Suggestion: Implement crypto mining in KiwiFlare to fund the site

[Faceless Whore]

I have a brilliantly retarded idea:

1. As I understand it KiwiFlare retards DDoSing by forcing clients to perform work challenges.
2. Troons routinely devote their entire Bidenbux check to DDoSing the Farms.

I don't know if it could be implemented, but why not convert the KiwiFlare work to proper crypto coin mining? I doubt it would entirely cover server costs but something is always helpful.

We could literally power the Farms with the awesome amount of troon cope and dilation directed at us.

ETA: For any tech illiterates triggered by the words "crypto mining":

1. KiwiFlare would work the same way it does right now, you wouldn't notice any difference.
2. This idea is different than what Null tried to do years ago.
3. If you're not a programmer and you don't understand how any of this works kindly refrain from shitting up this thread with Facebook grandma FUD takes.

ETA: Coins might require a lot of CPU power, but if the work can be broken down into smaller chunks that could be delegated to KiwiFlare connection attempts it would work. I've seen mining code that supports multithreading, so at least some coins can have their work split. If the work of an individual thread isn't that much, then rework it so 1 thread = 1 KiwiFlare connection attempt.

This would likely be a coding project that would take time and effort to implement, but perhaps it would earn coin and move the 41% needle enough to be worthwhile.

 

[Bull Kike]

Yeah because it went so well the last time that was tried lmao.

 

[Faceless Whore]

Yeah because it went so well the last time that was tried lmao.

It was done before? I wasn't aware of that. When and what happened?

 

[A Cardboard Box]

It was done before? I wasn't aware of that. When and what happened?

There was an opt in crypto miner plugin for the site, and doing that, even with the consent of the users, gets people to dislike you very quickly.

 

[Snorky]

Not everyone in the world has a computer capable of being able to mine cryptocurrency (especially ones that have been around for years) and those who do probably wouldn't appreciate having their computer's resources get heavily utilized every time a check needs to be done.

 

[Faceless Whore]

There was an opt in crypto miner plugin for the site, and doing that, even with the consent of the users, gets people to dislike you very quickly.

Not everyone in the world has a computer capable of being able to mine cryptocurrency (especially ones that have been around for years) and those who do probably wouldn't appreciate having their computer's resources get heavily utilized every time a check needs to be done.

I think you've misunderstood what I'm proposing.

KiwiFlare makes your computer do work in a similar fashion as crypto mining right now. Only difference is it's doing work for no reason except for its security purpose. That work KiwiFlare has your device do could be repurposed to also mine crypto.

Obviously it would have to be a coin that doesn't require a great amount of work so the average device could handle it. I don't know if any valuable coin of that sort exists, so that is a potential problem with the idea.
But it wouldn't otherwise be different than KiwiFlare is right now.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

I think you've misunderstood what I'm proposing.

KiwiFlare makes your computer do work in a similar fashion as crypto mining right now. Only difference is it's doing work for no reason except for its security purpose. That work KiwiFlare has your device do could be repurposed to also mine crypto.

Obviously it would have to be a coin that doesn't require a great amount of work so the average device could handle it. I don't know if any valuable coin of that sort exists, so that is a potential problem with the idea.
But it wouldn't otherwise be different than KiwiFlare is right now.

Nigger you don't understand, it's a non starter. Any kind of crypto mining plugin is not feasible. There are literally scholarly papers written about the failure of us doing it specifically. Also, your proposal is double retarded because you're saying "okay let's do a crypto miner plugin but it only mines for like three seconds whenever you first go to the website."

 

[seri0us]

Null tried that several years ago.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-mining-pit.34649/

 

[Faceless Whore]

Nigger you don't understand, it's a non starter. Any kind of crypto mining plugin is not feasible. There are literally scholarly papers written about the failure of us doing it specifically. Also, your proposal is double retarded because you're saying "okay let's do a crypto miner plugin but it only mines for like three seconds whenever you first go to the website."

Link me the paper.

I don't know why you say it's a non starter. I've seen crypto mining done in a variety of ways. It might require some technical customization but I don't see why it couldn't be done.

Null tried that several years ago.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-mining-pit.34649/

What I'm describing is something different.

I'm guessing those who have replied so far aren't programmers and don't understand what is it I'm describing. You've just heard the words "crypto mining" and recall what Null tried to do previously, which was different.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Link me the paper.

No, because I don't care if I convince you or not. Null has talked about it on MATI several times how occasionally he gets Google alerts for research papers in regards to the Farms using a miner plugin and eating shit on the whole deal.

I don't know why you say it's a non starter. I've seen crypto mining done in a variety of ways. It might require some technical customization but I don't see why it couldn't be done.

I'm guessing those who have replied so far aren't programmers and don't understand what is it I'm describing. You've just heard the words "crypto mining" and recall what Null tried to do previously, which was different.

No, I understand what you're getting at. Your idea is that, instead of using KiwiFlare's proof-of-work DDoS mitigation to merely prove that the requests coming in are legitimate, that the work be used for mining crypto. This is retarded and it won't work. The issue is not technical, the issue is not that anyone here cares, the issue is not the feasibility of the system at all. The issue is that as soon as anyone detects a mining plugin in any way, shape, or form, that every company on the planet will blackhole us, deindex us, or flag us as a malicious site, just like last time, except this time it would be far worse, because when we got fucked on it last time we had less than a quarter of the hosting issues we have now.

Again, I do not give a fuck if you agree or not, believe me or not, or if you're offended by me calling your idea retarded. I'm just providing you why it won't work, why it didn't work in the past, and why it won't be implemented in the future.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

force everyone to use crypto minors to access the farms
???
profit
null gets all the cheese in the world

 

[peachlover669]

force everyone to use crypto minors to access the farms
???
profit
null gets all the cheese in the world

i see this as a win

Educated Take: well actually you see crypto mining is bad () most people cant mine it let allone mine it with their browser () and i personalyll dont like the idea so it shouldnt be done () basically you suck gay frog penis () and null is going to steall all your cheees ()

 

[Londo]

That's one way to get most people to never log back in.

 

[Null]

cryptominers get firewalls to blacklist the site. no.

 

[Rudy Coleman]

YOU LEAVE MY BANDWITH ALONE YOU FAGGOTS

 

[I'm Retarded?]

you know I had to do it to em

 

[Mikoyan]

Link me the paper.

I don't know why you say it's a non starter. I've seen crypto mining done in a variety of ways. It might require some technical customization but I don't see why it couldn't be done.


What I'm describing is something different.

I'm guessing those who have replied so far aren't programmers and don't understand what is it I'm describing. You've just heard the words "crypto mining" and recall what Null tried to do previously, which was different.

To elaborate on what Josh said, hosting a cryptominer on your site is an express ticket to blocktown on most every firewall and security platform out there. It doesn't matter if it's opt in or what, the assumption is that if you're doing it you're scamming.

The closest I ever came to disliking this site was when having a tab open of it would make my laptop try to go into hover mode and I had to figure out why, even if I understood why it was being done.

 

[Faceless Whore]

The issue is that as soon as anyone detects a mining plugin in any way, shape, or form, that every company on the planet will blackhole us, deindex us, or flag us as a malicious site

You could've said that in your first reply. I wasn't around during Null's crypto experiment so I don't know how it ended. I figured it was because people found it annoying, I wasn't aware that it caused issues with hosting.

if you're offended

My suggestion really pissed you off for some reason. I'm fine with my idea being shot down, but I wanted real reasons why it wouldn't work, not uselessly vague "trust me bro" tardraging. If you're gonna bother disagreeing at least give rational objections. Don't know why you got so emotionally worked up over this.

No, because I don't care if I convince you or not.

Then why mention it at all? It's homosexual to bring up a reference to refute something without at least mentioning the title and you know it.

I profusely apologize for triggering you so badly and not having all-encompassing knowledge of what's happened in the past. I'll advise other Kiwis not to toss out ideas for the site unless they have the comprehensive knowledge to know with certainty it will work ahead of time, lest it cause sensitive Kiwis like yourself a life-endangering aneurysm.

TLDR lol calm down it was just an idea, no reason to get so worked up over people making suggestions

 

[Nitro!]

I get it. Instead of using KiwiFlare to do work for no purpose other than making bots do more work, make that work useful and mine a piece of a coin.

It's a funny idea, turn an attack into a source of revenue, but maybe a little shady for everyone else accessing the site normally. I wouldn't care but it could ruffle some feathers.