Steven Crowder / LouderWithCrowder / @scrowder / The "Change my Mind" meme guy - Talk show host who burns all bridges, even with his own wife

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

But he made a public video of himself with the drug lab in the background, metaphorically, while begging for donations to fight drug charges he wasn't even charged with yet, metaphorically.

Metaphorically indeed.
He didn't say it directly what he was doing and who he was fighting.
So unless you expect him to switch first letters of all the names in all his receipts, after already having risked his ass to get money for the fight which he seemingly does not have since some nigger named Cteven Srowder has put a chain on his career, JUST so our curiosity could be fed before all this shit goes to court, I don't think you'll see any real shit any time soon.

Regardless of tortured metaphors, I still don't see why any of his vague claims should be automatically believed absent proof or court docs.

You're right to be skeptical. Yet it has been known for a long time that Jared left LWC on bad terms, being totally mute for all these years as to why. Seeing as Steven and Jared were seemingly great friends before that, some serious shit happened between them back then. Why's Jared fighting now? Steven had a lot of cred and influence for a very long time, all that shit's basically gone now because of the divorce, so it's easier to fight now.
I think way back when Jared did mention somehwhere his family are still friend with Hilary. I still believe the wife more than Crowder's camp, since even if she did delete a lot of footage, I did not hear anything yet that would vindicate Crowder from being an absolute asshole to his wife from the footage we have. So my guess Jared actually gives a shit about Hilary and the kids, and to keep them away from a faggot ass shitlord like Crowder. Call me a romantic optimist.

I'm surprised he didn't claim Crowder yelled "THIS IS CROWDER COUNTRYYYYYY" while notgay-bashing him.

As said. Jared still needs to watch everything he says. Even if his lawyers didn't tell him to do that already, he has to be smart enough to know that he has already said too much just by trying to get the cash for the court bullshit.

 

[Chef Kef]

Nothing says "traditional family values" like trying to fuck over the mother of your children lol.

At no point does it say that you are protected from being stupid and signing an NDA. It is not a 1st Amendment issue because the party voluntarily enters into an agreement with another party.

You're correct that it isn't a first amendment issue but that also doesn't mean that every "voluntary agreement" is legally enforceable. I can hire a retard, slide a stack of papers for him to sign before he's officially employed, and hide one in the middle that says "by the way if you say anything mean about me I get to literally fuck you in the ass every day for the rest of your life. It will be filmed and therefore technically pornography, so no prostitution or similar laws are actually broken. The only way out is to publicly apologize and give me your life savings."

A judge is never going to go "well, you voluntarily signed the contract so bend down and spread your cheeks." The contract might as well just not exist. Physical access to your asshole is not a reasonable, protected trade secret.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

At no point does it say that you are protected from being stupid and signing an NDA. It is not a 1st Amendment issue because the party voluntarily enters into an agreement with another party.

Even if Notgay did fuck up with the NDA, the law doesn't protect the likes of Crowder from being publicly shit on because he's an abusive sociopath.

 

[MDCCLXXVI]

I can hire a retard, slide a stack of papers for him to sign before he's officially employed, and hide one in the middle that says "by the way if you say anything mean about me I get to literally fuck you in the ass every day for the rest of your life. It will be filmed and therefore technically pornography, so no prostitution or similar laws are actually broken. The only way out is to publicly apologize and give me your life savings."

A judge is never going to go "well, you voluntarily signed the contract so bend down and spread your cheeks." The contract might as well just not exist. Physical access to your asshole is not a reasonable, protected trade secret.

As has been noted several times within this thread, an NDA does not protect an LLC from disclosure of illegal activities. What you describe, as far-fetched as it is, borders on abusive behavior aimed at a handicapped person. That certainly would be considered illegal.

Hiring the mentally challenged comes with its own legal baggage that I don't want to get into unless you are claiming that Not Gay Jared is a retard. Which he is. Because he wanted a pay out on his way out.

 

[MDCCLXXVI]

the law doesn't protect the likes of Crowder from being publicly shit on

Thank God somebody gets it. His behavior that we have seen so far warrants a public shitting on. That is EXACTLY what the 1st Amendment is all about.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Are conservative/populist Americans just retarded? Do they not read what they sign after a lawyer has also read it?

Most people in the space are honestly. Regardless of how many times people keep getting screwed by this exact shit.

You’d really think they’d have learnt by now.

It wasn’t like this kind of fuckery was even new when Crowder did it.

There’d been a decade of this happening in online spaces at that point. To say nothing of irl jobs.

 

[JarJar Stinks]

Hillary hiring the same attorney who that fucking psycho bitch ruined the MLB pitcher's career is a red flag, as much as Steven's chimpout with the backyard camera.

At this point I just want them to destroy each other, but I'm more disappointed in Crowder for how shit he has run the company pretty much since the Daily Wire fiasco. In this time, with declining numbers, truly unfunny sketches and dated videos about topics people clearly don't want to see on the channel, he keeps doing them. And then he continues this stupid thing of not working Friday, not working for two months out of the year even when big news hits, and we're just supposed to root for the guy because our side? Fuck that.

I'm noticing the fucking nerd shows like Nerdrotic and Gundam etc. are actually the ones doing more culture war winning/information than the actual conservative "culture warriors," and that's more an indictment on lil' Ben and Gay Leaf Crowder than them.

Meme accounts on X literally share more information than Stevens show now.

 

[Chef Kef]

As has been noted several times within this thread, an NDA does not protect an LLC from disclosure of illegal activities. What you describe, as far-fetched as it is, borders on abusive behavior aimed at a handicapped person. That certainly would be considered illegal.

Hiring the mentally challenged comes with its own legal baggage that I don't want to get into unless you are claiming that Not Gay Jared is a retard. Which he is. Because he wanted a pay out on his way out.

They don't need to literally be retarded. Normal people sign shit without reading it all the time, that's my point. You can put all kinds of insane things (and lets just say technically legal for the sake of argument) in a contract and get someone to sign it, but ultimately what matters is if a judge is willing to enforce.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Meme accounts on X literally share more information than Stevens show now.

All of that stuff was shared by Crowder. It’s why we even have it for the meme accounts to share.

 

[Ass to Ass]

Nothing says "traditional family values" like trying to fuck over the mother of your children lol.

A lot of Republicans have been exposed over the years as closeted fags, domestic abusers, cheaters, a few paid for abortions, etc., they do a lot of lip service to the evangelical crowd about how they support traditional values, but when it comes time to practice what they preach, they don't give a shit.

They don't need to literally be retarded. Normal people sign shit without reading it all the time, that's my point. You can put all kinds of insane things (and lets just say technically legal for the sake of argument) in a contract and get someone to sign it, but ultimately what matters is if a judge is willing to enforce.

This is really apparent when it comes to prenuptial agreements. People will put all sorts of terms into prenups, but it can be struck down as "unfair" by a judge, with absolutely no basis on case law or statutes. It makes me wonder how many judges have struck down prenups because they received money or sexual favors.

 

[Spodermon]

God he’s such a whiney piece of shit, no wonder his wife can’t stand him.

Imagine thinking the solution to miserable unhappy wives is forcing them to stay in the marriage and not just, you know, being nice to them,

Being nice to even your average depressed/BPD modern woman is most certainly not a solution…

 

[Maverick Vile]

How did this Jared retard sign a noncompete clause without a massive payout?

Jared says he signed a non-solicitation agreement that Crowder's legal team asserted could be read as a broad non-compete. The two are legally distinct concepts, but since Crowder was the one paying Jared's salary, he knows about how long Jared can hold out in a legal dispute over the details.

Why do you Yankees subject yourselves to this? To stick it to the commies?

It started with Reagan and now Obama and his cronies have adopted sucking corporate dick to get what they want because a shocking number of people will allow a group of thugs to step on their necks as long as it's technically not the government. Corporations are the neat little linguistic trick the federal government has deployed to backdoor our liberties.

Why should he be believed, though?

Just because Crowder is widely despised as a douchebag doesn't mean this other guy is some long-suffering, truth-telling, put-upon victim.

Fair points. Jared may very well be just as much a duplicitous snake as Crowder, and if he is, I would encourage anyone who has receipts to post them regardless of any NDAs they signed with Jared. I personally have not seen Jared engage in shitty behavior and he seems to walk his Jesus talk, much in opposition to Crowder, who promotes Christianity in public to grift conservitard Boomers and is a terrible husband and duplicitous business partner behind closed doors.

Thank God somebody gets it. His behavior that we have seen so far warrants a public shitting on. That is EXACTLY what the 1st Amendment is all about.

And Crowder is using an NDA to engage in lawfare against Jared and go on fishing expeditions to find other people who have been shitting on Crowder behind his back. I don't care if if Jared signed 20 contracts with blood and semen saying he won't say Crowder demanded he take his dog on walks as part of his producer duties, the government should not be enforcing that contract because it necessarily requires enforcing punishments for speech.

 

[SBG]

You can put whatever name you want when donating to a GoFundMe. If I recall, someone gave Monty $50 as "Kayla Rekieta". Most likely this is someone donating to Jared and using Bill Richmond's name as a joke.

People were saying that about the Ben Shapiro donation then he chimed in. Crowder is just that unlikeable that people will rally together to try getting one over on him.

The only ones coming to Crowder’s defense are people that haven’t worked for him and are instead treating this as a gender war topic like Pearl Davis(sp?), Quartering, and Tim Pool. At the same time the gender war angle is getting Hillary defenders like Lauren Southern as people treat it as vile to spend more on attorneys than the wife who is also using Crowder’s money on her attorneys.

So they don’t seem like they’re defending either side due to liking them so much as it playing into the gender shit they’d already talk about.

Crowder has pretty much zero real friends in this thanks to being a prick to so many.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Even if Notgay did fuck up with the NDA, the law doesn't protect the likes of Crowder from being publicly shit on because he's an abusive sociopath.

Wrong as always, child. The legal system protects abusive sociopaths frequently. One merely has to be affiliated with the right organization or entity, the right race and/or sexuality, or be lucky enough to get in front of a retarded piece of shit judge.

Crowder is LARPing as a white, straight, conservative male so he's unfortunatley not the right kind of abusive sociopath.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Crowder has pretty much zero real friends in this thanks to being a prick to so many.

Even if he was nice to them, the Conservative establishment wants him gone. That’s been clear for some time,

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Makes sense Ben would chip in. Crowder rightfully pointed out his company did not practice what they preached. And he got absolutely buttblasted. I could totally see him chiping in out of spite, even if he knew everything was bs.

 

[Maverick Vile]

Being nice to even your average depressed/BPD modern woman is most certainly not a solution…

There's putting a hoe in her place, and there's witholding love and affection from your 9 months pregnant wife because she won't put on gloves and pick up dog poop potentially tainted with birth-defect-inducing dog meds. Yes, I know the video is edited, but barring some radical recontextualization, it really seems like he's being nasty to her over the dog poop, oh, and taking the only car they own to get groceries because he might need to visit his dad later. Crowder's a millionaire, by the way.

 

[BikeLock]

There's putting a hoe in her place, and there's witholding love and affection from your 9 months pregnant wife because she won't put on gloves and pick up dog poop potentially tainted with birth-defect-inducing dog meds. Yes, I know the video is edited, but barring some radical recontextualization, it really seems like he's being nasty to her over the dog poop, oh, and taking the only car they own to get groceries because he might need to visit his dad later. Crowder's a millionaire, by the way.

I as a single man who is not a millionaire owns three cars, two of which run and drive. The only family that I know of that only has one family vehicle is my buddy who JUST retired from the Air Force and moved everything they had from Alaska, so they had to sell their other vehicle.

Owning only one car if you live in an area where public transport is a non-option is very rare in the US.

Edit: Literally everyone in my office has more than one vehicle, right on down to the non-married secretary, for example.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

Owning only one car if you live in an area where public transport is a non-option is very rare in the US.

Yea the only families I know in America that only have one (or zero) cars are in Chicago.

When I first saw that clip, I wondered if Crowder actually wasn't as profitable as people though. Sure they're pulling in a few million, but they gotta pay all that staff, build the studio (BrazeTV has built studios for people, but considering Crowder still has his, I don't think they got an offer or declined it if they did). So maybe everyone is only making $60k/yr and they literally couldn't afford a second car?

But they admitted on air Hilary was getting 25k/month. Now was she grifting for money when she was looking for a job? Maybe, but there's also a chance that ~20k of that goes to the lawyers each month too. In any case, he could and certainly afforded a vehicle for both of them in cash .. like literally every couple with children that I know not in a city with trains.

That was either being insanely cheap or it was a control mechanism.

I still think it was shitty she cut and released that video. They're honestly both really shitty people. I think about abusive couples and sometimes it's one way, but a lot of times they're both really shit to each other. There's another version of that Ring camera clip too with a few extra seconds where he starts apologizing and says he didn't mean it.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

There's another version of that Ring camera clip too

There always is. lol

with a few extra seconds where he starts apologizing and says he didn't mean it.

Which is likely true. People say a lot of dumb stuff when frustrated or angry and often times it can ruin things fast even if it was just said in the heat of the moment.

His wife was is a red head right?

 

[SBG]

Yea the only families I know in America that only have one (or zero) cars are in Chicago.

When I first saw that clip, I wondered if Crowder actually wasn't as profitable as people though. Sure they're pulling in a few million, but they gotta pay all that staff, build the studio (BrazeTV has built studios for people, but considering Crowder still has his, I don't think they got an offer or declined it if they did). So maybe everyone is only making $60k/yr and they literally couldn't afford a second car?

But they admitted on air Hilary was getting 25k/month. Now was she grifting for money when she was looking for a job? Maybe, but there's also a chance that ~20k of that goes to the lawyers each month too. In any case, he could and certainly afforded a vehicle for both of them in cash .. like literally every couple with children that I know not in a city with trains.

That was either being insanely cheap or it was a control mechanism.

I still think it was shitty she cut and released that video. They're honestly both really shitty people. I think about abusive couples and sometimes it's one way, but a lot of times they're both really shit to each other. There's another version of that Ring camera clip too with a few extra seconds where he starts apologizing and says he didn't mean it.

Feel like people often end up marrying those like themselves.

As far as the money, the $25k is getting paid by the company to her for her attorneys. This seems separate to any child support which she may or may not be receiving at the moment. I’d assume there’s some kind of temporary child support?

So there’s enough money going around they probably could’ve had a couple extra cars just for fun. Or afford Ubers to get around. They’d had enough money to not worry about any of this petty bullshit.