Steven Universe - Now a Griefing Thread

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

ya'll niggas are late af

This shit came out last year. But seriously, the fact that Stevonnie is intersex means that Stevonnie has a dick and a vagina.

Think about that fucking shit. When a boy and a girl fuse, they become a hermaphrodite. WTF.

Don't most people who are (truly, not just "i don't feel like ur gender rules so i'm intersex!") intersex have "ambiguous genitalia"? I know there's a spectrum where people like Bavid have a full dick but also has some dent that leads nowhere, but most intersex genitalia I can find on the internet is like a horrific pseudoteste with a protomicropeen attached to it.

Either way. They're all cartoon characters, and I'm autistically going to believe none of them have anything in their pants because their clothes are part of their body.

 

[Muttnik]

A good chunk of intersex people typically pick whether or not they want to consider themselves male or female. Most intersex people don't even want people to know they are intersex and are most confident categorizing themselves in the 2-gender rule. This girl I knew in high school was classified as intersex and was perfectly content to identify as a woman seeing how she resembled a woman more and mostly developed female sex characteristics.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that just because you're intersex doesn't mean you automatically have to identify as a tumblr-tard or nonbinary or whatever. Most intersex people would love to just be normal and live a normal life.

 

[Private Pyle]

Second, it's even more apparent when you realize that Rebecca created an entire character based around said concept (Sunstone) and even made them a key character in one of Future's episodes.

I personally like to think that she was kind of forced into a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation so after Tumblr's section of the SU fandom went apeshit over LGBTQ+ representation. On the other hand, I'm starting to agree with what a lot of people are saying about the 2016 election just straight-up destroying the already-fragile sanity of everyone in Hollywood and SoCal.

I’d say it’s a little of Column A, little of Column B. A lot of SU’s online cred was lost after the hype backlash struck, specifically after Bismuth, Uncle Andy and especially Concrete. Even after trying to get back in their good graces, the show was still a far cry from the progressive darling it was during it’s peak, outpaced by shows like She Ra and Craig of the Creek.
On the other hand, I do believe Sugar did buy into the hype people were heaping on her, if her little speech about Never Again is anything to go by. If anything, 2016 broke the fans and the staff.

A good chunk of intersex people typically pick whether or not they want to consider themselves male or female. Most intersex people don't even want people to know they are intersex and are most confident categorizing themselves in the 2-gender rule. This girl I knew in high school was classified as intersex and was perfectly content to identify as a woman seeing how she resembled a woman more and mostly developed female sex characteristics.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that just because you're intersex doesn't mean you automatically have to identify as a tumblr-tard or nonbinary or whatever. Most intersex people would love to just be normal and live a normal life.

This just makes that Stevonnie pic Sugar drew all the more patronizing.

 

[Archeops]

I’d say it’s a little of Column A, little of Column B. A lot of SU’s online cred was lost after the hype backlash struck, specifically after Bismuth, Uncle Andy and especially Concrete. Even after trying to get back in their good graces, the show was still a far cry from the progressive darling it was during it’s peak, outpaced by shows like She Ra and Craig of the Creek.
On the other hand, I do believe Sugar did buy into the hype people were heaping on her, if her little speech about Never Again is anything to go by. If anything, 2016 broke the fans and the staff.

This just makes that Stevonnie pic Sugar drew all the more patronizing.

You mean the one she did for last October's Intersex Awareness Day?

Rebecca Sugar on Twitter

“October 26th is #IntersexAwarenessDay! Please check out @interact_adv to learn about national and state level efforts, and to read #MyIntersexBody stories about the real experiences of intersex people ⭐️ Thanks so much to interACT for this collaboration!”

twitter.com

Yeah, I think we discussed it when it popped up.

 

[NSJAP]

Remember when Peridot taught us that attractive people don't exist?

 

[FluffyTehFennekin]

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Remember when Peridot taught us that attractive people don't exist?

When did this happen? All I remember was her weird commercial for acne cream.

 

[The Pink Panther]

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Remember when Peridot taught us that attractive people don't exist?

No /co/ thread topics allowed here, faggot.

 

[TungstenCarbide]

From what I understand, they specifically sought her out for the role because they were big fans of her music. This actually applies to many of the fusions and the Diamonds, to varying results. As for acting, keep in mind that SU VAs are evaluated on their singing foremost and Garnet is generally a quiet character, so acting was probably the furthest thing from their minds.

I think it worked quite well for a few characters, like Patti Lupone on Yellow Diamond. Yellow's Italian actor makes her too gruff. About Estelle I can understand why they choose her, but in certain scenes Garnet comes off as very inespressive. Yes, the character is quiet, but sometimes she seems... not very nuanced? Here the voice acting agency that worked on Steven Universe just focused on acting, singing ability nothwithstanding. EG Valentina Favazza, I think she makes a wonderful Garnet:

Then they just casted singers for the voice actors who don't want/can't sing. Pearl is voiced by Francesca Manicone, but Pearl's songs are performed by Wanda Rapisardi, a professional singer:

Stevonnie being intersex makes the Steg fusion that much more horrifying. Good job Becky, you utter creep.

Thank you, I didn't need this.

 

[The Un-Clit]

Havent read a single post on this thread.

Just watched the first 2 seasons complete as a total SU virgin.

I have to admit, had this show come out in the mid 80s I would be a complete fucking insufferable faggot about how great this show is as a kid's cartoon that isn't the usual warmed-over pablum like I did get served as a kid, even stuff that was supposed to be appealing to me like the AD&D cartoon and G.I. Joe which were both censored by committees of elderly stuffed shirts, unlike the few anime that made it over at the time like Robotech/Macross, Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato and Battle of the Planets/Gatchaman which, along with Pro (NOT WWF) Wrestling, were my real love as a kid.

I would have probably completely missed the blatant GBYFTFQUBBQ undertone to the writing and instead be SQEEEEEING like a retard about the 'true love' between Ruby and Sapphire while still more in favor of that between Rose Quartz and Greg Universe (as well as wondering just how the fuck that mullet-wearing motherfucker not only seduced a big fat alien gemstone-being with bitchin' Utena hair into not ONLY growing a fucking vagoo for Mr. Universe to fill with his very human cock, but growing an entire fucking reproductive tract so she could bear his hybrid crotchfruit!) But as an adult and father I can see this show as the kind of kid-mind-freeing anti-dogma that His Dark Materials was as a book to my daughters' generation.

The 'agenda' of Rebecca Sugar and/or subsequent show writers is (as of the end of season 2 of 6 anyway) fairly well hidden with the exception of the blatantly gay 'fusion' between Ruby and Sapphire and how Pearl is completely lesbian for Rose Quartz, who snubs her to fuck a longhaired human incel. The overall tolerance of the show is sometimes jarring (like how quickly they accept Peridot despite all the murder and Mengle-like experimenting she got up to in the first 1 and 3/4s of the show) but overall amusing, interesting, and insanely well written for children's television. No wonder it has such an autistic adult fanbase, which it it looks like ima be joining at least by proxy.

Probably gonna regret this post along with my hangover in 12 hours or so, but what the fuck. Time to start binging season 3. (Bless BitTorrent)

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Havent read a single post on this thread.

Just watched the first 2 seasons complete as a total SU virgin.

I have to admit, had this show come out in the mid 80s I would be a complete fucking insufferable faggot about how great this show is as a kid's cartoon that isn't the usual warmed-over pablum like I did get served as a kid, even stuff that was supposed to be appealing to me like the AD&D cartoon and G.I. Joe which were both censored by committees of elderly stuffed shirts, unlike the few anime that made it over at the time like Robotech/Macross, Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato and Battle of the Planets/Gatchaman which, along with Pro (NOT WWF) Wrestling, were my real love as a kid.

I would have probably completely missed the blatant GBYFTFQUBBQ undertone to the writing and instead be SQEEEEEING like an exceptional individual about the 'true love' between Ruby and Sapphire while still more in favor of that between Rose Quartz and Greg Universe (as well as wondering just how the fuck that mullet-wearing motherfucker not only seduced a big fat alien gemstone-being with bitchin' Utena hair into not ONLY growing a fucking vagoo for Mr. Universe to fill with his very human cock, but growing an entire fucking reproductive tract so she could bear his hybrid crotchfruit!) But as an adult and father I can see this show as the kind of kid-mind-freeing anti-dogma that His Dark Materials was as a book to my daughters' generation.

The 'agenda' of Rebecca Sugar and/or subsequent show writers is (as of the end of season 2 of 6 anyway) fairly well hidden with the exception of the blatantly gay 'fusion' between Ruby and Sapphire and how Pearl is completely lesbian for Rose Quartz, who snubs her to fuck a longhaired human incel. The overall tolerance of the show is sometimes jarring (like how quickly they accept Peridot despite all the murder and Mengle-like experimenting she got up to in the first 1 and 3/4s of the show) but overall amusing, interesting, and insanely well written for children's television. No wonder it has such an autistic adult fanbase, which it it looks like ima be joining at least by proxy.

Probably gonna regret this post along with my hangover in 12 hours or so, but what the fuck. Time to start binging season 3. (Bless BitTorrent)

oh you're going to regret a lot my friend. prepare to be shit on by becky and 1000 assholes.

 

[Private Pyle]

oh you're going to regret a lot my friend. prepare to be shit on by becky and 1000 assholes.

Shhh, you have to let the regret sink in organically. It’s no fun if they get a warning.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Shhh, you have to let the regret sink in organically. It’s no fun if they get a warning.

He's drunk who cares he won't remember this

 

[Sayon]

Havent read a single post on this thread.

Just watched the first 2 seasons complete as a total SU virgin.

I have to admit, had this show come out in the mid 80s I would be a complete fucking insufferable faggot about how great this show is as a kid's cartoon that isn't the usual warmed-over pablum like I did get served as a kid, even stuff that was supposed to be appealing to me like the AD&D cartoon and G.I. Joe which were both censored by committees of elderly stuffed shirts, unlike the few anime that made it over at the time like Robotech/Macross, Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato and Battle of the Planets/Gatchaman which, along with Pro (NOT WWF) Wrestling, were my real love as a kid.

I would have probably completely missed the blatant GBYFTFQUBBQ undertone to the writing and instead be SQEEEEEING like an exceptional individual about the 'true love' between Ruby and Sapphire while still more in favor of that between Rose Quartz and Greg Universe (as well as wondering just how the fuck that mullet-wearing motherfucker not only seduced a big fat alien gemstone-being with bitchin' Utena hair into not ONLY growing a fucking vagoo for Mr. Universe to fill with his very human cock, but growing an entire fucking reproductive tract so she could bear his hybrid crotchfruit!) But as an adult and father I can see this show as the kind of kid-mind-freeing anti-dogma that His Dark Materials was as a book to my daughters' generation.

The 'agenda' of Rebecca Sugar and/or subsequent show writers is (as of the end of season 2 of 6 anyway) fairly well hidden with the exception of the blatantly gay 'fusion' between Ruby and Sapphire and how Pearl is completely lesbian for Rose Quartz, who snubs her to fuck a longhaired human incel. The overall tolerance of the show is sometimes jarring (like how quickly they accept Peridot despite all the murder and Mengle-like experimenting she got up to in the first 1 and 3/4s of the show) but overall amusing, interesting, and insanely well written for children's television. No wonder it has such an autistic adult fanbase, which it it looks like ima be joining at least by proxy.

Probably gonna regret this post along with my hangover in 12 hours or so, but what the fuck. Time to start binging season 3. (Bless BitTorrent)

You wouldn't tip fedoras would you?

 

[The Un-Clit]

Erk.....kinda forgot I hit save on that. I was supposed to have cleared it out. Well, not my first nor last regretted drunkpost.

Well since we're here, and I still havent' read the posts on the thread since I am only halfway through the series/movie/sequel series because spoilers, but a general opinion question:

Is it just me or does season 4 take a big step backwards in the early portion? We start off with some Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner bullshit with Peridot and Steven, then 2 eps focussing on the intersex problems of 'Steveonnie' and then an episode that feels right out of a 1980's Saturday Morning Special about how amazing the library is, complete with character making the moral point staring into the camera. I mean what the fuck? Is this a show for teens or for fucking primary school kids?

Am I off base here, or do others feel that too? The show's been more hit then miss for the most part, but 5 clunkers in a row is a little concerning. I hope it gets better soon.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Erk.....kinda forgot I hit save on that. I was supposed to have cleared it out. Well, not my first nor last regretted drunkpost.

Well since we're here, and I still havent' read the posts on the thread since I am only halfway through the series/movie/sequel series because spoilers, but a general opinion question:

Is it just me or does season 4 take a big step backwards in the early portion? We start off with some Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner bullshit with Peridot and Steven, then 2 eps focussing on the intersex problems of 'Steveonnie' and then an episode that feels right out of a 1980's Saturday Morning Special about how amazing the library is, complete with character making the moral point staring into the camera. I mean what the fuck? Is this a show for teens or for fucking primary school kids?

Am I off base here, or do others feel that too? The show's been more hit then miss for the most part, but 5 clunkers in a row is a little concerning. I hope it gets better soon.

Yes....season 4 does indeed take a huge hit. I too, marathonned the show back in March, and from what I can tell you're in for some utter shit. This is only the beginning of the shitfests that are seasons 4 and 5 . At that point, the show went from being aggressively mediocre to absolute horseshit. Especially season 5. Prepare for the homestretch to be an utter waste of your time and your life after the arc that carries over from the end of season 4 ends off.

 

[Wabbu]

The show got somewhat "formulaic arcs" on the later seasons

It was always a space adventure followed by nothin happening on the town
this got so repetitive that I forget the order of the space adventures and which pointless towny adventure followed each space adventure,

 

[madethistocomment]

I will be forever bummed that they did absolutely nothing with Lars of the Stars. Seeing him fuck around in space with the Off Colors could have been a blast to watch- hopping around from planet to planet, going on all sorts of adventures, flirting with hot alien girls, messing with Emerald etc, etc. But nah, gotta follow Steven doing boring townie shit. That's far more interesting, apparently.

 

[omori]

I will be forever bummed that they did absolutely nothing with Lars of the Stars. Seeing him fuck around in space with the Off Colors could have been a blast to watch- hopping around from planet to planet, going on all sorts of adventures, flirting with hot alien girls, messing with Emerald etc, etc. But nah, gotta follow Steven doing boring townie shit. That's far more interesting, apparently.

I can get behind this. Sadie is out of the picture, Lars is his own free man.

 

[Private Pyle]

I will be forever bummed that they did absolutely nothing with Lars of the Stars. Seeing him fuck around in space with the Off Colors could have been a blast to watch- hopping around from planet to planet, going on all sorts of adventures, flirting with hot alien girls, messing with Emerald etc, etc. But nah, gotta follow Steven doing boring townie shit. That's far more interesting, apparently.

I can get behind this. Sadie is out of the picture, Lars is his own free man.

The beginning and end of Lars’ “arc” will always be frustrating to me. After doing fuck all with the space pirate storyline, Lars at least got his goal of reuniting with Sadie, his friends and his family and live out his hobby that he was ashamed of...only to go back into space because reasons (Seriously, what about his parents that were worried sick about him?).
On the other hand, given the crew and the fanbase of this show, maybe we should be glad a potentially good storyline wasn’t butchered.

Erk.....kinda forgot I hit save on that. I was supposed to have cleared it out. Well, not my first nor last regretted drunkpost.

Well since we're here, and I still havent' read the posts on the thread since I am only halfway through the series/movie/sequel series because spoilers, but a general opinion question:

Is it just me or does season 4 take a big step backwards in the early portion? We start off with some Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner bullshit with Peridot and Steven, then 2 eps focussing on the intersex problems of 'Steveonnie' and then an episode that feels right out of a 1980's Saturday Morning Special about how amazing the library is, complete with character making the moral point staring into the camera. I mean what the fuck? Is this a show for teens or for fucking primary school kids?

Am I off base here, or do others feel that too? The show's been more hit then miss for the most part, but 5 clunkers in a row is a little concerning. I hope it gets better soon.

Yeah SU is a very inconsistent show when it comes to tone; for a show that’s praised for tackling dark and adult subject matter, there’s just as many episodes that are patronizingly kiddie, which supports my theory that the staff were those weird kids that took animated PSAs too seriously. The dissonance might have alienated actual kids from tuning in.
As for if it gets better, let me just say this; if you decide to quit by the time the season five finale rolls around, I will not blame you in the slightest.

 

[The Un-Clit]

Yeah SU is a very inconsistent show when it comes to tone; for a show that’s praised for tackling dark and adult subject matter, there’s just as many episodes that are patronizingly kiddie, which supports my theory that the staff were those weird kids that took animated PSAs too seriously. The dissonance might have alienated actual kids from tuning in.

As for if it gets better, let me just say this; if you decide to quit by the time the season five finale rolls around, I will not blame you in the slightest.

They went to Korea....and visited their own animation studio making the SU show there......Who the fuck wrote this episode, Steven King? At least the ep is dealing with some Gemworld shit at last again. Onion's little buddies episode almost made me take a hiatus.

It was surreal as fuck hearing Carl from ATHF make an appearance mind you. I wonder if Dave Willis will appear as 'Uncle Andy' on a regular basis now?

Okay that ended...interesting. Back to the rest of S4.