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This is all weasel worded bullshit from Labour and Annaliese Dodds.
They're going to make getting a GRC easier, as easy as a visit to your GP which is defacto self-ID by the backdoor.
Since it's actually illegal already to ask if someone has a GRC, the UK operates on the presumption that trannies do, so as not to get done under the Equality Act, or fall foul of the EHRC, so we technical already have stealth self-ID.
Even though only around 5000 GRCs have been issued.
The law is an ass an and the GRA 2004 needs to be repealed.
Don't trust Labour on this, Keir won't even say "single sex spaces' he keeps talking about "safe spaces", disingenuous shithead.
Once a lawyer, always a lawyer.
>Yea well they still win any way
Doomer be gone. I am fucking getting tired of you black pilled faggots. Somehow it is never enough. It is like a purity spiral reading your posts. You never want to admit that the right are getting wins on this shit, and that yes if Labour want to win power, They have to drop the tranny shit in a river with rocks tied to it. It already sunk a mainstream party in the UK already. It is political suicide to run it in a manifesto. The only people who would vote on the issue is asshole commie students and they have been a small force in voting for years. Half of them are so drunk from the night before they don't bother showing up to the poling station. Fucking read the report in to the 2019 election. It was them who made them lose. By going along with the "don't talk to the other side" shit and echo chambering themselves to death.
Kier is many things, blind to political reality he is not. The 2 people who could have supported it have already been kicked to the curb. Corbyn and Abbot. It would be funny seeing the PMQs after he goes back on his position on trannys if he even dared, all the Tory's would do is constantly bring up his flip flopping views. Exposing him for the weak leader he is.
 
>Yea well they still win any way
Doomer be gone. I am fucking getting tired of you black pilled faggots. Somehow it is never enough. It is like a purity spiral reading your posts. You never want to admit that the right are getting wins on this shit, and that yes if Labour want to win power, They have to drop the tranny shit in a river with rocks tied to it. It already sunk a mainstream party in the UK already. It is political suicide to run it in a manifesto. The only people who would vote on the issue is asshole commie students and they have been a small force in voting for years. Half of them are so drunk from the night before they don't bother showing up to the poling station. Fucking read the report in to the 2019 election. It was them who made them lose. By going along with the "don't talk to the other side" shit and echo chambering themselves to death.
Kier is many things, blind to political reality he is not. The 2 people who could have supported it have already been kicked to the curb. Corbyn and Abbot. It would be funny seeing the PMQs after he goes back on his position on trannys if he even dared, all the Tory's would do is constantly bring up his flip flopping views. Exposing him for the weak leader he is.
Honestly, the only thing it proves is that labour knows how unpopular it is with the public.If they do a 180 on it then i really dont get why this one issue is what they're willing to die on.It makes no sense, and it'll just be this tug of war between the left and right.Just let it go.
 
Doomer be gone. I am fucking getting tired of you black pilled faggots
If me explaining Labours actual proposals on the issue, and the law as it stands is being a doomer, fair enough, that's me telt.
I just get sick of the obfuscation, but I suppose not all politicians can have the directness of Kemi Badenoch.
 
If me explaining Labours actual proposals on the issue, and the law as it stands is being a doomer, fair enough, that's me telt.
I just get sick of the obfuscation, but I suppose not all politicians can have the directness of Kemi Badenoch.
Honestly if he even wiffed about tranny's in the lead up to next years election, his party would be dead. I know you think politics is all back room deals and Tom Clancy novels. But sometimes they are forced to not back an issue that is a clear fucking loss for them despite them personally supporting it. You saying ""well they will do it anyway" is fucking stupid. As then it hits them next time they are up for votes. Party's want to stay in power just as much as gaining it the first place. I would bet every adviser that Kier has right now is saying STFU and drop on the tranny issue. As it is not resonating with the common working class man. The people they need the votes from.
Labour threw everything and the Kitchen sink last election. Free internet, free everything and they still fucking lost. Backing a batshit policy of putting tranny rapists in with women, they would never have a smell of power for 40 years. It may look like 50% of the nation are trannys or supporters. But they are a false majority manufactured on twitter. They lost last time by listening to twitter. Think they are going to make the same mistake again?
 
The (UK) Labour Party is backing away from troon insanity. Statement from the party. TL;DR:
  • Sex and gender are different.
  • Safeguards are needed to protect women and girls from predators who might abuse the system.
  • Labour will defend single sex spaces.
  • Dropping commitment to self-ID.
If you believe this is in the first place or believe this is news or noteworthy, you are the exact type of retard they're trying to convince to vote them in.
 
>Even when you win you still lose goy
Same doomer black pilled faggotry.
I'm not blackpilled. Notoriously fencesitting people like Keir saying something will never mean anything - him saying that doesn't affect the bullshit my local Labour councillors do. Especially in regards to trangender ideology and 15 minute cities.
When people at the lower levels like Khan and other people who control towns and cities start backing away, then it's a win.
 
I'm not blackpilled. Notoriously fencesitting people like Keir saying something will never mean anything - him saying that doesn't affect the bullshit my local Labour councillors do.
When people at the lower levels like Khan and other people who control towns and cities start backing away, then it's a win.
>It is not a win unless my enemy starts minecrafting trannys.
Endless purity spiralling. Of course he would not put laws in place to start revving up the tranny work camps.
 
That's literally not what I said at all. Post 2021 accounts proving once again that they're all created by brainlets.
Your opening post about this said how we should not believe it and how it is fake and he is going to AH HA GOT YOU after he wins by flip flopping and allowing tranny rapists in women's prisons. A policy so fucking toxic it sunk the SNP. Okay bro, i know you want to LARP as a political underdog rebel. How he could not damage Labours 2024 run by backing that policy? He would have to put in the manifesto.
 
If you believe this is in the first place or believe this is news or noteworthy, you are the exact type of retard they're trying to convince to vote them in.
It is noteworthy because troons are attempting (with some success) to destroy the lives of anyone who says this sort of thing. Their being forced to adopt a more reasonable position and endure backlash from their side's extremists is a sign of progress. The news here is not what they will/won't do, but the mere fact that they said this.
 
It is noteworthy because troons are attempting (with some success) to destroy the lives of anyone who says this sort of thing. Their being forced to adopt a more reasonable position and endure backlash from their side's extremists is a sign of progress. The news here is not what they will/won't do, but the mere fact that they said this.
Exactly, 3 years ago he would not have dared say it. It is solid proof that the threat of insane troons sperging out is starting to be tuned out by mainstream party's.
It is just tiring to see people, constantly post that their leftist political enemy's wont back TTD. Like duh. They care more about getting approval of their enemy's than exploiting a loss.
 
It is noteworthy because troons are attempting (with some success) to destroy the lives of anyone who says this sort of thing. Their being forced to adopt a more reasonable position and endure backlash from their side's extremists is a sign of progress. The news here is not what they will/won't do, but the mere fact that they said this.
Yes, the fact that they said this means they're now bright enough to read a room. Need I remind you that the ruling party has had "Curbing immigration" in the manifesto and as their most prominent running policy for 13 years. It's simply a policy popular with the public.

Labour can U-turn on Transgenders, ULEZ, LTN's, all of it but it won't mean anything when there's people like Khan in their party and in power who are simply defiant and will continue their crusades.
Until things start happening at the local level, it is the exact same thing to me, not news at all.

Exactly, 3 years ago he would not have dared say it. It is solid proof that the threat of insane troons sperging out is starting to be tuned out by mainstream party's.
It is just tiring to see people, constantly post that their leftist political enemy's wont back TTD. Like duh. They care more about getting approval of their enemy's than exploiting a loss.
Nobody cares about TTD unless they're terminally online, you absolute buffoon.
 
Yes, the fact that they said this means they're now bright enough to read a room. Need I remind you that the ruling party has had "Curbing immigration" in the manifesto and as their most prominent running policy for 13 years.

Labour can U-turn on Transgenders, ULEZ, LTN's, all of it but it won't mean anything when there's people like Khan in their party and in power who are simply defiant and will continue their crusades.
Until things start happening at the local level, it is the exact same thing to me, not news at all.


Nobody cares about TTD unless they're terminally online, you absolute buffoon.
The TTD comment was sarcasm bro. Stop being a spastic.
> DEY CAN U TURN
Not unless they want to be out of power for another 40 years. The SNP were supposed to be this whale of a party and this policy sunk them. Why do you seem to think Labour will be the ones who can champion this policy? As i said, it would have to be put in their 2024 election manifesto, and as soon as the copy's make their way in to the hands of people Labour are a dead party. No real man on the street, wants troons in women's prisons. ULEZ is even back firing on them at the moment bro. Khan is a paper tiger.
 
The TTD comment was sarcasm bro. Stop being a spastic.
> DEY CAN U TURN
Not unless they want to be out of power for another 40 years. The SNP were supposed to be this whale of a party and this policy sunk them. Why do you seem to think Labour will be the ones who can champion this policy? As i said, it would have to be put in their 2024 election manifesto, and as soon as the copy's make their way in to the hands of people Labour are a dead party. No real man on the street, wants troons in women's prisons. ULEZ is even back firing on them at the moment bro. Khan is a paper tiger.
Stop screeching about TTD then, if you don't want to be treated like a spastic.

The SNP sunk because of all the frivolous spending and illegal money shenanigans Sturgeon was pulling, not because of Gender ID even as damaging as that was. Sturgeon refusing to budge an inch even in the face of her policies' direct consequences only soured public opinion on her - she was replaced rather swiftly by Yousaf in the same way that Reddit changes CEO when they do something unpopular.
I'm not saying Labour will champion it, I'm saying they'll just throw out some safe hot air about women's spaces and not grooming kids in schools to cut their genitals from their body in the same manner that the Conservatives do with cutting immigration. It'll make the liberals screech, but they're not going to vote for anyone else anyway: The Greens and Lib Dems are too small and Hell will freeze over before a Tory vote.
If something changes out of it, great, but it is just not likely. I just don't think it's a win or a sign of much better unless change begins to happen - especially at the local level where it really matters. Under a Labour government Hospitals aren't going to suddenly stop calling women "People of Childbearing Potential" or some shite, and changing rooms aren't going to stop allowing TiMs to expose themselves to girls. You're shit out of luck if you even for a second think policing will get better.
Not unless there's a real push, which isn't likely considering Labour changing their public face will satisfy a lot of the people who vote Labour anyway for all the other things but don't like transgender ideology.

If you think Labour, who's current leader rules by focus group, changing their public facing view on this is a win, you're entitled to it but I think you're an absolute fool for that and should be pushing the party far harder than it is being pushed now especially considering their almost-guaranteed election landslide.
 
Stop screeching about TTD then, if you don't want to be treated like a spastic.
It is not me trying to get Kier to agree with my political views bro. Screeching about how he personally supports it is irrelevant to the voting public who fucking hate it and will vote against it. The fucking focus groups have shown this over and over again. It would be a death sentence if he got in to power and then flip flopped on it. He may get 4 years in power, but a 40 year wait in the political desert is waiting for them after it.
>trying to downplay the role that the tranny policy had in their downfall this hard
It was in the news cycle for weeks about how they were bleeding support over the policy. Not even the fucking Guardian could damage control it.
Bro, i know you don't want to admit that i was right. But come on this embarrassing.
 
The TTD comment was sarcasm bro. Stop being a spastic.
> DEY CAN U TURN
Not unless they want to be out of power for another 40 years. The SNP were supposed to be this whale of a party and this policy sunk them. Why do you seem to think Labour will be the ones who can champion this policy? As i said, it would have to be put in their 2024 election manifesto, and as soon as the copy's make their way in to the hands of people Labour are a dead party. No real man on the street, wants troons in women's prisons. ULEZ is even back firing on them at the moment bro. Khan is a paper tiger.
"It wuz trannies wot sank the SNP" - partly, if you ignore the entire financial crime, missing donations, the arrest of Murrell and Sturgeon, the Campervan (lolz) and the fact the party is now nearly bankrupt.
Now, due to all of the above they may not have the funds to finance the next GE, but yeah, it was one tranny.
If you don't like cold, hard reality, you're on the wrong website.
 
"It wuz trannies wot sank the SNP" - partly, if you ignore the entire financial crime, missing donations, the arrest of Murrell and Sturgeon, the Campervan (lolz) and the fact the party is now nearly bankrupt.
Now, due to all of the above they may not have the funds to finance the next GE, but yeah, it was one tranny.
If you don't like cold, hard reality, you're on the wrong website.
LMFAO
I accept your concession.
 
"It wuz trannies wot sank the SNP" - partly, if you ignore the entire financial crime, missing donations, the arrest of Murrell and Sturgeon, the Campervan (lolz) and the fact the party is now nearly bankrupt.
Now, due to all of the above they may not have the funds to finance the next GE, but yeah, it was one tranny.
If you don't like cold, hard reality, you're on the wrong website.
Corbin also got destroyed for his far-left policies and his actually-based take on Israel.
 
LMFAO
I accept your concession.
It was in the news cycle for weeks about how they were bleeding support over the policy. Not even the fucking Guardian could damage control it.
The problem with the GRR bill was Sturgeon couldn't drop it, even if she wanted to. It was a manifesto promise, and not only that, a part of the coalition deal with the Greens.
It was going nowhere, because not only was that pressure on her, it was doing one of her favourite things - starting a fight with Westminster, she loves that shit.
Regardless of polling, she was seeing it through, it's far more likely she knew what was coming with the police, and took the opportunity to fuck off.
Edit: Fuck this. I'm out. This is retarded, and the wrong fucking place, this is the gender critical meta thread, not the remedial UKpol meta thread.
I've got zero desire to participate in a shitty mass debates migration.
 
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