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Steam dropping Windows 7 and Windows 8 Support in 2024 - because of course a game platform is locked to one shitty web browser
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It pretty much did, because they got rid of their VGUI and Steam nowadays is literally just a borderless browser window (same as Discord, for example). I've been mad about this ever since they started this transition by changing the Friends/chat window and the Library tab into browser windows as responsiveness of the client in those areas became jarringly more sluggish compared to everything else. Since VGUI is dead, everything is equally sluggish.
Also, R. I. P. Steam client skins.
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I got my first ever Linux machine up and running a few months ago thanks to the oppressive telemetry and awful optimization of modern Windows. Got it all set up for programming, gaming, imported all my browser settings and files. The works.
I think I used it for maybe a month before giving up.
Linux is just a terrible experience unless you're making Grandpa's Facebook Machine, and even then it falls short. Basic features like monitor scaling hardly work at all, and if it's not in a Flatpack or on GitHub, good fucking luck installing it and having it actually work.
Believe me, I wish Linux was good. But it's not. It has many really great features that I miss, but overall it's just bad.
Except for SteamOS. Buy yourself a Steam Deck if you want Linux gaming. Proton is frankly amazing and the ability to boot to desktop gives you infinite flexibility. Plus it runs incredibly for how cheap it is.
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Nigga if you are still running a computer with windows 7 just install steamos on that motherfucker.
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I will never abandon Madobe-chan for her WHORE sister with her open backdoors--I don't care if I have to open up a hex editor and patch Steam myself to force it to work on 7.
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I'm not reading 16 pages of this thread, but has anyone mentioned using DOSBox, SCUMMVM and VM's to play old games? It is all I have ever done and I have no complaints.
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I think you can just create some file in Steam directory to stop it from upgrading. I remember using Steam on an old XP laptop long after they dropped support for it.
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No idea how things are outside of gaming but, Windows 7 users are only 0.68 % of steam users. For reference Mac users are 1.63% and Linux is at 1.97% most of which are steam deck users form what I have been told.
Windows still dominates steam. Windows 10 is still used more for now but, that is slowly declining in favor of Windows 11.
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I do this as well, the problem is I'm gonna lose my entire Steam library including some VERY neat games in Early Access, so I'll be fucked out of future final releases.
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Deck runs on SteamOS, which is a modified version of Arch. If we count ALL Arch users as Deck users, "normal" Linux has 1,82% of Steam userbase.
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Windows 7 was the absolute peak of desktop operating systems in terms of user experience and design. Nobody will ever design a product that good again, it's something lost to time. Good UI and UX is a lost technology like roman concrete to modern developers.
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Honestly, working with a ZorinOS laptop I feel like Linux is actually better than Windows at times. I've been itching to learn to learn programming, mainy C++ and possibly rust. The problem is that Windows is an absolute cunt to work with in setting up IDEs for C++. With Linux I can literally just use the terminal and have shit set up within 5-10 minutes with a few helpful forum guides, because the guys around FOSS are generally helpful.
On windows you can't find anything proper on the subject because I have to waddle through a sea of unhelpful trash. The shit that ends up at the top is either a pajeet giving unclear instructions, a soy dev shilling Python or JS, or shit that's flat out outdated and doesn't address my actual problem.
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Is 2024 the year people begin returning to the high seas?
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And if you’re ever really stuck, the Arch wiki is very good and is very often useful whether you’re actually on Arch or not.
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I'll take this opportunity to evangelize my very specific opinions about what distro you should switch to to anyone who is still stuck on 7 and doesn't want to use win10 LTSC for some reason
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With Steam DRM, remember folks! It's still shit even if it comes out of Gabe Newell's ass!
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The biggest reason I switched to Linux was that a few years ago both my Windows 10 laptop and desktop started crawling through my hard drives when left alone for a few minutes. Of course I can't tell why Win10 did that because the process doing that was system and Microsoft wouldn't answer any questions about the subject. Maybe it was just telemetry, but I've had a hard time figuring out why basic telemetry would need to go through each and every bit on each and every hard drive.
That looks so comfy now.
That's funny, I would've guessed Linux users to be a much larger group, just going by how much Steam has put effort into making Linux gaming work.
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because they need to sell your data for profit. simple as.
Windows 11 does it harder and actually gives your advertising on top of it.
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Edit: download ShutUp10 to shut off some telemetries.
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I just searched "set up VS Code for C++ on Windows" and the top hit was Microsoft's official step-by-step process on how to install VS Code, the MSVC compiler, and get rolling immediately. Nothing about this is arcane or hard, and I seriously question how you were unable to find this page. Setting up VS Code is not hard.
It's actually easier to do multiplatform development on Windows 11 than Linux due to WSL integration (which VS Code automatically recognizes).
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Let me guess: you didn't google your problems or read the Archwiki and you are blaming Linux that? Linux has been desktop ready ever since the early 2010s. I hate this notion that people put out that "Linux isn't good because you have to learn it".
1) You only have to learn how to manage software and that is not difficult to enough to not google in like 2 minutes and learn how to do that
2) You had to learn how to use Windows as well. Linux isn't trying to be Windows, it's trying to be it's own thing. Either acclimate to it or drop it, but don't compare apples to oranges because they are both fruits.
Because using 65 GB just to build programs is a bit absurd. And that's before adding the libraries you need for development. To this day I hate how much space VS and it's related components take compared even to the most heftiest Linix development suite, which at most is 50-500 MB (~10 GB if we are talking about Qt). I really fon't understand why and how it take so much space to make a development suite like that.
Meanwhile you can just do "sudo apt/pacman/dnf/yum/emerge package_name" and install it (if you van't find it immediately, searching with package managers has been a done deal for a while now). Or just git clone the proper library and build it right then and there. I can't tell you how much easier Linux has made my life in terms of developing software.
That is true. There is Qt, but that's mostly for GUI stuff. Granted, WSL is garbage and you are better off dual booting if you want to test software on Linux. I've been using WSL for a year now and can't tell you how slow it is for me to run very basic commands
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