Steam dropping Windows 7 and Windows 8 Support in 2024 - because of course a game platform is locked to one shitty web browser

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WelperHelper99 said:
I do have to ask... who is using 8.1? 7 is a sad loss, but 8 was Vista tier (though I grew up with a Vista Lenovo, so I have some warm memories of it)

Got nearly all of the command and conquer series on disc, I'd just have to build something like a little ITX with XP or 7 on it so it isn't shitting bricks trying to chug 10 or 11
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I started using Server 2012 when it came out and used it for the longest time... I needed hyper-v with working dynamic RAM allocation and that shit was state of the art at the time. I actually really like the GUI aesthetic of win 8/8.1 but it takes a good half hour of tweaks and nonsense to get it to behave properly and blunt Metro. I used hyper-v to image my first 8 enterprise install where I ran every tweak there was and worked off that for nearly 9 years without a hitch. Never had problems so never switched. Mind you I never gamed with it or did anything other than productivity IT loser stuff (ie, actual work) on it.

But if I deployed my old clone image today and let it run updates (same with server 2012) it will shit the bed and destroy itself with whatever litany of KBjeet reasons.

But still nothing like the horrors of Vista althought props to the small group of contrarians who can still swear it was a great OS somehow. Troll or not that takes serious dedication.
 
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SilentDuck said:
I started using Server 2012 when it came out and used it for the longest time... I needed hyper-v with working dynamic RAM allocation and that shit was state of the art at the time. I actually really like the GUI aesthetic of win 8/8.1 but it takes a good half hour of tweaks and nonsense to get it to behave properly and blunt Metro. I used hyper-v to image my first 8 enterprise install where I ran every tweak there was and worked off that for nearly 9 years without a hitch. Never had problems so never switched. Mind you I never gamed with it or did anything other than productivity IT loser stuff (ie, actual work) on it.

But if I deployed my old clone image today and let it run updates (same with server 2012) it will shit the bed and destroy itself with whatever litany of KBjeet reasons.

But still nothing like the horrors of Vista althought props to the small group of contrarians who can still swear it was a great OS somehow. Troll or not that takes serious dedication.
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My warm memories of Vista are only because it was what we had in the house, I know it was shit. I guess that's how 8 was, you could make it work if you knew what you were doing. And I pushed that poor Lenovo to the limits, Spore crashed so much on that little drone. I think part of my distate for the 8 system comes from when I had a Nokia windows phone. The thing was genuinely disabled.
 
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Kosher Dill said:
People with NVMe drives who don't want to jump through ridiculous hoops to install an OS?
Besides which, 8.1 was just fine once you used Open-Shell to turn the UI back to 7-style. I used it right up until EOL.
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I'm just saying as is, it's gimped as a system. I don't think they should be doing it, but 8 was just another Vista. Now getting rid of support for 7 is a sin.
 
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Lone Wandering Courier said:
I get why people are annoyed with this, but I mean Linux gaming is very viable at this point and can run the older games Windows 10/11 can't run
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Honestly, the only issues I've had with Linux gaming are also issues with Windows gaming. Poorly implemented anticheat, dog water port jobs, and more turd-party launcher than you can shake a stick of RAM at.
Even for stuff that isn't on Steam, Lutris and Bottles makes it fairly easy to get things running.
For anyone getting into Linux, I would suggest any distro that is popular.
For dipping in your toes: Ubuntu, PopOS, and Linux Mint should be the ones you try out. There's also ZorinOS if you want something that looks pretty much like Windows 10.
If you want to try something Arch-based (and get access to the AUR) I would suggest EndeavorOS, Garuda, and avoid Manjaro (remember when they accidently DDoSed the AUR :story: ).
 
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Ah yes, I'm sure this 1.86% of Steam users who still use abandoned operating systems will be very upset that Valve simply doesn't want to cater to a promile of insane lunatics who just cannot let go of the fact that operating systems become obsolete and will fight until the very end for Valve to change their mind and continue supporting that 1.86% of users and spending unnecessary amounts of money and effort into doing so.

Or alternatively, the Steam Survey is manipulated by Valve so that they can excuse killing off perfectly good operating systems because they are being paid my Microsoft to do so.

This is like complaining that someone cannot play Steam games on their Windows 98 machine with a Pentium MMX and Voodoo 2 graphics, you have a perfectly fine and working computer and those pesky corporations want you to throw it away. Hardware, as well as software becomes obsolete with time. Stop living in the past, let it go and move on.
 
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Slav Power said:
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Ah yes, I'm sure this 1.86% of Steam users who still use abandoned operating systems will be very upset that Valve simply doesn't want to cater to a promile of insane lunatics who just cannot let go of the fact that operating systems become obsolete and will fight until the very end for Valve to change their mind and continue supporting that 1.86% of users and spending unnecessary amounts of money and effort into doing so.

Or alternatively, the Steam Survey is manipulated by Valve so that they can excuse killing off perfectly good operating systems because they are being paid my Microsoft to do so.

This is like complaining that someone cannot play Steam games on their Windows 98 machine with a Pentium MMX and Voodoo 2 graphics, you have a perfectly fine and working computer and those pesky corporations want you to throw it away. Hardware, as well as software becomes obsolete with time. Stop living in the past, let it go and move on.
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The main issue is telemetry, generally poor efficiency and proper utilization of hardware along with creeping hardware demands. Windows 7 does the job fine, there's no reason it cannot continue to do so other than megacorps and snotty hipsters don't want to support it.

Most Intel 440bx machines run just fine to this day. You can have 24 CPU cores and mandatory trooning+shooting or back to the days of Pentium MMX and getting called a "bunch of fags" for disco dancing in your ads. If you died on 9/11 you never even saw XP. What is so good about the future?
 
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Slav Power said:
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Ah yes, I'm sure this 1.86% of Steam users who still use abandoned operating systems will be very upset that Valve simply doesn't want to cater to a promile of insane lunatics who just cannot let go of the fact that operating systems become obsolete and will fight until the very end for Valve to change their mind and continue supporting that 1.86% of users and spending unnecessary amounts of money and effort into doing so.

Or alternatively, the Steam Survey is manipulated by Valve so that they can excuse killing off perfectly good operating systems because they are being paid my Microsoft to do so.

This is like complaining that someone cannot play Steam games on their Windows 98 machine with a Pentium MMX and Voodoo 2 graphics, you have a perfectly fine and working computer and those pesky corporations want you to throw it away. Hardware, as well as software becomes obsolete with time. Stop living in the past, let it go and move on.
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I have games on steam that would run on a windows 98 with a pentium mmx and voodoo 2. So why should I be cut off from it? If the games natively run then why shouldn't we have a version of steam that doesn't get updated that intentionally runs on lower end machines?
 
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Slav Power said:
Hardware, as well as software becomes obsolete with time.
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Actually, the idea that a 10-year-old computer is an antique is itself an antique, obsolete idea. People who think this generally grew up in the age where 10 years was the difference between the 386 and the Pentium, or the Pentium and the Core 2. Those days are long gone.
 
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Kosher Dill said:
Actually, the idea that a 10-year-old computer is an antique is itself an antique, obsolete idea. People who think this generally grew up in the age where 10 years was the difference between the 386 and the Pentium, or the Pentium and the Core 2. Those days are long gone.
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Not to mention the little fact that we are finally starting to bump against the limits of what a consumer PC can do without requiring a dedicated circuit on the household wiring, or at least without racking up an ungodly power bill with significant use.

Barring the advent of optical computing beyond a nerdly pipe dream, there is only so much juice you can run through a few square feet of circuit board before your computer becomes a 1000-1500 watt space heater that doubles as an entertainment device.
 
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I Just Can't Do It :( said:
Check out windows 11 by spectre. Installed it today from windows 7, no tracking bullshit and works really well so far.
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Might use that when games no longer support Windows 10.
vomitusdeux said:
I have games on steam that would run on a windows 98 with a pentium mmx and voodoo 2. So why should I be cut off from it? If the games natively run then why shouldn't we have a version of steam that doesn't get updated that intentionally runs on lower end machines?
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See if the game opens without Steam. There's a lot of games you can buy on Steam that are DRM-free. I know Rimworld is one of them. Go into the game's folder and click the exe.
 
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Slav Power said:
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Ah yes, I'm sure this 1.86% of Steam users who still use abandoned operating systems will be very upset that Valve simply doesn't want to cater to a promile of insane lunatics who just cannot let go of the fact that operating systems become obsolete and will fight until the very end for Valve to change their mind and continue supporting that 1.86% of users and spending unnecessary amounts of money and effort into doing so.

Or alternatively, the Steam Survey is manipulated by Valve so that they can excuse killing off perfectly good operating systems because they are being paid my Microsoft to do so.

This is like complaining that someone cannot play Steam games on their Windows 98 machine with a Pentium MMX and Voodoo 2 graphics, you have a perfectly fine and working computer and those pesky corporations want you to throw it away. Hardware, as well as software becomes obsolete with time. Stop living in the past, let it go and move on.
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I just want Valve to release tools to get rid of their DRM so people can play the games they bought on whatever operating system they aren't supporting anymore. I think that is perfectly fair. They don't even have to support it anymore, just make sure I can play the games I bought by releasing some open source tools to make sure I get the full value of the products I bought.
 
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Virago Esteemer said:
I just want Valve to release tools to get rid of their DRM so people can play the games they bought on whatever operating system they aren't supporting anymore. I think that is perfectly fair. They don't even have to support it anymore, just make sure I can play the games I bought by releasing some open source tools to make sure I get the full value of the products I bought.
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That's already a thing, unofficially: https://github.com/atom0s/Steamless

I've used it on my own games for sharing with friends. Might not work with every game, but at least did for all the ones I tried.
 
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In addition to the link posted earlier, I'd also highly recommend looking at the "Steam Tools" section of this archive of the old r/piracy megathread (one of the only subreddits worth visiting): https://rentry.org/7cznn

They have links to emulators and such which can bypass most of Steam's DRM. Highly recommend checking these out if anyone's interested in stripping out the crap Steam puts in their games.
 
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