Suicide. Based or Cringe?

Socrates. Cato the Younger. Ronnie McNutt. What are your thoughts on suicide? Is it dumb? Is it selfish? Is it a sin? As someone who is considering suicide I'm curious what you guys think.
My thoughts on YOU uninstalling yourself? Go for it.
Seriously tho... Do it.

Only joking. But if you feel like you can't go on, aspirin is really cheap.

My opinion on ME nixing myself...? You're going to die anyway, why preempt that? Life is all you got, people made it through the concentration camps.But

but I can imagine that there is a generation of yoof who have fapped out their entire lifes dopamine within the first couple of decades... And it's understandable that they would rather Carradine themselves instead of live in a world that (quite rightly) doesn't give a fuck about them.

So, to sum up, swings and roundabouts, innit?
 
Some people are in such mental anguish that they cannot be saved. I pray for them but its just kinda how it is. It's especially bad because medication for depressed people tends to just make them feel nothing.

Now commiting suicide instead of being captured by an enemy military force or police is based af and you will be honored in heaven as a soldier of Allah.
 
Suicide is only based if you're Sky King. At least he gave others joy. Other than that, most suicides aren't pretty and it's best that you make the best of your mortal days (though if euthanasia cones around, you're free to delete yourself once the possible chance of dementia hits around).
 
My plan is to wait for my parents to die first. I doubt they'd care either way but I think I can wait another decade or so. Once they're dead there will be no one to be upset by my death. I have no friends or girlfriend or anything.
Do drugs (personal recommendation acid/mushrooms), get another job, smile at yourself in the mirror (even if it’s fake). If none of these work sell everything and Direct message me
 
A cult sounds like fun I like seeing others smile so it would have to be a fun cult where sad people come to be happy and escape technology while finding peace in themselves and life
Smile, though your heart is aching
Smile, even though it’s breaking
When there are clouds in the sky
you’ll get by...

He also liked young girls, a perk of cults, I hear.
 
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Smile, though your heart is aching
Smile, even though it’s breaking
When there are clouds in the sky
you’ll get by...

He also liked young girls, a perk of cults, I hear.
I meant it more like
“Fix your heart ache the best you can, smile knowing that people love you no matter if your broken, while you're alive live for yourself and your family”

All women above the age of 18 that are 6ft4in (193cm) or taller are my brides, why? I am 6ft (182cm)
 
I meant it more like
“Fix your heart ache the best you can, smile knowing that people love you no matter if your broken, while you're alive live for yourself and your family”

All women above the age of 18 that are 6ft4in (193cm) or taller are my brides, why? I am 6ft (182cm)
God luck trying to find taller chicks. There aren't that many of them, and they're usually looking for taller men.

You like wearing Cuban heels?
 
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Suicide as an act - and by extension the propensity for suicidal ideation - is a marker of novelty when compared to lower species in an evolutionary sense. IIRC, homo sapiens are the only species that actively commit suicide, as we comprehend our environment beyond simple sense-data (to eat, to sleep, to fuck, et cetera) but also add layers to our perception of the world (ideology, religion, language, culture, et cetera). In other words, we have consciousness, and we analyze the world and build on-top of it our perception of itself. These usually differ between people-groups.

With a distortion in between these layers and the experience of the individual, a sort-of inner rift opens up that can (but not necessarily) swallow the individual whole (suicide).

Suicide, in my opinion, is actually not a bad thing. I'm not an artist nor poet nor playwright, but suicide is a common motif in many artforms. These motifs inspire within us a sort of 'grand flame' that drives us to do heroic deeds; be it fight for our country, make scientific discoveries, or simply be better people.

In fact, I would go as far as to say that suicide is noble. Each death for the friends and families is a sobering experience. A return to perceiving the universe as cold and disconnected from man. And to the suicide victim, it is a chance to return to a state before you were born - non-existance. A return home from spring break - if you will.
 
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Suicide as an act - and by extension the propensity for suicidal ideation - is a marker of novelty when compared to lower species in an evolutionary sense. IIRC, homo sapiens are the only species that actively commit suicide, as we comprehend our environment beyond simple sense-data (to eat, to sleep, to fuck, et cetera) but also add layers to our perception of the world (ideology, religion, language, culture, et cetera). In other words, we have consciousness, and we analyze the world and build on-top of it our perception of itself. These usually differ between people-groups.

With a distortion in between these layers and the experience of the individual, a sort-of inner rift opens up that can (but not necessarily) swallow the individual whole (suicide).

Suicide, in my opinion, is actually not a bad thing. I'm not an artist nor poet nor playwright, but suicide is a common motif in many artforms. These motifs inspire within us a sort of 'grand flame' that drives us to do heroic deeds, be it fight for our country, make scientific discoveries, or simply be better people.

In fact, I would go as far as to say that suicide is noble. Each death for the friends and families is a sobering experience. A return to perceiving the universe as cold and disconnected from man. And to the suicide victim, it is a chance to return to a state before you were born - non-existance. A return home from spring break - if you will.
You don't happen to have read a lot of Graham Greene, by any chance?
 
You know what keeps me from an-heroing? Fuck if I know, man, I just didn't want to start this post with a quote. Apathy, maybe? Actually, I remember now. Sometimes, it's funny. Sometimes it's really fucking funny. This world is so goddamn bad that it's like living in a cartoon. I can appreciate that, just not all the time.

That said, I genuinely believe that this is the first era in all of human history in which it is 100% entirely justifiable to consider suicide. It's not a good thing to do, but the state of the world has never been more physically painful in its awfulness, and you'd be a complete fool to believe you're above it all. Don't give me some "but life is so good because muh candy crush muh iphone muh internet narcissism muh wiretapped bread and circus thisorthat". It's all meaningless. Only an idiot would think they can reach the end without at least giving suicide some serious thought. Alternatively, you don't know how bad things are, and real talk, god bless you for that. I wish I had your ignorance. I would give everything I have for it. Some days I want to claw my fucking eyes out and scream bloody murder into the void just by observing the world around me.

Step 1.
Accept that you cannot control the actions of other people.
Clearly, this is something you've never tried yourself. Controlling the actions of other people is how society works, and it's actually pretty easy. It's called coercion, and it's the power that allows the world to turn. Also, the "accept the things you cannot change" platitude is a cope espoused by hippies or other shittypes who think they're "enlightened".

That said, this IS your problem, OP. If you don't like the way that things are, hurting people is actually the only way to changing them. I do not recommend this, but it might make you feel better until the crippling sense of guilt takes over.

You can't think about suicide if you are too tired.
Absolutely un-fucking-true. I think about offing myself the most when I am tired, which is all the time. Taking on more responsibility probably works great for someone who doesn't already work themselves to near-death.

Put on some banjo music and try not to think about the evils of the world man.
Ah, yes. The good old "don't think about all the horrible shit that smacks you in the face no matter how hard you try to run away from it all" trick. Think about the impossibility of what you just said for a sec. Literally absolutely every single last bit of our lives are being fucked with by people we don't even have the luxury of punching in the face or killing, at least, directly. How could you not think about it? Stay on any line of thought for long enough, no matter how innocuous it may be, and eventually it'll go back to "oh, the man took that away from me, too".

I dunno about you, but I would feel worse about myself if I tried not to care.

If that's the case it's clear someone or thing fucked you in the head from an early age. The only way to fix that is to put the work in that means going to a shrink (the first one might not be right compatibility is everything when it comes to psychology) getting pills, making friends and an impact in the place and with the people around you. It's not easy dude but everyone's got their shit, but having others to share the load and living a meaningful live will always make it better.
Psychology and Psychiatry are not sciences, shrinks don't give a fuck about you, and nobody who wishes to exist as a being of free agency would ever subject themselves to a person who has the power to remove all of your rights, without even having to go through the state. They can have you imprisoned, they can take your guns away, they can keep you from ever living a normal life. There's no money in fixing you, but there's plenty of money in throwing you in a padded room for eternity.

I can't promise you any easy solutions, but talking about it can help relieve the burden.
Nobody wants to hear about other people's problems. They just want to throw out a platitude, like "it'll get better, just you wait you have so much to live for and life is a super cool adventure just try to be happy after all it's all down to your frame of mind uwu". Once you start actually delving into your issues, is around the same time your words become white noise to most people.

You're an irreplaceable human soul with your own unique understanding of what it means to suffer. The part that's a real bummer is the fact that nobody cares, and frankly, who could possibly blame them? Life is suffering, and every picosecond of corporeal existence sucks. Just deal with it. Or don't.
 
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Leave cash behind for people to pay for the clean up of your body, your possessions, your affairs, and the damage of the property or location you die in. Crime scene clean up videos will show you the aftermath of taking yourself out including the severe contamination of any place you choose to kill yourself on land. Many families have to pay for the damages the suicide creates materially.

One woman I know had to scrub parts of her son's exploded brain off the walls and floors of her home because she couldn't afford a clean up crew, and many others receive lifelong trauma from discovering dead bodies of strangers and loved ones.

You have a right to die but you should also plan for and be at peace with the fallout of ending your life on your terms.
 
Socrates. Cato the Younger. Ronnie McNutt. What are your thoughts on suicide? Is it dumb? Is it selfish? Is it a sin? As someone who is considering suicide I'm curious what you guys think.
Socrates had a sentence of death passed by a greater majority of the jury than that by which he had been convicted of "moral corruption of Athenian youth" and "impiety". He was commanded to kill himself by the city he loved.
Cato opened his guts like a seppuku rather than be used by Caesar.

There is honorable suicide and then there is cowardly suicide. Do not commit suicide out of cowardliness. Even the University and Airline Bomber didn't kill himself. Commit yourself to history before you leave this earth.
 
I hope he hasn't done it.

The vast majority of people convince themselves that they're doing everyone around them a favour by taking themselves out of the equation. But obviously if someone is seriously going to try and off themselves, they're not in their right mind, so it's hard for people who haven't gone that dark to wrap their head around.

I worked on the trains for a few years, and barely a week went by without at least one fatality, and that was just on 2 out of fuck knows how many lines. The ones you hear about are probably 0.5% of the total, and that's being really generous. And they all died. Not many people win an argument with a train.

If I ever get diagnosed with something terminal and drawn out, dead fucking right I'm going to have a massive dig of smack. Not sure if that counts as the same tho.
 
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