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HSMOF, Tubular and Mendoza all put the nail in the coffin. Really, from a certain standpoint, Chris gets stressed over absolutely nothing.
 
Marvin said:
mendoza said:
In spite of his state of conscious denial, deep down he knows he doesn't live anything resembling normal life. Deep down he knows he is never going to get a heartsweet in his current state. There is an ever widening chasm between his life and that of a semi-normal man his age. Even the life of a typical basement dwelling man-child who at least bathes semi-regularly, doesn't live in squalor, doesn't crap their drawers and holds down an occasional part time job is still lightyears ahead of where he is. And his life is rapidly passing him by and many ships have sailed that are never coming back.

What hope does he really have? He may not acknowledge any of this publicly. Quite possibly not even in his conscious thoughts. But you can bet they are there deep down. He isn't that slow-in-the-mind.
Chris is a lot stupider than you actually realize. He doesn't know any of the truths about himself. He really seems to think he's thin, handsome and that the school board kept them from selling their house. And really, it's not like conspiracy theories are rare. Tons of people out there believe the USA didn't land on the moon, for example.

I might've said this before, but if I encountered Chris for the first time today, I wouldn't believe it either. I wouldn't believe that someone could be as stupid as Chris is. But Alec and I have read huge amounts of Chris' sperging over the years. The shit that he types, you couldn't imagine. Chris really is that stupid.

I've been wondering, has Chris ever mentioned about what he's going to do after Barb's no longer there to take care of him? He reads our posts, so he must have thought about it.
 
CatParty said:
Tubular Monkey said:
Chris is miserable because he chooses to be miserable. It comes mainly from imitating his pig of a mother. A person's life can be a godawful tragedy or a complete triumph and be the same exact life. All that really matters is your own perspective on what happens. Barb the pig has taught Chris to oink angrily whenever he doesn't have what he wants. He is disrespectful and selfish. Everything is a tragedy to him. Every McDonald's order not filled quickly enough and every Flipnote that requires an extra few minutes to transfer from his DS to 3DS is THE WORST FUCKING THING EVER. Honestly, I don't care. I take that back. Chris makes himself his own worst enemy and is the cause of his own stress. Since I can't stand Chris, I enjoy this fact. He is so spoiled that he makes himself miserable. He can't even come close to being happy with it. He chooses misery, and it's a fitting punishment for him. And even if he had the things he wanted, his brain is hard wired into finding something new to complain about.

Stress is all relative. You and I might worry about making rent, repairing the car and guaranteeing that our futures are secure. Chris worries about cartoon characters and video games. His stress level is probably comparable to ours. It's not legitimate stress, but it's still making him less healthy. We might drop dead at 65 because we've worked ourselves to the bone. Chris might drop dead at 38 because My Little Ponies season 5 hasn't been released on Blu Ray yet. A fitting end.



dead. on. he lives for misery.

I have a saying I use for people like this... "They're only happy when they're miserable" Some people only seem to come alive when they find some sort of insignificant thing to blow out of proportion and moan and whinge about. Trust me, I'm from the UK and fuck me, us brits know how to moan!

Thing is with Chris is he'd love to be happy with his life, but right now his misery is all he has (in his mind at least) so he uses it to define his very being. Just look at all the more recent pictures with him looking all miserable and self pitying.

He does seem to have some stuff to be legitimately unhappy about, his fathers death or Barbs iron grip on him for example. He just needs to separate the legitimate stuff from his made up "stress"
 
raymond said:
Marvin said:
mendoza said:
In spite of his state of conscious denial, deep down he knows he doesn't live anything resembling normal life. Deep down he knows he is never going to get a heartsweet in his current state. There is an ever widening chasm between his life and that of a semi-normal man his age. Even the life of a typical basement dwelling man-child who at least bathes semi-regularly, doesn't live in squalor, doesn't crap their drawers and holds down an occasional part time job is still lightyears ahead of where he is. And his life is rapidly passing him by and many ships have sailed that are never coming back.

What hope does he really have? He may not acknowledge any of this publicly. Quite possibly not even in his conscious thoughts. But you can bet they are there deep down. He isn't that slow-in-the-mind.
Chris is a lot stupider than you actually realize. He doesn't know any of the truths about himself. He really seems to think he's thin, handsome and that the school board kept them from selling their house. And really, it's not like conspiracy theories are rare. Tons of people out there believe the USA didn't land on the moon, for example.

I might've said this before, but if I encountered Chris for the first time today, I wouldn't believe it either. I wouldn't believe that someone could be as stupid as Chris is. But Alec and I have read huge amounts of Chris' sperging over the years. The shit that he types, you couldn't imagine. Chris really is that stupid.

I've been wondering, has Chris ever mentioned about what he's going to do after Barb's no longer there to take care of him? He reads our posts, so he must have thought about it.



chris has it in his head that life is going to magically become better for him once she dies. he's patiently waiting each day for her to pass so he can finally grow up and live his life. which ironically enough, is pretty much half over.
 
raymond said:
I've been wondering, has Chris ever mentioned about what he's going to do after Barb's no longer there to take care of him? He reads our posts, so he must have thought about it.
Heh, well, while he occasionally reads a post or two on here, I don't think he's thought much about it. This isn't based on any private I have or anything, just speculation, but I think that he imagines his life in two pieces: his living-with-his-parents time and his heartsweet, post-parents time. The heartsweet time would be very CWCville-esque, except he'd be the househusband and would have no responsibilities.

The thing is, I don't think he's thought much about how the first period would transition into the second period. In fact, before Bob's death, I bet he didn't think about the transition at all. After Bob's death, he might've thought about it a bit, but not much. He was more thinking about how his current life sucked, not really thinking about how it could get worse.

Anyway, even if he did think about Barb's death a bit, I really doubt he thought about any practical matters that would happen after her death.

CatParty said:
raymond said:
I've been wondering, has Chris ever mentioned about what he's going to do after Barb's no longer there to take care of him? He reads our posts, so he must have thought about it.

chris has it in his head that life is going to magically become better for him once she dies. he's patiently waiting each day for her to pass so he can finally grow up and live his life. which ironically enough, is pretty much half over.
He knows it's Barb that is holding him back, but I don't think he's directly connecting her death to freedom. Chris rarely can put 2 and 2 together. It's mostly us on the cwcki forums are the ones who are putting 2 and 2 together when it comes to Barb's death meaning freedom for Chris.
 
Marvin said:
Chris rarely can put 2 and 2 together.

When he does put 2 and 2 together, it usually ends up looking like a 6 with extra chromosomes.

I think Chris's rationale is always, "If it wasn't for ______, life would be perfect." But he always makes sure there is a ______. I wouldn't be surprised if his current ______ is Barb needing his care.
 
I don't think Chris actually understands what "stress" means, much like how he doesn't understand "naive". He just understands them as having negative connotations and uses them as blanket terms as needed. Where "naive" is used as a descriptor for "stupid" or as a malicious insult, stress is used when Chris feels something negative toward himself, but can't figure it out. Where you or I would be stressed out because we have a lot of work that seems to pile up, or are losing sleep over relationship problems, or have to scrape up quick money we don't have in short amount of time should something unexpected happen, Chris would feel stress when he doesn't feel like drawing Sonichu, or has to explain why a totally fit and in-shape adult such as himself has man-titties, or when he spends all his money in one shot and has to wait for his next monthly tugboat. Likely Chris muddles feelings of depression, confusion, loneliness and lethargy into his understanding of "stress" because it's easier to justify those feelings as having an external root than manifesting from his own insecurities.
TL;DR - Stress doesn't mean the same thing to Chris as it does to typical adults.
 
pickleniggo said:
I don't think Chris actually understands what "stress" means, much like how he doesn't understand "naive". He just understands them as having negative connotations and uses them as blanket terms as needed. Where "naive" is used as a descriptor for "stupid" or as a malicious insult, stress is used when Chris feels something negative toward himself, but can't figure it out. Where you or I would be stressed out because we have a lot of work that seems to pile up, or are losing sleep over relationship problems, or have to scrape up quick money we don't have in short amount of time should something unexpected happen, Chris would feel stress when he doesn't feel like drawing Sonichu, or has to explain why a totally fit and in-shape adult such as himself has man-titties, or when he spends all his money in one shot and has to wait for his next monthly tugboat. Likely Chris muddles feelings of depression, confusion, loneliness and lethargy into his understanding of "stress" because it's easier to justify those feelings as having an external root than manifesting from his own insecurities.
TL;DR - Stress doesn't mean the same thing to Chris as it does to typical adults.


exactly!!!

(you put it way more eloquently than i did)
 
Marvin said:
mendoza said:
In spite of his state of conscious denial, deep down he knows he doesn't live anything resembling normal life. Deep down he knows he is never going to get a heartsweet in his current state. There is an ever widening chasm between his life and that of a semi-normal man his age. Even the life of a typical basement dwelling man-child who at least bathes semi-regularly, doesn't live in squalor, doesn't crap their drawers and holds down an occasional part time job is still lightyears ahead of where he is. And his life is rapidly passing him by and many ships have sailed that are never coming back.

What hope does he really have? He may not acknowledge any of this publicly. Quite possibly not even in his conscious thoughts. But you can bet they are there deep down. He isn't that slow-in-the-mind.
Chris is a lot stupider than you actually realize. He doesn't know any of the truths about himself. He really seems to think he's thin, handsome and that the school board kept them from selling their house. And really, it's not like conspiracy theories are rare. Tons of people out there believe the USA didn't land on the moon, for example.

I might've said this before, but if I encountered Chris for the first time today, I wouldn't believe it either. I wouldn't believe that someone could be as stupid as Chris is. But Alec and I have read huge amounts of Chris' sperging over the years. The shit that he types, you couldn't imagine. Chris really is that stupid.

Can you share anything specific that we might not be aware of without compromising anything? Because I know he's a dumbass, but I always like to get fresh validation of that knowledge whenever possible.
 
Well, if he is the way he is because he's just plain dumb, there's nothing we can do to help him. As they say: you can't fix stupid.
 
JULAY said:
Marvin said:
mendoza said:
In spite of his state of conscious denial, deep down he knows he doesn't live anything resembling normal life. Deep down he knows he is never going to get a heartsweet in his current state. There is an ever widening chasm between his life and that of a semi-normal man his age. Even the life of a typical basement dwelling man-child who at least bathes semi-regularly, doesn't live in squalor, doesn't crap their drawers and holds down an occasional part time job is still lightyears ahead of where he is. And his life is rapidly passing him by and many ships have sailed that are never coming back.

What hope does he really have? He may not acknowledge any of this publicly. Quite possibly not even in his conscious thoughts. But you can bet they are there deep down. He isn't that slow-in-the-mind.
Chris is a lot stupider than you actually realize. He doesn't know any of the truths about himself. He really seems to think he's thin, handsome and that the school board kept them from selling their house. And really, it's not like conspiracy theories are rare. Tons of people out there believe the USA didn't land on the moon, for example.

I might've said this before, but if I encountered Chris for the first time today, I wouldn't believe it either. I wouldn't believe that someone could be as stupid as Chris is. But Alec and I have read huge amounts of Chris' sperging over the years. The shit that he types, you couldn't imagine. Chris really is that stupid.

Can you share anything specific that we might not be aware of without compromising anything? Because I know he's a dumbass, but I always like to get fresh validation of that knowledge whenever possible.
I can't really say much. One thing I can say is that, y'know his recent failosophy rant? Yeah, he whined similarly to a whole bunch of other people. Anyone who would listen (and a few who wouldn't).
 
I concur with Tubular Monkey's assessment... "Stress" just seems like the blanket word he uses to describe the general malaise of his life, which he and his family have largely imposed on themselves. I see nothing short of a miracle drug or bowling bowl to the skull changing this in Chris' life. He could be handed everything in his manifesto (a.k.a. Sonichu), and still be miserable. That makes me happy.

Yeah yeah "hi, a-log, hurp de hurr hurr," whatever.

I've found a lot of folks who live privileged lives, who are more miserable than those less fortunate than them. Over 2/3rds of my peers are on anti-depressants (I personally can't fathom how someone can be depressed while owning a luxury car - they're awesome). It seems to be some psychological element common to a fair number of people, and not unique to the genetic skidmark that is the Weston family. Chris and Barb's misery is just more prominent, and more hilarious in the case of Chris.
 
CatParty said:
pickleniggo said:
I don't think Chris actually understands what "stress" means, much like how he doesn't understand "naive". He just understands them as having negative connotations and uses them as blanket terms as needed. Where "naive" is used as a descriptor for "stupid" or as a malicious insult, stress is used when Chris feels something negative toward himself, but can't figure it out. Where you or I would be stressed out because we have a lot of work that seems to pile up, or are losing sleep over relationship problems, or have to scrape up quick money we don't have in short amount of time should something unexpected happen, Chris would feel stress when he doesn't feel like drawing Sonichu, or has to explain why a totally fit and in-shape adult such as himself has man-titties, or when he spends all his money in one shot and has to wait for his next monthly tugboat. Likely Chris muddles feelings of depression, confusion, loneliness and lethargy into his understanding of "stress" because it's easier to justify those feelings as having an external root than manifesting from his own insecurities.
TL;DR - Stress doesn't mean the same thing to Chris as it does to typical adults.


exactly!!!

(you put it way more eloquently than i did)

It's not the only example of Chris using a catch-all term either.

To Chris, the word "troll" basically means somebody who does something he doesn't like.Troll just means "baddie" and it fit's right in with his child like view of the world.
This can range from somebody winding him up online, to somebody like Snyder doing what's best for his business, or even just a Policeman doing his job. You know how in cartoons and games the bog standard enemies are really just a faceless mass of cardboard cut-outs? Well that's us, cops, security guards, random people in McDonalds etc. He kind of demonstrated this in the Sonichu where they storm the 4_cent garbage tower. All the trolls were just blank stick like characters. (that and the fact he couldn't be bothered drawing them properly"

Then there's the baddies he can put names and faces to. Mary lee walsh, Snyder, Alec Benson Leary, Clyde cash etc. These guys are essentially "boss characters"
 
I believe that Chris has been genuinely stressed for most of his adult life. The problem is that he has a pathetically low stress threshold.
 
GFYS said:
I've found a lot of folks who live privileged lives, who are more miserable than those less fortunate than them. Over 2/3rds of my peers are on anti-depressants (I personally can't fathom how someone can be depressed while owning a luxury car - they're awesome). It seems to be some psychological element common to a fair number of people, and not unique to the genetic skidmark that is the Weston family. Chris and Barb's misery is just more prominent, and more hilarious in the case of Chris.

I work in an area where the median income is $200,000 (where I live is funny like that - a twenty minute drive will allow you to view both dilapidated homes and million+ dollar houses in the span of 15 miles) I deal with lots of business owners, lawyers, and generally wealthy people and let me tell you - they are some of the most miserable, entitled human beings on earth. No joke - a woman once compared her three thousand dollar shoes to a baby and when I didn't act impressed told me that she guesses that I "don't know what it's like to own something so valuable". And that's the irony of it all. If you have to put so much emphasis on things you own that you get pissed when you aren't envied for it, you actually aren't living a life. You're just an ugly bint with gaudy shoes. And owning expensive cars, homes with tennis courts, the ability to vacation at exclusive resorts...it means absolutely nothing if you can't even enjoy them. And that attitude gets passed onto their kids, so on and so forth. Wealthy people are wound up so much about their status that they make themselves stressed keeping up with their expenditures. It leaves them no room to relax and improve upon themselves, and since they only live for themselves, when they have a problem then it's obviously someone else's fault.
Chris and Barb's misery isn't so far off from this concept - they're just willfully ignorant to the fact that they're poor white trash. Particularly in Chris' case. His life upgrades have not actually improved anything about his life. He can buy a souped-up PS3, Vita and 3DS, but at the end of the day he's just an overweight sperg with vidya.
 
pickleniggo said:
He can buy a souped-up PS3, Vita and 3DS, but at the end of the day he's just an overweight sperg with vidya.

An overweight sperg with vidya who poops himself.
 
pickleniggo said:
GFYS said:
I've found a lot of folks who live privileged lives, who are more miserable than those less fortunate than them. Over 2/3rds of my peers are on anti-depressants (I personally can't fathom how someone can be depressed while owning a luxury car - they're awesome). It seems to be some psychological element common to a fair number of people, and not unique to the genetic skidmark that is the Weston family. Chris and Barb's misery is just more prominent, and more hilarious in the case of Chris.

I work in an area where the median income is $200,000 (where I live is funny like that - a twenty minute drive will allow you to view both dilapidated homes and million+ dollar houses in the span of 15 miles) I deal with lots of business owners, lawyers, and generally wealthy people and let me tell you - they are some of the most miserable, entitled human beings on earth. No joke - a woman once compared her three thousand dollar shoes to a baby and when I didn't act impressed told me that she guesses that I "don't know what it's like to own something so valuable". And that's the irony of it all. If you have to put so much emphasis on things you own that you get pissed when you aren't envied for it, you actually aren't living a life. You're just an ugly bint with gaudy shoes. And owning expensive cars, homes with tennis courts, the ability to vacation at exclusive resorts...it means absolutely nothing if you can't even enjoy them. And that attitude gets passed onto their kids, so on and so forth. Wealthy people are wound up so much about their status that they make themselves stressed keeping up with their expenditures. It leaves them no room to relax and improve upon themselves, and since they only live for themselves, when they have a problem then it's obviously someone else's fault.
Chris and Barb's misery isn't so far off from this concept - they're just willfully ignorant to the fact that they're poor white trash. Particularly in Chris' case. His life upgrades have not actually improved anything about his life. He can buy a souped-up PS3, Vita and 3DS, but at the end of the day he's just an overweight sperg with vidya.

In my personal experience, people with money or people brought up in a family with money are far more possessive and clutching than those without. Years ago a friend and myself used to visit a couple of girls who shared a flat in a nearby city. Now they were both genuinely nice people, but because they both had well off parents it seems as though they'd never had to compromise on anything, ever.
Everything in the flat was divided between them, cupboards, shelves in the fridge etc. They each bought their own bread, milk, suger etc so there was always twice as much stuff in the flat than was really necessary. They would bicker and fight every time one stepped on the others toes in some way.

It's not like they were a couple of unknowns thrown together into student accommodation, they were friends who had known one another for years and the flat was a private let. They simply found it impossible to share because they'd never had to before.

Me and my friend both came from comparatively poor upbringings, so we were the complete opposite. We'd buy loads of stuff for the weekend and just say "help yourselves" to everyone.

(edit) Also with Chris, apart from his brief stint at Wendy's, he's never had to earn a penny in his life. He has absolutely zero comprehension of the value of money, it's just something that's given to him because he's special. In reality he's essentially a child with an extremely generous allowance, so he may as well be from a rich family for all the difference it would make.
 
One thing that "high functioning autistics" and people with Aspergers do is justify things to themselves, missing the big picture. I'll argue that Chris doesn't think he is a failure or in denial. In his mind he's a success because he was on honor roll in high school and went to college and graduated with a degree in computer aided drafting and design. Even as a 31 year old, if you were to ask him about his accomplishments he would proudly spout those out for sure.

I'm Chris's age and he reminds me of a 12 or 13 year old in the mid-90s. If you think back to when you were that age, you stressed about things that aren't really what the general populous would consider stress. When you talk about Chris's "stress" you have to keep in mind his mental-age.
 
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