Steven Universe - Now a Griefing Thread

[Haramburger]

To be fair Anime does it because, usually, the manga they are adapting is too short or too behind so they have to make filler episodes that won't contradict what's coming next without losing their audience.

SU didn't have this excuse. In hindsight, a lot of time was wasted in characters that didn't matter in the long run beyond background cameos.

SU was trying to copy anime in a lot of ways, although why they would copy go-nowhere filler characters and plotlines is anybody's guess. Also Sugar offloaded a lot of work beyond the main plot/casting to other teams to just "go wild" and fill their resume by riding on her coattails with shitty unqualified work seems to be what happened with all the off-model bullshit and episodes/characters seemingly not fitting within the series they come from. Not an excuse, just a sad explanation.

I see a lot in common with how much freedom Doc was/is given with The Venture Brothers and Sugar with SU; I think it's an interesting parallel to see how well Doc does with his series and respecting his fans & the continuity/content it's trying to parody and copy, and how badly Sugar wasted her concept with mismanagement, inconsistent writing and pandering to the wrong sorts of people. It's a shame Sugar is probably seen as "good enough" by CN execs for pushing out some video games and merch while you don't see the same return on Venture Bros.

 

[omori]

lol I was actually introduced to SU through my ex, who praised it for having every episode matter to the plotline, no matter how mundane it seemed. I’d love to harp back at him with an “oh really?” if it were possible. Shit teased in episodes went nowhere, conclusions were never earned, world building is surface level.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

To be fair Anime does it because, usually, the manga they are adapting is too short or too behind so the anime team has to make filler episodes that won't contradict what's coming next and without losing their audience's interest.

That and they can be pretty entertaining when they're essentially just having the characters just have fun interactions with the environment and other characters.

 

[Slap47]

The ending was decent but damn... I can't say I'd recommend the show.

I get that one of the messages of the show is that "nothing is resolved" or whatever but it left some things feeling hollow. They avoided the trap of shipping everybody like a certain Avatar sequel so I'll give them some points for that.

 

[NSJAP]

https://youtu.be/x5I97EVZzsQ

 

[ufukiniggas]

Such a bullshit ending - which I expected but fuck.

I knew it was shit when they retgone most of the series? Are we gonna forget Pearl being super over protective in season 1 and 2... maybe 3? Are going to ignore Greg's leg getting broken because he tried to save Steven and Connie from drowning thanks to Lapis? Which counts as gem business. If every porkchop were fucking perfect we wouldn't have hot dogs?! Like Steven Universe was a cute idea with a lot of potential and it just kind of failed. It should take lessons from Bee and Puppycat. Oh well.

I wonder how Rebecca's brother feels about the series now?

 

[Slap47]

Watched the finale, still holding my full thoughts on that for later, , but I don't get why Steven is leaving to live away from literally all his loved ones

I mean it would make sense if he had a career and a job, or was moving to college as a normal kid, but he has none of that. No plan or goal. Is he planning to live off his millionaire dad for the rest of his life?

I just don't see how moving as far away as possible from everyone, helps him "grow" as a person.

He's literally moving out and leaving everybody behind because of a song just like Greg.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

I wonder how Rebecca's brother feels about the series now?

Steven Sugar: 'Does Rebecca hate me that much!?'

 

[madethistocomment]

Well. That was.... lackluster. The speeches everyone was making during Steven's meltdown made me roll my eyes out of my skull- literally no real person talks like that. It felt extremely scripted (which as a screenwriter you don't want at all) and preachy, with all the intricate subtlety of a freight train. They really wanted that message to stick.

Stevonnie kiss was cute tho and I did laugh at Jasper being Jasper, so there were some diamonds in the garbage fire. However, they weren't enough to salvage it. The movie was a better sendoff for the series, you can't change my mind.

Also lmao @ Steven just up and leaving. Isn't he like 16? How the fuck is a 16 year old gonna rent a hotel room or a room at a bed and breakfast? How's he gonna support himself? Poor bastard's gonna end up homeless- vagrant teenagers don't last long, especially ones as.... delicate.... as Steven.

 

[PopRocks]

Steven Sugar: 'Does Rebecca hate me that much!?'

Considering how hyper focused the show was on Steven, I'm think it's more of the opposite.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

I knew it was shit when they retgone most of the series? Are we gonna forget Pearl being super over protective in season 1 and 2... maybe 3? Are going to ignore Greg's leg getting broken because he tried to save Steven and Connie from drowning thanks to Lapis? Which counts as gem business. If every porkchop were fucking perfect we wouldn't have hot dogs?!

Greg's leg and pearl's helicopter parent tendencies were problems that were solved in the series. The porkchop saying even made a return at some point. There weren't any retcons that major.

 

[Private Pyle]

It’s interesting going back to /co/ after the finale; sure there’s still many people shitting on Greg but many people admit it was a disappointing finale and that the show as whole was very flawed, peaking right around season 1. They also point out that for a show tying up loose ends, they just ended up leaving more questions open (what was in the chest?) And this is after they were praising SUF so hard.

On the other hand, I’ve been seeing people literally have mental breakdowns over on #GoodbyeStevenUniverse, crying about how their life is over now. For a fanbase that loves mental health, they sure have a lot of problems if a mediocre cartoon has that much power on their lives.

https://youtu.be/x5I97EVZzsQ

Interesting it took him this long for the movie. Future is going to be a brutal review.

 

[Shitassdeaddude]

rate me optimistic, but you could interpret this as multi-layered messaging of "see how much better Steven copes surrounded by friends and family? The first step of improving your own depression is building a support network this big!" That's a big ask of introverts spoonfed bad advice all the time, but it's honestly a good first step if you can pick the right people and force yourself to open up.

I do agree with this and I think it's a good lesson, but the show shoots itself in the foot at the last second by then having him leave his support group entirely behind.

 

[heyilikeyourmom]

It is one of the miracles of animation that in 2013 a first-time showrunner; a cynical, hard-drinking writer; an innovative cinematographer, and a group of New York stage and radio voice actors were given the keys to a studio and total control, and made a masterpiece. “Steven Universe” is more than a great series; it is a gathering of all the lessons of the emerging era of complex animated storytelling, just as “Birth of a Nation” assembled everything learned at the summit of the silent era, and “2001” pointed the way beyond narrative. These peaks stand above all the others.

 

[Muttnik]

It is one of the miracles of animation that in 2013 a first-time showrunner; a cynical, hard-drinking writer; an innovative cinematographer, and a group of New York stage and radio voice actors were given the keys to a studio and total control, and made a masterpiece. “Steven Universe” is more than a great series; it is a gathering of all the lessons of the emerging era of complex animated storytelling, just as “Birth of a Nation” assembled everything learned at the summit of the silent era, and “2001” pointed the way beyond narrative. These peaks stand above all the others.

Please just admit that you're a troll already.

 

[Private Pyle]

Please just admit that you're a troll already.

He has. Basically one of those “I was just pretending to be ruhtarded” types. Trolling is such a lost art.

 

[friedshrimp]

honestly this is a show that got popular only because of tumblr/the social media pop culture mentality. So things like the LGBT, muh mental health advice and pastel colors got praised to infinite, yet the writing, world-building, pacing, etc etc was often disregarded or only taken into consideration when it touched tumblr feels (that dang Pearl).

 

[The Pink Panther]

Also lmao @ Steven just up and leaving. Isn't he like 16? How the fuck is a 16 year old gonna rent a hotel room or a room at a bed and breakfast? How's he gonna support himself? Poor bastard's gonna end up homeless- vagrant teenagers don't last long, especially ones as.... delicate.... as Steven.

I made the assumption that since Greg is kinda rich, he still has enough money left over to give to Steven as seed money to start his own life.

 

[heyilikeyourmom]

Please just admit that you're a troll already.

Liking an amazing show isn’t trolling.

 

[UnKillFill]

Also lmao @ Steven just up and leaving. Isn't he like 16? How the fuck is a 16 year old gonna rent a hotel room or a room at a bed and breakfast? How's he gonna support himself? Poor bastard's gonna end up homeless- vagrant teenagers don't last long, especially ones as.... delicate.... as Steven.

Theres a "living in a van down by the river" joke in there somewhere.