🐱 Steven Universe creator comes out of closet. Admits the show is propaganda

http://www.autostraddle.com/rebecca...iverse-creator-comes-out-at-comic-con-346094/

 

[Gensdupays]

This series and its creators in general seem like something that /pol/ would create as an elaborate parody of the left. Knowing Sugar's past in drawing underage fanart of Ed Edd n' Eddy, it isn't surprising to hear about her strangely sexual views of her work intended for children.

 

[CWCchange]

I look at these blatant propaganda cartoons like Captain Planet and Steven Universe like this: If a kid has been permanently influenced by, and later in life get's their ideas and world views from reflecting back on cartoons, then they were very stupid to begin with.

I can't speak for anyone else, but when I was little, Captain Planet was watched because there was fuck all else on in its time slot. Even kids at the time noticed how stupid and heavy-handed it was, and made fun of it because of it. I remember, when I was like 12, a friend of mine pointed out to me that every time you see the USSR in the show, it's portrayed as some idyllic forest zone and the USA tends to be portrayed as the world's largest slum. We found it fucking hilarious.

Heh, and when the Russian girl calls Hitler a "barbarian" in the Nazi episode. It's like the creators "forgot" about the atrocities also committed by the Red Army during World War II. Clearly they didn't forget about Chernobyl, so cherry-picking at history to push an agenda was evident.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Heh, and when the Russian girl calls Hitler a "barbarian" in the Nazi episode. It's like the creators "forgot" about the atrocities also committed by the Red Army during World War II. Clearly they didn't forget about Chernobyl, so cherry-picking at history to push an agenda was evident.

So in addition to the 90s propaganda of "buy my crap kids", the new millennium now encourages commercialism and 50 official genders in conjunction with alternative sexualities. I have nothing against the LGBT, I just feel like marketing identities and sexuality to kids is crossing a line.

 

[CatParty]

The only good cartoons that don't carry a gay agenda are Christian, Russian, or made in an Asian country. If it isn't any of those, then it's just vintage.

All of animes is gay

 

[Jaimas]

All of animes is gay

That's precisely the point of them though.

Sometimes you wanna watch some gay. Y'know, without looking at the Katsu x Null thread.

 

[Zorceror44]

The way I see it, most works of arts these days at least somewhat try to promote the creator's views.

Also, going off of what other people said, I'm not sure if the show is necessarily trying to sexualize children. I mean, fusion is a thing, but that isn't really comparable to sex as it's more of an emotional bond.

Back on topic, I personally feel like having gay themes in children's cartoons isn't as bad as some people say it is. Disney movies have straight love all the time, and it isn't sexualized, it's just shown as love. And based on what we know about homosexuality scientifically, it is not a choice, so it's certainly not influencing kids. Gay people exist, and kids are becoming more and more aware of it these days.

Still, the EEnE porn was weird as hell.

 

[friedshrimp]

So Sugar and her baby have all the traits of a rabid fangirl? Weeby as shit/obsessed with animu, thick-glasses wearing nerd, draws porn of children's cartoon...

 

[Beaniebon]

Hm I don't really mind. The most annoying thing about SJWs is that they demand other media to change to their wants instead of making their own things. At least this woman actually made her own shit instead of just bitching about other peoples'.

 

[AnOminous]

Hm I don't really mind. The most annoying thing about SJWs is that they demand other media to change to their wants instead of making their own things. At least this woman actually made her own shit instead of just bitching about other peoples'.

Even if it presented some kind of bogus memetic threat, it's not like any kids watch it anyway. So far as I can tell only tumblr watches it.

 

[Bugaboo]

This show is literally the most Tumblr thing in the universe.
Also statistically it's not very popular with it's target demographic (children, not Tumblristas) it seems that the most popular shows children watch are all very Spongebob funny joke nonsense shows, I suppose that's the big trend right now

 

[*Asterisk*]

The way I see it, most works of arts these days at least somewhat try to promote the creator's views.

Also, going off of what other people said, I'm not sure if the show is necessarily trying to sexualize children. I mean, fusion is a thing, but that isn't really comparable to sex as it's more of an emotional bond.

Back on topic, I personally feel like having gay themes in children's cartoons isn't as bad as some people say it is. Disney movies have straight love all the time, and it isn't sexualized, it's just shown as love. And based on what we know about homosexuality scientifically, it is not a choice, so it's certainly not influencing kids. Gay people exist, and kids are becoming more and more aware of it these days.

Still, the EEnE porn was weird as hell.

You can't truly understand how homosexuality is different from friendship until you understand sex, which we don't allow in kids shows anyway.

 

[Male Idiot]

You can't truly understand how homosexuality is different from friendship until you understand sex, which we don't allow in kids shows anyway.

When I was a kid, we know that homosexuality is when two men try to make a baby, and it ends in poo.

Mind we did not know how the baby was supposed to happen, but we know it involved pregnancy, genitals, and no poo until the baby was born.

So I would not say kids can't differentiate being butt buddies from being buddies.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

All of animes is gay

When I was a kid, we know that homosexuality is when two men try to make a baby, and it ends in poo.

Mind we did not know how the baby was supposed to happen, but we know it involved pregnancy, genitals, and no poo until the baby was born.

So I would not say kids can't differentiate being butt buddies from being buddies.

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

Representation in kids' shows isn't a bad thing to go for, but this show puts the cart way before the horse. You want to create a property that appeals to kids, and then put in some good stuff for the parents and older folks. SU starts with "we need to support queer people, pee-oh-seas, and other marginalized people, and make it look like my 90s animes!", and then just sort of hopes the result is colorful enough to appeal to kids. So all it really succeeds in doing is parroting progressive ideas back to the twentysomethings that already agree with them.

On the Ed, Edd & Eddy porn, that's honestly not all that shocking. Animators have always been fucking weirdos behind the scenes.

Spoiler: An actual story from Rugrats' production

"A Storyboard Jam isn't common on shows that allow people to get out frustrations in the actual work, but on cutie kid shows, everyone draws naked women going bonkers on giant cocks in their spare time. Inevitably, through loathing of the project, they start a storyboard jam where a continuous story evolves from artist to artist as they hand around the papers. Everyone gets a turn to do their worst with the characters.

At Klasky, on Rugrats, they started this Jam in 1998 I think. The first page had Angelica being a bitch to Tommy, so Tommy gets her a drink in the kitchen and puts in dog food and draino, then toddles back to Angelica. This is where the story should have heated up, but I saw someone was intervening. I found this lone page yesterday and can't find the rest. When the Jam was handed to me I disgustedly pushed it away, and after seeing it unattended on another artist's desk for 2 days I had the idea to step up the lameness a notch by having Stu come in and be utterly abusive to everyone. The artists who saw my treatment of the characters after their refined, cultured story were getting pissed...

I began the next page (I was on a roll, most people did 3 or 4 panels and I was doing 12 or so in a fervor of home filth) with a close up of Stu's crotch (on model) and then a cut away showing his entire pelvis is in fact two tight and well rounded testicles with a tiny cock dangling from above. Lightening was bouncing around and words appeared saying 'BALLS OF THUNDER!', or something to that effect. After that, the next artists really took it to it's low as Angelica's hands came in to stroke Stu's balls and then incest sex scenes flew all over the pages. I was disgusted, even, when I saw what had become of the comic.

Someone was taking the things between buildings, to dump it on the Thornberry crew when an executive snooty-draws producer saw it, was disturbed, and confiscated the jam... and thus it ended."

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Honestly, I can't say I'm surprised, what with all the speculation and jokes of the Gems being lesbos and all. And Sugar herself looks like someone who wants to be one herself. All and all, I can't say I didn't see this coming.

Also, @Alberto Balsalm, is it wrong that I kinda want to see that storyboard fully animated and voiced?

 

[Skelter Helter]

This would have surprised me a lot less before I read this thread on SoSe by goon troon Shmorky's ex, which goes on a bit about his friendship with Rebecca Sugar and suggests the show was at least in part tranny propaganda.

We used to make horror movies about freaks like that. Now cartoonists send them artwork to recognize them for their bravery. We are truly living in a debased and degraded age.

On the Ed, Edd & Eddy porn, that's honestly not all that shocking. Animators have always been fucking weirdos behind the scenes.

There's a difference between someone working behind the scenes blowing off steam by making an unwholesome, deliberately over the top parody and someone making pornographic fan art.

 

[friedshrimp]

^And then make a kid's series that references sex like no other (fusion = sex metaphor get it? all that shit about consent and all), all in the guise of being a "Pure and innocent" cartoon.

I mean, cartoons having sex jokes is one thing, but this cartoon treats all that seriously. All under a guise of "we're harmless and innocent uwu fluffy pink backgrounds and super cute!"

 

[Big_Boss]

People are treating this as the most amazing and beautiful thing ever and all I can do is shrug. Who cares? Young kids should not be caring about their sexualities to begin with, it's gross to throw this on them. I'm speaking as someone who doesn't usually care about people's sexualities (Except in a few cases.)

I'm sure there's a lot of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people in the cartoon business who doesn't throw around sexualities like Steven Universe does.

 

[AnOminous]

Gay people exist, and kids are becoming more and more aware of it these days.

Worked for Bert and Ernie.

 

[Funnybone]

I found myself watching a recent episode of this garbage and you know what you're right on the money with the weird propaganda

The episode was literally about the two seven year old children (they might be older but they look and act like 7) who fused together to become a gender special because they were obsessed with an adult that was like 10 years older than them.
The whole episode was a metaphor for moving on from an abusive ex or something? It was gross to see the kids all blushy and frustrated over this older dude.

Also hearing 'they' pronouns was obnoxious.

Weird fucking show.