Study shows gun control would prevent mass shootings

[CatParty]

http://www.attn.com/stories/2893/america-mass-shooting-problem

Given the fact that the United States has over 200 million more firearms in circulation than any other country, it's not surprising that our public mass shooters would be more likely to arm themselves with multiple weapons than foreign offenders

If people want to reduce the number of mass shootings in the U.S., a good first step would be reducing the number of guns in circulation.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

well aren't the victims of mass shootings a small price to pay for continued freedom (despite the constitution mandating gun control)

 

[Joan Nyan]

America is a country of laws, not men. The laws that we can have guns is more important than the lives we lose because of them

 

[TheAmazingAxolotl]

If we would only mass-shoot all the autistics there would be no more mass shootings after that.

Big point here. The majority of mass shootings are caused by people with debilitating mental illnesses, like autism, so if we cull the population of autists we will have no more mass shootings. It's such a perfect plan!

 

[KFC Double Down]

I'd sooner go for more comprehensive mental health assistance than I would gun control, 'specially since the guy makes mention of personality and mental disorders (and some measure of entitlement, though I don't think I'd attribute it to the idea of the American Dream) being significant contributing factors to the shooters.

Ideally though I'm interested in reading through this report and seeing if anything's being fudged or if the data's actually saying "it's da gunz", what with the politics surrounding gun control.

 

[Null]

Study shows defunding NASA would reduce space-related loss of life.

 

[ivyleaf]

It's difficult to get hold of a gun in England, and we haven't had any school shootings since Dunblane, I think?

I also wonder why it's so easy for mentally ill/autistic people to get hold of guns in the US.

I'd also like to rant about police incompetence, particularly with regards to the Columbine shooting. The police were informed well in advance that Eric Harris was detonating home-made explosives in the neighborhood, and they were handed printouts of his website. It's been proven that a search warrant was issued but for some reason it wasn't put into use. I also think it's disgusting that a bunch of cops laid outside the school shitting their pants for hours instead of storming the school.

 

[tomgirl4life]

I made a facebook post suggesting that maybe we make it a little more difficult for crazy people to purchase guns (Jared Loughner, James Holmes, Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, and that black dude all had guns purchased legally) and my family went nuts saying I was trying to take everyone's guns away.

So it would probably be easier for me family wise if we just shot the autistics. I'm totally on board for that.

 

[Yog-Sothoth]

Spoiler

 

[LikeicareKF]

if someone wants to perform a shooting they will get their hands on a gun no matter if 'gun control' is in place and the government knows it

mass shootings are an excuse for the government to slowly take away more of the publics rights while the people who are the real threats are unaffected

 

[AP 297]

Ya, all the baitbosting and bait threading has created this. Nothing but 1 liners and short paragraphs of bait posting on a serious topic. Really killing all autistic people and even suggesting it is autistic.

I think more than gun control is needed. The US has over 300,000,000 million guns in circulation. That is a gun for every man, woman, and child just about. We have laws that are supposed control gun sales, but they are not implemented and we have special interests that severely reduce how effective these laws are with created loopholes or by hamstringing the people meant to enforce them. More guns means more of a chance of these weapons falling into the hands of those who would intentionally kill others. It is basic economics, more supply means more availability and in some cases less cost for would be killers.

I am still a realist and understand that we have a powerful political lobby that wants guns everywhere all the time. So there is another option, Reinstitutionalization.

It is not popular and it is not pretty, but the US's experiment with Deinstitutionalization has been an utter and abject failure. Since it was first implemented, crime and homelessness skyrocketed. There are people in this world that no one will ever care for and who are an obvious threat to themselves or others. These people have a very twisted sense of reality and have no business being out on their own. There are a significant number of people in the US who need to be placed back under protective custody of the state. They are often more than 1/3 of the homeless in US cities and 40% of the occupants of the US prison system. Personal Freedom means nothing if it allows a person to become a constant threat and a blight to others. I would argue that such freedom is excessive selfishness to a degree that is despicable.

There is a clear common thread in US mass shooters and attackers. A large portion of them should have been locked up in institutions and would have been 60 years ago.

if someone wants to perform a shooting they will get their hands on a gun no matter if 'gun control' is in place and the government knows it

mass shootings are an excuse for the government to slowly take away more of the publics rights while the people who are the real threats are unaffected

Since gun control has been implemented in Australia, there have been almost no mass shootings, correct?

 

[LikeicareKF]

Since gun control has been implemented in Australia, there have been almost no mass shootings correct?

we have only ever had 2 mass shootings that i know of

the second one, which is the one that resulted in our gun laws, is widely accepted by anyone with some form of intelligence as performed by the government for that purpose

im not a paranoid person, i believe what i can see for myself

as it is, in Melbourne it is incredibly easy to get your hands on illegal firearms

 

[AP 297]

we have only ever had 2 mass shootings that i know of

the second one, which is the one that resulted in our gun laws, is widely accepted by anyone with some form of intelligence as performed by the government for that purpose

im not a paranoid person, i believe what i can see for myself

as it is, in Melbourne it is incredibly easy to get your hands on illegal firearms

Australia had 13 mass shootings between 1979 and when gun control was implemented in 1996. There have been no incidents since. That is over 19 years without a single mass shooting.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/

 

[LikeicareKF]

Australia had 13 mass shootings between 1979 and when gun control was implemented in 1996. There have been no incidents since. That is over 19 years without a single mass shooting.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/06/australia-hasnt-had-a-mass-shooting-since-1996/

what do they classify as a mass shooting though?

 

[AP 297]

what do they classify as a mass shooting though?

Really, you are going to ask for a definition? As far as I know there is no official definition except lots of people killed in a setting at a single isolated moment.

Your odds of defending yourself in a setting like that when everyone is panicking is negligible. Besides if you are going to imply this is a conspiracy by the government to restrict who owns guns, I could be just as silly and imply that mass shootings are a conspiracy by gun manufacturers to make sure everyone buys their products out of fear. I mean the US has more mass shooting incidents than anyone else and many killers have had to purchase extended clips from the US in foreign countries to conduct their mass shootings.

Are you a representative of the Gun Manufacturers?

 

[LikeicareKF]

Really, you are going to ask for a definition? As far as I know there is no official definition except lots of people killed in a setting at a single isolated moment.

their definition of a mass shooting could be simply 'more than one'

you can't just throw statistics around without being sure of them

especially from gizmodo, next are you going to link to gawker?

 

[KatsuKitty]

I'm sure it would.

Let me ask you this: A guy breaks into your house, but you don't have a gun.

How are you going to shoot him?

 

[Null]

I'm sure it would.

Let me ask you this: A guy breaks into your house, but you don't have a gun.

How are you going to shoot him?

You don't. You just get murdered and your family gets raped.

 

[AP 297]

I'm sure it would.

Let me ask you this: A guy breaks into your house, but you don't have a gun.

How are you going to shoot him?

You don't. You just get murdered and your family gets raped.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...076_1_samurai-sword-samurai-weapon-pontolillo

Also bars and a security system work as well. I live in a building with security so these crazy scenarios mean nothing to me.

their definition of a mass shooting could be simply 'more than one'

you can't just throw statistics around without being sure of them

especially from gizmodo, next are you going to link to gawker?

There have been serial killings in Australia, but it is very hard to enter a crowded school or theater and slaughter people with just a knife or non-automatic pistol.

>tfw get murdered and not raped

It is sad isn't it.


So are we going to let this forum be for deep thoughts or are we going to let it just be renamed to BaitPosts, instead.

 

[LikeicareKF]

we going to let it just be renamed to BaitPosts, instead.

im down with that