Disaster 'Sued by my abuser for millions, I set up a social network instead' - 'I should be allowed to accuse anyone of anything without consequence' - some whore. Featuring another de-moidified zone!


Olivia DeRamus was 19 and studying at university in California when she was sexually assaulted. The situation was made worse when she found she couldn't speak out about it.
"I was sexually assaulted. And my story doesn't end there," says Olivia.
After reporting the incident, the university launched an investigation and took action against the alleged perpetrator.
Olivia chose not to go to the police to avoid more trauma. But she still found she was caught up in a legal battle that lasted for years.
"I was actually sued by the perpetrator of my assault, for defamation."
In the United States if someone sues you, even if you win, you still have to pay your own fees - the financial pressure of this, she believes, was used to try to get her to retract her story as he denied the assault.
And as is often the case, she found that while legal proceedings continued, she was not able to speak about her experience in case her comments were used against her in court.
Olivia felt she desperately needed a safe space to discuss what was happening but couldn't find one. So as the process came to a close she went about setting up a new social network to give people in challenging circumstances a place where they can be heard.


She founded Communia, which she says is a first-of-its-kind social network addressing "social health" - the aspect of your well-being that stems from your relationships with others. It features such as journaling, mood tracking, community support and other resources.
"You can connect with yourself as much as you connect with others," she says.
The app, aimed at women and non-binary people, also has a more "Twitter-style" feed that can be used anonymously, whether for legal reasons or simply to retain privacy.
Olivia had suffered a physical assault, but victims of online abuse - according to the charity Refuge this includes more than one in three women in the UK - have also welcomed Communia as a safe place to express themselves.
One of those is Suswati Basu, a podcaster and former journalist. Suswati says her online feeds were "flooded" with homophobic, racist and sexist comments after she responded to a post on X, formerly Twitter, about the treatment of asylum seekers.

Suswati says other platforms make her "vulnerable".
To tackle problems like this, Communia has human moderators. They also verify all members by email and if they want to talk about certain subjects like sex or the #MeToo movement, users have to be verified using photo identification - a much more hands-on strategy than at other social media platforms.
"When I told people in the industry, they thought I was out of my mind," says Olivia. But she insists it can be done, even at scale.
And for Communia users, these safety features are a big part of the draw.
Lucy, not her real name, was trying to recover from an eating disorder. She befriended someone she thought was another girl suffering with anorexia on the social media site, Tumblr.
But then her "friend" started asking for photographs and sending messages that made her feel more and more uncomfortable.
It turned out she had been conversing with a man, who proceeded to send "several half-nude photographs".

"I felt really violated by it," says Lucy. "It just didn't feel safe."
Tumblr declined to comment.
Her experience on other platforms wasn't much better. "No matter where you go, if you admit you're a woman, it's like the environment just becomes sexualised automatically," she says. So she welcomes the "positive space" that Communia offers for women.
Men are allowed on the app, but they are not encouraged. Olivia says that when men do use the platform "nine times out of 10 it's for the wrong reasons" and they are removed.
Another way Communia stands apart from other platforms is that it doesn't rely on advertising. It has been downloaded more than 100,000 times, with the majority of users in the UK and the US.
Currently the basic app is free, with the option to pay for additional features and Olivia hopes to scale the business and make it profitable without advertising.
"You can add value, add additional revenue streams, in a responsible way that actually supports people and gives them what they need, versus extracting their privacy and their data," she argues.

Brooke Erin Duffy, an associate professor in communication at Cornell University, says that may prove a challenge.
"While the platform's efforts to evade data-collection and ad-targeting measures are laudable, they may prove difficult to sustain. Without advertising support, the platform will have to maintain a loyal base of paid subscribers," she says.
A key challenge will be how to scale up without "losing the sense of community that drew users in the first place" she predicts.
And for Olivia, the community means everything, given the experience she has been through.
For lots of people battling a court case isn't an option financially, so Olivia says the fact she was able to and can now talk about her experience is a privilege.
"If I can support other women in whatever it is that they're going through, then that's enough justice for me."
If you have been affected by the topics discussed in this article you can seek help and support by visiting the BBC's Action Line.
 
Ok... Let me get this strait. She alleges she was sexually assaulted, she then chose NOT to report it to law enforcement but, only to her college which sounds like concluded that there was NO sexual assault. When all that failed she went to social media and put the guy on blast who then sued her for defamation and calling him a rapist and she thought she needed a platform where this couldn't take place? Where she could never be sued for calling someone a rapist without evidence? Her concept sounds exactly like a copy of twitter where people can anonymously accuse people of horrible crimes and not have to answer for it if it happens they are just lying about the accusation. Now someone correct me if I'm wrong here but, this woman couldn't get the police to charge her alleged rapist so she wanted to setup a place online to anonymously accuse people of rape? Because that sounds an awful lot like what is happening here.
The other woman complaining about people calling her a dumb cunt on social media felt her political opinion was so valid everyone who disagreed with her was labeled homophobic, racist and sexist? Maybe you are a fucking idiot and your political opinions are that of a fucking idiot, did you ever consider that? You want to go on Twitter, you want to voice your dumb take on illegal immigrants ruining a country but, when people don't like what you have to say, you feel they shouldn't be allowed to express that opposing opinion? Maybe just stay off Twitter and get a real job?

Am I imagining this shit or are these two dumb cunts simply seeking a forum where they are not allowed to be questioned if what they're saying is not actually true?
 
The law suit appears to have been filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court under the name John Doe v. Jane Roe 1 and Jane Roe 2. This woman was identified as Jane Roe 2 in the summons - see here: https://trellis.law/doc/175635323/proof-service-summons

I can't really research more without spending money.
Thanks. Using the lawyers for both I think this is the case files where it refers to the case outcome as unknown deposition.


On this page it shows the status as voluntary dismissal which matches up on another link too



So looks like the involved college is Pomona College. Found a whole lot of stuff relating to it around this stuff but this looks most interesting.


While it's at a similar time that case was found in the accused student's favour. Similar years though so we know the university was siding with the accusers at the time and lost a legal conflict over it.
 
Now someone correct me if I'm wrong here but, this woman couldn't get the police to charge her alleged rapist so she wanted to setup a place online to anonymously accuse people of rape? Because that sounds an awful lot like what is happening here.
It's not that she couldn't get the police to do anything. She said she didn't want to go to police.

Which is fucking stupid. It's always better to go to the police. It lends the victim a LOT of credibility in most people's eyes. I know it's hard. But you can't say you won't go to police because of trauma, and then turn around make public accusations (as if that wouldn't also be traumatic?) . That math aint mathin'
 
She alleges she was sexually assaulted, she then chose NOT to report it to law enforcement but, only to her college which sounds like concluded that there was NO sexual assault.
Not going to the cops makes me immediately question any accusation.

The pathetically miniscule ability of a college to conduct a proper thorough investigation aside, i can't imagine being content with the perp just getting expelled, which is the most severe punishment any school can possibly administer.

With all the articles about how sexual assault is the worst thing that can happen to a woman, something that fucks you up and sends you to therapy for years or even life, you'd imagine any victim would want the perp to get the book thrown at him, not get a slap on the wrist so he can just enroll in another college and keep on trucking.
 
It's not that she couldn't get the police to do anything. She said she didn't want to go to police.

Which is fucking stupid. It's always better to go to the police. It lends the victim a LOT of credibility in most people's eyes. I know it's hard. But you can't say you won't go to police because of trauma, and then turn around make public accusations (as if that wouldn't also be traumatic?) . That math aint mathin'
The excuse always given is that the police are insensitive to the victim's feelings or may think they did something to provoke victimization. Trouble here is that almost nothing happens on pure coincidence. They can't care because it's their job and they don't know if you're even telling the truth. And they think you might have done something because people who are victimized like that typically knew their victimizers: a stalker, a friend you told about or saw where you kept your money, the neighbor who has been complaining about whatever the hell you do that might extend beyond the boundaries of your house, or a family member.

Not wanting to go to the police because your house was broken into and tossed up a bit is understandable because what the fuck are they going to do? Your house is still fucked up. Same as if you think something was stolen, but you can't for the life of you think of anyone who took it. You were raped and you knew who did it? Why the fuck wouldn't you go to the police? If they did it, they're likely do it again: repeat offenders exist. DNA evidence is all but a guarantee since people who rape in the first place aren't the type to use condoms. You feel humiliated and violated? How is not doing anything about it going to help? When you finally get your proverbial shit together, the opportunity to put him away is already gone, and you have no one else to blame but yourself.
 
Based me not even clicking the article

You know, I really hope nobody puts out the word to download the app, give it 0/5 rating and a sentence or two that it was created by a woman who falsely accused a man of rape and then uninstalling it, because you know that would totally not be inline with her goals of creating a forum where women could never be criticized for her statements.

Women demand agency respect and credibility, and then they go and pull shit like this.


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If you look at the ratings in app 1/4 of the reviews are men who were not welcome on the app.
 
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After reporting the incident, the university launched an investigation and took action against the alleged perpetrator.
Olivia chose not to go to the police to avoid more trauma. But she still found she was caught up in a legal battle that lasted for years.
So it didn't happen. If you can go to the university, you can go to the cops. You not going to the cops is just confirmation you weren't abused and you know it was abuse.

Even stranger there's no details about the actual outcome of the trial. I assume she won but none of the articles say so.
You would know if she had won. That would be the line right after telling you she had been sued. My assumption is she lost/had to settle out of court.
 
Aside from the obvious suspiciousness of not pursuing an assault legally, it's incredibly selfish. Assume the guy did do it. What makes you think it's the first time or the last time? Maybe other people will be victimized, and you could have stopped it, but you didn't.
Not reporting this shit is literally perpetrating abuse by these peoples' own logic, (and frankly mine if I'm being honest), even in their framework they're failing.
If the guy who did the assaulting was black or identified as non-white, I understand why she didn't pursue it.
 
So, she'll go to the title IX kangaroo court but giving a police statement would just be too much because...reasons. I assume those reasons are because she would be asked questions. Then when sued for defamation creates her own social media platform to avoid pissing off the court while still being able to publically defame the guy.
 
You would know if she had won. That would be the line right after telling you she had been sued. My assumption is she lost/had to settle out of court.
Can't access the documents linked but the summary suggests it was withdrawn. Which makes me think that he ran out of money to keep the case going, especially since she's also found the money to launch this app twice under different names and still pay for articles like this advertising it,
 
There are a lot of people to blame for this new strategy. The abusers and their aggressive attorneys, first and foremost; the justice system, which lets them do it; but also, the universities. Before I came forward, the university promised me that they wouldn’t tolerate retaliation. In fact, in the U.S., universities are supposed to be required to protect women who have been assaulted under “Title IX,” the federal law that regulates how universities handle gender discrimination and sexual assault. But when I was sued, the university was unwilling to consider this lawsuit as retaliation. It felt they washed their hands of it and left me unprotected.

So basically she thinks defendants and accused having attorneys is a problem, or at least attorneys that actually defend. (an angle of attack we've been seeing the groundwork for in law schools and from progressive elites. attorneys WILL pay the price for representing the wrong people and type of cases etc) She also wants government and the courts to limit the rights of people (men) whenever a feminist talking point demands it. (remembering that these are also the people who would very much like to change criminal law to get rid of rights and protections in certain types of cases) How are you going to justify either of those without a criminal conviction or even attempt? Not only that but she also wants schools to punish the accused for fighting back outside of school. What could they even have done to "protect" her other than further punish the male student?

This is typical "everyone's fault but me" behavior.

The scary thing is that I could see her argument getting places in places other than the US.
 
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So basically she thinks defendants and accused having attorneys is a problem, or at least attorneys that actually defend. (an angle of attack we've been seeing the groundwork for in law schools and from progressive elites. attorneys WILL pay the price for representing the wrong people and type of cases etc) She also want government and the courts to limit the rights of people (men) whenever a feminist talking point demands it. (remembering that these are also the people who would very much like to change criminal law to get rid of rights and protections in certain types of cases) How are you going to justify either of those without a criminal conviction or even attempt? Not only that but she also wants schools to punish the accused for fighting back outside of school. What could they even have done to "protect" her other than further punish the male student?

This is typical "everyone's fault but me" behavior.

The scary thing is that I could see her argument getting places in places other than the US.
despite being equal to men, women frequently advocate for laws that benefit solely women and impede on the rights of men, protections for only women, and see any criticism of this behavior as you despising them
 
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