Law State of Hawaii is investigating EA for "Predatory Business Practices" - I bet EA is really loving Star Wars Battlefront II right now

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You sound a bit more contradictory than I think you mean to. It's good for people to speak up and complain about a bad product but it's also bad?

It's great that they are speaking out. I just think it's really dumb I'm seeing youtubers, gamers, etc say that the government needs to fine them and EA needs to be sued for this shit because they are pissed the video game they were excited about turned out to be a lifeless moneygrab from a company with a reputation for lifeless moneygrabs. Can't you see how that's kind of an overreaction? It's not even really the government aspect that gets me, it's the idea that time and money would be spent on a lawsuit for something so utterly trivial. We shouldn't worry about the people dumb enough to buy this game and loot boxes, they should learn to worry about themselves.

Well, this is the internet. As we all know, getting genuinely upset about something means you're a faggot. Be like me, who's too cool to care about shady business practices as long as it's just video games.

Or something, I don't fucking know, this lootbox shit is just driving all the ancaps out from under the fridge.

Dude, you're worrying about lootboxes in a video game. And your first thought is they need to be sued? I'm not saying you can''t care, I can see how strongly you feel about it, but a whole lawsuit thing seems pretty dumb. That is millions of dollars being spent for a long-drawn out legal battle that at most ends up with EA tweaking their shitty DLC practices. I guess Hawaiians are fine with using tax dollars for that purpose, but I hope my state doesn't. I'm not sure what ancaps have to do it with this. It's just simple market logic, dude, if people like this shit they buy it and roll around in the mud, if they don't EA learns their lesson. And getting "genuinely upset" over an EA game?

That's a great argument if it was some mobile game, but this is a $60 tier 1 title.

Then make a case it's consumer fraud or misleading advertisements. Still not a great case, from what I can see about this situation. But the whole "it's gambling!" edge just seems like people are latching at whatever they think will get EA. If you want to get EA on that then they'll just tweak how they handle DLC (and it won't take very large changes) .

It doesn't really matter that it's a $60 supposedly AAA game. I agree with you that it's a rip off. But I do not agree that this particular case is so severe as to warrant anything other than massive consumer backlash and refusals to buy the game. I'm saying there's a difference between overt deception and just offering a shitty product. It's a shitty and overpriced product, and if a company sells a shitty and overpriced product you just don't buy it.

While people say vote with your wallet, it doesn't really stop idiots from buying these games and buying tons of loot boxes. The only way to really even hope to change things is to have the law step in. Some people don't like that. And honestly it does make me a bit uneasy. But it's EA and not many people are going to sympathize with EA. and that is their own damn fault.

You're right it won't stop every idiot from buying it. So what? I really, really do not understand why we need to worry about these people, for something so trivial, for some game people will not be playing in 2 years. Having the law step in because because they don't like the way a video game they don't have to buy works.

Even if EA doesn't listen to customer feedback, it really doesn't matter. That'll be their downfall, and the faster the better. It's not like EA is even a monopoly. The video game market is saturated with great games this year, and most of them don't try to squeeze every last penny. Play one of those instead and let EA decide if it wants to learn from its mistakes.
 
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Technically speaking, you don't have to spend a cent to unlock everything in BF2, just play for an unnecessarily long time to unlock everything.

In Overwatch, the rate at which you earn skins is really slow. It take roughly an hour of play to earn one lootbox, assuming everything goes well enough. With the amount of shitty sprays that flood the odds, it can take up few hours before you see any hero skins.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...tchs-loot-boxes-are-exhausting-to-unlock/amp/

Combine that with fact that some skins are seasonal, and the system really tries to push you to buy boxes. Just because blizzard was nice enough to not fuck with the game balance for the sake of microtranactions doesn't mean the lootboclxes aren't bs.

Nothing is pushing anyone to buy the boxes except eye candy. Your waifu wearing a Santa outfit doesn’t affect gameplay, so it’s completely fair.

Now I’m starting to think Blizzard made a very smart move for once.
 
After winning the "60$ is a fair price" argument, companies tried to make lootboxes the next normal and expected thing, so fast that it now directly affects gameplay
Giving an half made product for 60$ is already scummy, expecting you to spend 200$+ to have the complete game is the scummiest shit.

What irritates me about OW more than the lootboxes is they dared to go "And you get future heroes and maps for FREE!!" in the marketing. Like what the fuck. You charge 40$ for 20 characters and less than 10 maps, and expect praise for not being dumb enough to split the players? The fuckin balls these people have.

I know making fun of indie devs for being weirdos almost always is a given but at least they aren't...this
 
iirc didn't Blizzard run afoul of some gambling laws when they had legit money transactions on Diablo 3?
 
Well, I have heard the rumors that Disney is not at all interested in Star Wars video games ever since they EA-d Lucasarts gaming part.

Games workshop, never known for its brand spreading genious, has had more video games made recently than Disney, a company that could afford it. Starwars games are just not as prevalent as they used to be.

Apart from mobile games, the only Star Wars games that are here is this new Battlefront, which was most likely pushed by EA and Disney said "hey free money for us", the old SWTOR mmo, which Disney most likely considers free money too since its not really canon, and LEGO autism games.
 
It's great that they are speaking out. I just think it's really dumb I'm seeing youtubers, gamers, etc say that the government needs to fine them and EA needs to be sued for this shit because they are pissed the video game they were excited about turned out to be a lifeless moneygrab from a company with a reputation for lifeless moneygrabs. Can't you see how that's kind of an overreaction? It's not even really the government aspect that gets me, it's the idea that time and money would be spent on a lawsuit for something so utterly trivial. We shouldn't worry about the people dumb enough to buy this game and loot boxes, they should learn to worry about themselves.



Dude, you're worrying about lootboxes in a video game. And your first thought is they need to be sued? I'm not saying you can''t care, I can see how strongly you feel about it, but a whole lawsuit thing seems pretty dumb. That is millions of dollars being spent for a long-drawn out legal battle that at most ends up with EA tweaking their shitty DLC practices. I guess Hawaiians are fine with using tax dollars for that purpose, but I hope my state doesn't. I'm not sure what ancaps have to do it with this. It's just simple market logic, dude, if people like this shit they buy it and roll around in the mud, if they don't EA learns their lesson. And getting "genuinely upset" over an EA game?



Then make a case it's consumer fraud or misleading advertisements. Still not a great case, from what I can see about this situation. But the whole "it's gambling!" edge just seems like people are latching at whatever they think will get EA. If you want to get EA on that then they'll just tweak how they handle DLC (and it won't take very large changes) .

It doesn't really matter that it's a $60 supposedly AAA game. I agree with you that it's a rip off. But I do not agree that this particular case is so severe as to warrant anything other than massive consumer backlash and refusals to buy the game. I'm saying there's a difference between overt deception and just offering a shitty product. It's a shitty and overpriced product, and if a company sells a shitty and overpriced product you just don't buy it.



You're right it won't stop every idiot from buying it. So what? I really, really do not understand why we need to worry about these people, for something so trivial, for some game people will not be playing in 2 years. Having the law step in because because they don't like the way a video game they don't have to buy works.

Even if EA doesn't listen to customer feedback, it really doesn't matter. That'll be their downfall, and the faster the better. It's not like EA is even a monopoly. The video game market is saturated with great games this year, and most of them don't try to squeeze every last penny. Play one of those instead and let EA decide if it wants to learn from its mistakes.

Yeah, my post was sorta dumb. It's more that I feel that leaving things up to the ol' "hot stove" way of doing things can only end in tragedy because the majority of consumers are complacent dummies.
 
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I'd figure every gamer would be okay with this but we have people like this dude
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Also this isn't even about EA IMO all lootbox form like shit must die.


Sounds like your typical autistic GameFAQs contrarian, just saying.
 
Yeah, my post was sorta dumb. It's more that I feel that leaving things up to the ol' "hot stove" way of doing things can only end in tragedy because the majority of consumers are complacent dummies.

The majority of all people are idiots. What they do themselves is usually of no consequence to you, or I. I get that we all want some cosmic justice against EA for sucking so much, but I don't care how other people get their kicks. As I've said, if they're dumb enough to find this as entertainment then let them reap what they sow.

I get the animus the left feels towards the average consumer. I don't like people either. But you've got to let them take care of themselves and worry about yourself, and you can more easily control your own behavior than theirs, and there are a ton of video games to play that aren't touched by EA.

In any case I think the PHBs at EA miscalculated. They seem to think that console gamers are the same people that do mobile gaming shit. I know people loathe hearing it because they crave that instant and visible karmic justice, but the best thing people can do is to just not buy the damn game. It comes across as amazingly first world problemish when people think the answer to a crappy videogame is a lawsuit, a lawsuit on something that won't change EA's nickle-and-diming practices anyway.
 
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I See it like this:
Lootboxes gets rid of, they get desperate and resort to crimes, drugs or shitting their pants and doing nothing, thus Accelerating the kali yuga.
Seems like a nice deal to me
 
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