers? That 83 is brutal.

 

[GloriousScarf]

I was looking forward to this before MS bought Bethesda and it became an Xbox exclusive. Give it to me straight kiwis, is this worth dropping 299 on an Xbox just to play?

 

[Sniperwoof]

I was looking forward to this before MS bought Bethesda and it became an Xbox exclusive. Give it to me straight kiwis, is this worth dropping 299 on an Xbox just to play?

My personal score is about a 6.5 out of ten. Did you like Fallout 4? It's slightly worse than that and a lot more woke.

I personally don't recommend it but if you have a high tolerance for repetitive shit and the settlement building from Fallout 4 was your favorite thing ever you might really like this.

 

[blablabla]

I was looking forward to this before MS bought Bethesda and it became an Xbox exclusive. Give it to me straight kiwis, is this worth dropping 299 on an Xbox just to play?

NO

 

[Kiwi Andy]

I was looking forward to this before MS bought Bethesda and it became an Xbox exclusive. Give it to me straight kiwis, is this worth dropping 299 on an Xbox just to play?

The S in Series S stands for shit. Don't do it.

 

[Übertroon]

todd's not wrong, space is a lot of nothing. doesn't necessarily make an interesting game tho

I think it would be more accepted that there's huge empty swathes if there was at least something interesting hidden in all the desolation

I'd accept 999 dead planets if one had a big custom built dungeon with an interesting plot, but alas

 

[Kharash]

I cant believe Im gonna say this but...

I'd take Fallout 4 over this

I've actually been revisiting Fallout 4 to compare it to Starfield and you instantly notice just how much more engaging the exploration is on the handcrafted map. In fact that was probably the one good thing about F4 and I never played 76 but I've heard players say that the map is the only good thing about it as well. And now they made Fallout 4 in space without a handcrafted map which only exacerbates F4's problems.

 

[blablabla]

im playing bgs3 and this shit doesnt even chart as an rpg, bethesda fucked it up this time

 

[Mooger Meng]

Half the time I'm tempted to just shoot my way out of everything.

Do it! Let that little /k/obold off the leash! Silence the Song of the South Stars!

 

[Epoch]

todd's not wrong, space is a lot of nothing. doesn't necessarily make an interesting game tho.

Todd got something wrong, because in similar games that are similarly empty, such as Space Engine and Elite Dangerous, I have a much more enjoyable time. I guess because those games have REAL procedural generation, and REAL planets that aren't just flat plains of nothing. A big part of space games is that the journey is more important than the destination, something Todd probably doesn't understand when he said that quote about going to the Moon. Sure, there is nothing but rocks and dust, but the commitment and struggle to get there is the reason we did it. This is something that Space Engine (albeit not really a game) has sort of with its flight sim, but it makes up for it with its truly procedural universe full of all the wonder. Elite nails the journey part but beyond galactic sightseeing it gets stale (I still spent 85 hours just doing exploration).

I guess this sort of idea is why I liked Death Stranding so much, it's a game thats entirely about the journey. I find the people complaining about how its boring and you just hold forward telling of the kind of people they are, the ones that ask why white people climb mountains if there is nothing at the top.

TLDR: Todd failed to add the journey to the exploration

 

[Rockzo]

So do you guys remember the GTA remaster that Rockstar pulled from storefronts? Graphics artists dove into the game files and found that all the original assets had been increased with extra vertices making them look weird and off?

Why bring that up? Well, what if Starfiend runs so badly because a simple sandwich has 70,000 vertices.

Should be noted that Geralt of Rivia in this 3D model I found has 98.8k Vertices.
That's one highly detailed sandwich. The kind of work that only the Indians could do.

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

TLDR: Todd failed to add the journey to the exploration

There's hardly any exploration to do as everything is seemingly already explored and you have to go through menus and loading screens to do it. Exploration isn't as interesting to me when many other people have been there already.

 

[Rockzo]

Well that was an outage. Found a better version of the chart above.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

LTTP but Outer worlds wasn't that bad.
Skyrim was terrible before the mods
Can Starfield be called an RPG if you can only use guns?

Of all of the positive and negatives i've seen about starfield ITT, the snarky marvel/reddit writing style kills any interest of playing it.

At least with Outer Worlds I could just kill everyone. Which is worth doing as it changes the game immensely, it's great fun.