Supporting companies based on the beliefs of their owners. - The war on Chick-fil-A

lowkey said:
People like being part of tribes.

Tribalism is bad (supposedly) so all tribes are undermined in various ways.

Product-based tribes are good. For corporations.

On the one hand I find it virtuous that some people would eschew their preffered product for moral reasons, on the other hand people define their identity based on the products they purchase.

I wanted to say "some people", but if you think about it, everybody does. Clothes you buy end up defining how people perceive you and none of you are gandhi's, spinning their own clothes to spite the british overlords.

Though there is something sad about that reality of purchasing products to define yourself that I find difficult to articulate.
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And chances are those clothes are made in sweatshops run by guys who don't give a damn if little Ching Chong Tsu has had a glass of water or a bathroom break in the 14 hours since he's started sewing Nikes.

I admit I buy Nestle brand stuff like coffee and chocolate despite the company having a certain reputation with bottled water issues and that whole infant formula thing. But I'm not going to stop buying products because of those things. Not if I like them. Remember that the companies aren't made of just one evil guy smoking a cigar and laughing as he counts his money. There are thousands of workers who rely on these companies for jobs. Even the sweatshops are sadly necessary in some areas. It's just really tragic that the conditions are so bad all to save a buck.
 
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Dysnomia said:
And chances are those clothes are made in sweatshops run by guys who don't give a damn if little Ching Chong Tsu has had a glass of water or a bathroom break in the 14 hours since he's started sewing Nikes.

I admit I buy Nestle brand stuff like coffee and chocolate despite the company having a certain reputation with bottled water issues and that whole infant formula thing. But I'm not going to stop buying products because of those things. Not if I like them. Remember that the companies aren't made of just one evil guy smoking a cigar and laughing as he counts his money. There are thousands of workers who rely on these companies for jobs. Even the sweatshops are sadly necessary in some areas. It's just really tragic that the conditions are so bad all to save a buck.
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The sad truth is the people who work in those sweatshops, their lives would be even WORSE if you didn't buy products from the companies they make items for. If you stopped buying products make from sweatshops then those people would have no money and watch their families starve to death before they themselves starve to death.
 
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My family owns a small business and our rule has been to never get political. Don't talk about politics with customers, don't donate to causes that could be considered by anyone to be controversial (pro life/choice, pro/anti gun, etc.), no campaign signs on the property, etc., etc., etc. There is absolutely nothing good that can come from it and a whole lot of shit that could potentially hit the fan in today's climate.

We did run some commercials a few years ago on the local conservative radio station that talks local/state politics and syndicates Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc. I was hesitant, and sure enough a few weeks into it the city councilman who represents our neighborhood came in and asked us to pull the ads because one of the local hosts was talking shit about him on the air. We ended up caving and thankfully there was no noticeable blow back from either side. Haven't done something similar since.

If you're a huge corporation I don't think these boycotts mean shit in the long run, but if you're a mom and pop operation, saying the wrong thing at the wrong time is tantamount to suicide.
 
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It all depends. If they're out and out Nazis (I mean serious, actual Nazis), or owned by the KKK, no, I'm not going to buy their product. Other than that, most of the time I don't pay attention. I might be more likely to buy some things if I like their standards, but only if it's a product I really like anyways.

In this day and age, sometimes it's also really hard to boycott every single place that does something really horrid.
 
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ICametoLurk said:
Literally all companies want is your money. If they have any beliefs it's to get you to buy their shit because they cater to your fee fees.
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Not always. I know it's cliched to use Chick-Fil-A as an example, but I seriously believe the whole "Christian values" thing makes it to where you actually get good service, and not some jackass on welfare that would rather not work. That, and the fact they pay well. (The one near me pays $13/hour at start, which is good for fast food.)
 
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When I first started at my job, they presented themselves like Apple. Happy! Joyious! Everyone's your friend!

After a few months, I realize I work for an evil , data mining company that presents itself as a "a protector of people's privacy and security" - The data my company collects is actually illegal if the goverment demanded you hand it over, but they can ask for it -and then they can sell it to the goverment lmao. It's just expediting our transformation into China.

If you believe any company truly believes in people, you're a chump.

Like support this, support that

Our CEO presents himself an Ultra Liberal, Wannabe Steve Jobs, but in reality, he's pro military to the point that he believes they can do no wrong BUT Army Captains are lazy scum that don't deserve to get paid ( He's very specific about that lmao) and he looks like one of the Before pictures over on the Tranny threads. Oh and if you have any problems, feel free to voice them directly to him!

Never mind that the company is over 10 years old , has over 2000 employees and didn't have an HR department until some disabled dude got fired for being disabled.
 
Ideally companies would be mostly neutral, or at least not rampantly, overtly political. That's how they used to be, money first if not only.

Now they're pushing agendas, like brainwashing kids with gay cereal and anti-White cartoons. I hate the idea of supporting companies because they're not woke, but it must be done.
 
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In the early 2010s when boycotting Chik-fil-a was popular I bandwagoned because someone I cared about told me the company supported oppressing them. Half the decade later, that same person said they loved Chik-fil-a and would eat it without any mention of the boycott.

Also, seeing companies adjust their marketing and identity according to their target demographics (pride and BLM icons everywhere but conservative countries such as Russia, the Middle East,etc) was a learning experience.

Not to mention learning many companies promoting human/animal friendly alternatives (vegetarian or vegan options) still devastate foreign communities they source and export their alternatives from just to meet global and out-of-season demand.

I understand how exploitative and manipulative it all is, but rather than arguing online or with friends and family I focus on making my own items where possible and avoiding consuming egregiously, and look for legitimate local sources when I can. If I can't find what I want then I have to work with what's available and that's all I think anyone can do. Not quite ready to live a hermit lifestyle yet.
 
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Only possible to support or oppose companies owned by a family or a group of partners, i.e. non-public companies. I think Chick-a-Fil is one for example. Also potentially those that have founders that are in powerful positions like CEO. For example Twitter before Jack got fired.


Supporting or Opposing a public conglomerate is akin to support or opposing a complete sociopath. Or rather something *less* (rather than worse) than a complete sociopath, as those still have interests and things they like.


Those literally have corporate charters that are changed as the situation calls for it.
You can force a company to "care" because you care about something. But you should never care about that company because it cares for it. If that makes sense.




All that said, I still think it makes sense "voting" with your money so to speak. It might force others in on or an other direction.
 
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