Andrew Tate Raped Lauren Southern - All Evidence
The purpose of this post is to be a through, however admittedly dry repository of all the known evidence spotlighting the perhaps surprising, but nevertheless "open" secret that is concluded in the title. I want my recounting in this post to be as accurate, and devoid of personal bias as much as possible - whatever cheap fun and ridicule I decide to have at the expense of the parties involved is something I'll indulge in later.
Caolan Robertson
The story begins, believe or not, in august of 2019 at a event called the Byline Festival. The Festival is hosted and ran by a sister organization of the news outlet Byline Times and features themes that obviously share a common interest with the political ideas expressed by the outlet, which are fairly ideologically to left. One of the guests invited was a far-left writer and social commentator Louise Raw, this specific individual however took issue with another one of the guests, a guest who was also a participant in one of the promoted events of the Festival, that being Caolan Robertson.
- image taken from their official
site.
- tweet made by Caolan after the event.
Caolan Robertson was invited to speak due to his recent denouncement of his past work as a backend, right-wing media producer and personality, and his very well known feelings of remorse that he felt which was often noted and opined upon by the media. Not everyone felt similarly about showering him in appraisal for his "brave" defection of his former career however - Louise Raw, had a much different inkling about Caolan prior to the event which almost made her denied the invite to go. She claims later in a "Morning Star"
article she wrote about the event that her participation in the talk with him only confirmed that negative inkling, which originated from his past actions with his former boss "Tommy Robinson".
Raw's personal feelings about Caolan's failure to grovel enough for his past sins is not what concerns me here (The article does touch on his connection with Tommy Robinson tho, which will be relevant later) - Instead, I am much more concerned with what she says here in this section of the article.
This revelation wasn't only something that was brought up by Caolen on stage during the talk, but also had reconfirmed it's existence in the aftermath of the attended to conversation backstage. Telling it to, who I assume, people who were present for the conversation between him and Raw and were interested in hearing more about what happened with Southern.
Now this Moring Star article isn't, at the very least, what someone would describe as "objective". It's pretty clearly biased and spiteful towards Caolan, and even somewhat admittedly so by the author - Here she is talking about him again in a New York Times article.
Her retarded personal vendetta aside, it did succeed in bringing something to light a year later in the midst of a twitter beef that was spurred on by a account mentioning The Moring Star article.
Take note that there is almost a full year gap between when the article was written and when Caolen acknowledged it's existence. Louise responds with this -
Caolen, in response to her last tweet drops this bombshell -
Now lets ponder all of this for a sec - Andrew Tate at this time was not all that well known, with the only significant consistent outreach he had being in the kick boxing community. The most attention he received outside of that was when he gave his opinion on depression not being real, which sparked a few videos and headlines but that's about it. The point being, if you were trying to make up fabricated gossip about another political commentator for whatever reason, why would you pick such a seemingly random and relatively unknown person?
There is also another important aspect of this which backs up its validity, however it relies on the assumption that Caolen was in some kind of contact with Lauren between when she temporarily quit Youtube in early 2019, which is when she finished her immigration documentary that Caolen had worked on with her, and shortly after the article was published in the summer of that same year. If this assumption is correct, then it obviously explains why he didn't bring up the article until the august of next year because Lauren told him not to bring attention to it. This would also line up pretty well with the narrative that she quit partly because of this, given that she quit immediately after her
"Borderless" documentary which was in production in 2018.
Here's the full context of the "Rapist is Andrew Tate" tweet (apologies for the inconsistent profile pics and light/dark mode settings, that was the fault of whoever first archived them). -
Now this is probably the weakest part of Caolan's story, it's pretty easy to prove someone was a rape victim in the immediate aftermath of it happening these days with things like DNA evidence. So unless the Romanian police were incompetent enough not to follow through on that, or LS for whatever reason decided not to push charges and Caolan went to the police alone (something that also doesn't make any sense because the hospital would for sure inform the police if she was taken there) then these parts of the story are, at the very least suspicious.
In either case, these tweets have long since been deleted by Caolan, and it wasn't until 2022 when he would bring it up again, this time with his only prompt for doing so being that Tate was now a well known figure in the public zeitgeist and he felt the need to bring up this incident to hurt his credibility.
The "someone close to me" is obviously Lauren, given that, immediately after he said this, Tommy Robinson made a response to it on Tate's behalf which also poorly veiled the identity of the women involved, making it clear that it was Lauren. Ill be getting to that video and other fun stuff with Tommy later.
If you need evidence supporting the scale of how closely Caolan was involved in the backend production of the projects that Lauren outputted on her channel, and just how far their working relationship went, welp, here are a few examples -
(Taken from 2020 documentary "
White Noise")
(example from Lauren's twitch stream - obviously talking about Caolan)
(Caolan Robertson and his boyfriend/partner, Llewelyn, both credited on "
Farmlands" imdb)
Meet The Robinsons
Tommy Robinson is a bumbling crybaby retard hack grifter whose life and career has been nothing but playing the victim whilst shamelessly lying about how much he hates brown Muslims rapists for clout and coke money. He also so happens to be somewhat close friends with Andrew Tate, a brown Muslim rapist. In the aftermath of Caolan's 2022 tweet, Robinson made this
video on his rumble channel in which he asserts the following...
- The accusation that Andrew Tate raped a woman is a conspiracy made up by the organization Hope Not Hate.
- I (Tommy) was there with Caolan when they visited Tate at his camstudio and witness the woman in question openly kissing Tate and being flirty with Tate while they were visiting. She was also texting him in the car when they left and even went back to Romania to visit him.
- It's unclear whether the woman in question will go along with Hope Not Hate's plan to frame Tate falsely as a rapist.
Here he is showing a clip of the "unnamed woman" they were with in Romania talking about Hope Not Hate.
The biggest issue with his narrative is obvious. If Hope Not Hate is targeting Tate by manifesting this false rape accusation, presumably because of his popularity, then how did Hope Not Hate have the foresight to know that Tate would become as big of a figure as he was back in 2020? Which is when he was first named as the rapist by Caolan. Not to mention the rumor itself that she was raped originated in 2019, three years before he left obscurity.
In early 2023, he hosted a panel on a media platform he either owns or is affiliated with called the Urban Scoop, with a bunch of other journalist where he says this -
Really the only reason I am including Tommy's statements about this is because even if he lying, or Caolan's lying, it would be extremely unlikely that they would both make up that it was Lauren who was the woman that was present with them in Romania as it wouldn't make sense for them to mutually lie about that, especially in Tommy's case if he thought the allegations where untrue and had knowledge that he lied about the women who accompanied them. Even if Tommy wasn't aware of the past tweet made by Caolan where he explicitly names Lauren as the victim, what's the likelihood that Tommy just coincidently decided to name Lauren as well if it wasn't the case that something did happen between Lauren and Tate?
In case you curious about the relationship between Tate and Tommy Robinson and why I think his pov might hold some value pertaining to what he claims to know relating to him. He said this in that same panel with the journalists I mentioned earlier -
Andrew Tate
Now lets talk about the man himself for a bit. The only example that I can find of Andrew Tate interacting with Lauren is when he liked a tweet by her, and even that is based only on a second hand account from a reddit post that I unfortunately know can't verify the validity of.
(I was going to post a screenshot of the reddit post but for some reason I can't find it anymore lol)
There isn't any evidence of Lauren visiting Romania that I could find online, neither was there any for Caolan, but that doesn't really mean much sense I doubt they would mention that trip anywhere assuming Tate did actually rape her.
So what about that claim from Caolan that the person who did it was a "well known figure in the British far Right." Assuming Caolan is actually being paraphrased accurately here by Louise Raw, then surely it can't be Tate right? Even if you want to be ultra charitable and say that he is simply referencing being "well known" among figures in the British far right, that couldn't be the case either sense Andrew Tate moved to Romania in 2017 and the supposed crime took place in early 2018, so it would be highly unlikely that he was involved enough in UK politics to be referenced in such a way.
This is of course, unless we look at it Caolan's perspective of who Tate was at the time he was introduced to him. I already mentioned that Tate and Tommy were close friends, that was also the case prior to 2017 when Tate moved from Luton, where Tommy also lived, to Romania. It's most likely the case the Caolan and Lauren were introduced to Tate through Tommy and it's also likely that the reason behind the visit was related to potential media projects pertaining to UK politics and Tommy Robinson.
It's important to note that Tate has involved himself in politics and political figures publicly prior to when he blew up. Although almost all the examples took place in 2019 (after the rape), It still showcases his interest in it and it's not that big of a reach to say he probably had it in the years prior as well.
(Andrew Tate with Mike Cernovich and a few others at CPAC 2019)
(snippet from New York Times article)
(Andrew Tate with Nigel Farage also a CPAC 2019)
Aaron Mccready
Aaron Mccready is Lauren Southern's ex husband. If you question the authenticity of whether this is his actual name or not, here's are a few instances of it being undeniably doxed.
Rollo accidently doxes his name here when talking about his communications via email with him, and @Code Cave discovered a record of Lauren and Aaron's divorce proceeding.
https://justice.gov.bc.ca/cso/esearch/civil/searchPartyResult.do?serviceId=104795887
In the summer of 2023, Aaron sent these messages to Rollo who only decided to leak them in the aftermath of the recent Destiny leaks. In which he mirrors the same claim that Caolan made.
If your still questioning whether or not this is actually Aaron just keep in mind that she basically admitted it in a Triggernometry interview where she states that her ex husband started to send emails to right wing e-celebs in a attempt to discredit her - Rollo is really the only confirmed instance of that happening.
In 2018, shortly after this event took place, Lauren did an interview with Stefan Molyneux talking about Tommy's arrest in the UK over an unrelated incident. In it, she talks about a "media project" that she was going to work with Tommy on called "The Front". The project was still yet to be made into anything before Tommy was arrested and Southern was banned from the UK, so it inevitably went nowhere. Before this though, they still managed to connect with prominent people and producers over a shared interest in the project, and Southern even underlines how many eyes were on it that she throws in the possibility that the production being halted by the UK government was not incidental.
This partially lines up with what her husband says here (the only difference being that he doesn't say specifically "media project").
Lauren Southern
So what has Lauren said about Andrew Tate? Well, that's perhaps the most reveling piece of evidence depending on how you look at it, because she has never made a statement about him on her main channel or in a tweet. This is despite having a recurring interest in talking about redpill related stuff since all the way back in August of 2021, when she debated Rollo Tomassi on the topic and has made tweets about it constantly throughout the time when Andrew Tate was at the height of his popularity.
She also made entire video basically dedicated to the popularity of redpill content. Keep in mind that this video directly alludes to content creators like Pearl and Fresh&Fit.
That doesn't mean his name was never prompted to her tho, lets look at a few examples shall we -
Ashton Birdie
Ashton Birdie is a ex Info Wars political commentator whose recent activities include being a onlyfans whore and completely denouncing her association with the right wing media sphere. If your curious for more info, there's an entire thread dedicated to her https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ashton-whitty-ashton-bridie-ashton-blaise.200207/
She is also somewhat friends, or at least friendly with Lauren Southern.
In May 20th, 2022, She made an appearance on Chrissie Mayr's show "Simp Cast" alongside Lauren Southern and others, and made what I believe to be an unintentional revelation by stating "you've been in a room with Andrew Tate" when discussing the shared discontentment with their passed experiences with right wing media figures.
Now the threshold of how close or friendly you believe Birdie would have to be to Lauren to actually know this information for sure, or whether you think she's above just repeating baseless rumors is irrelevant for two reasons - 1. This clip comes from a stream that took place in May of 2022. The first time people really begun to speculate about the Lauren/Tate connection was after the
December of 2022 Caolan tweet about it and Tommy's subsequent Rumble response - 2. The way she words it sounds as if it's something that she didn't hear from hearsay and just from Lauren herself. If Lauren told her something privately than she most likely omitted whatever non-consensual or consensual sexual interaction that occurred between them, so the only context Ashton would have would be they "were in the same room". I also have a hard time believing that she would air this out on a stream Infront of thousands of people if she knew about the "open secret".
Destiny
This will be the shortest section of my schizo ramble, but I think it's important to include as her response in this clip, I think, takes all of the circumstantial evidence I've laid out and wraps it together in a nice little bow. In the summer of 2022 (aka in the middle of their affair where Destiny made LS his oneitis) Destiny and Lauren had a stream together where she feigned ignorance about Tate's popularity when he was brought up.
(I'm facing issues currently with downloading the video, here's the timestamp where Tate is mentioned -
1:01:52)
We also know that Lauren experienced a traumatic sexual assault situation via the Dm leaks with Destiny.