Surviving R. Kelly

Didn't Aaliyah do "Age Ain't Nothin' But A Number" when she was with R. Kelly?

McLin, Kelly’s music teacher, recalls that Kelly “was very aggressive in some of his sexual language.” Kelly went on to drop out of school his senior year; his music career soon took off. Surviving R. Kelly paints a picture of a serial predator whose power over and access to victims only increased as his fame grew. The series also takes pains to emphasize that Kelly targeted young black women—Kenwood high schoolers and kids who hung out at a Hyde Park McDonalds. The writer Mikki Kendall remembers seeing Kelly at the fast food chain. He would come alone and pick up high school girls. “People will say, well why didn’t anyone notice? The answer is that we all noticed. No one cared because we were black girls.”

Producer Craig Williams adds that he “heard that [Kelly] was picking up a lot of kids from the school.” He thought, “What the hell is he doing hanging around the high school?”
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I heard that R. Kelly used to pick up teenage girls in parking lots of schools and other places.
 
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Oscar Wildean said:
Didn't Aaliyah do "Age Ain't Nothin' But A Number" when she was with R. Kelly?


I heard that R. Kelly used to pick up teenage girls in parking lots of schools and other places.
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One victim said he picked her up right after his trial ended. But yeah, he hung around schools, malls, and a McDonald’s to look for girls. Anywhere you’d find teenagers basically.
Aaliyah’s mother said the information involving her daughter is all lies. It’s a smear on the reputation of a girl who everyone agrees is the victim, apparently. I just don’t believe Aaliyah’s parents were with every single moment. I hope she’s just in denial and isn’t trying to cover anything up. R. Kelly probably put that poor girl through way more than what was mentioned in the documentary.
 
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Age, based on time, a white invention, is just another tool the honkey uses to keep a brotherman down.

Also child molesters deserved to be murdered but not this one cuz he makes catchy music.
 
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Anyway, I remember it like it was yesterday: During one of my classes in high school, the topic of it came up, and ALL of the black girls in my class immediately came to R. Kelly's defense. They said horrid things about the girl in that tape (when all of us were around the same age as her at the time).
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Exact same thing happened after the photos of Rihanna having been beaten by Chris Brown came out. His fans came out in force on social media to call her a bitch who deserved it, defend him, etc.

Still, could be more of an obsessive tween girl thing rather than a race thing? Or maybe physical violence is more normalised in black homes? I read a Twitter thread recently of black people, men and women, lamenting the expected amounts of physical violence they experienced from their mothers, and how having an iron thrown at your head, or cleaning up your blood from an accident before getting any medical attention for it, was just expected and how things were done. And that when they tried to talk to their mothers about it they were just told they were being disrespectful and making it all up.

So there might be an already established culture of violence there, which when combined with that fangirl obsessiveness makes the abuse seem and acceptable side-effect of being with their idol.
 
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Exact same thing happened after the photos of Rihanna having been beaten by Chris Brown came out. His fans came out in force on social media to call her a bitch who deserved it, defend him, etc.

Still, could be more of an obsessive tween girl thing rather than a race thing? Or maybe physical violence is more normalised in black homes? I read a Twitter thread recently of black people, men and women, lamenting the expected amounts of physical violence they experienced from their mothers, and how having an iron thrown at your head, or cleaning up your blood from an accident before getting any medical attention for it, was just expected and how things were done. And that when they tried to talk to their mothers about it they were just told they were being disrespectful and making it all up.

So there might be an already established culture of violence there, which when combined with that fangirl obsessiveness makes the abuse seem and acceptable side-effect of being with their idol.
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Oh man, there's so much to talk about with this topic-- all of it uncomfortable, lol. I'll try to be brief as possible.

I don't think it's the "obsessive teen girl" thing so much as it is something to do with the culture and the black community, sadly. There are SO many grown black WOMEN who have come to the defense of R. Kelly and even the likes of Bill Cosby. Just to clarify: I am in no way saying that black people are inherently "programmed" towards violence and abuse ... But I do think that there's something within the culture to think about, and that's not just with the case of sexual abuse and violence against women, sadly. I think that economics play a factor as well.

I remember watching a documentary about Bill Cosby's victims. There was one story in particular that absolutely broke my heart: An actress who played a character in one of the Cosby Show episodes had been assaulted by Cosby ("allegedly"). She is a black woman, and she went through absolute turmoil about whether she should share her story or not because she literally went through decades of thinking, "Cosby is an icon among the black community, and has done SO much for us culturally. If I were to say anything, all of his good work would come undone, I would be known as the one who ruined Cosby, and more and more people will think horrible things about black people if the truth comes out." What a heartbreaking situation and mindset to be in. I seriously do pray she is more at peace these days now that she knows she isn't alone, and that there are more people everyday that believe and support her.

I think there's this unfortunate, ugly mix of "we want to see black people be successful no matter what kind of person they are" and the glamorization (or normalization) of "street life." For example, take a look at what 75% of black mothers go through these days: Completely abandoned by the fathers of their children ... Yet they're told that being a single mother is inherently a GOOD thing, so they're led to believe that the deadbeat dads are just a normal thing; no big deal (actually, it's a HUGE fucking deal).

So like I said in my first post, I think that race IS most definitely a topic to talk about when discussing this R. Kelly situation ... I just think it's very disingenuous for Lifetime to be all like "You white people only care about white victims." Um? Haven't a bunch of white women come out in light of the #MeToo movement saying that nobody has believed them either? To me, approaching things this way is basically a case of the snake eating itself (for lack of a much better term-- actual rape victims DO need to have their voices heard; I'm not calling them snakes). I think the situation is far more complicated than that.
 
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The thing that bothers me about “you only care about white people” is that basically the black community is being somewhat hypocritical. I’m glad everyone’s paying attention now but don’t forget that people either ignored or defended what was going on. You didn’t give a damn about these victims until recently yourselves.
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Too bad that if anything does come out of this the only thing he'll probably get is a slap on the wrist since he's richer than all of you.
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Nah, I think it’s going to be at least a little bit more than a slap on the wrist. R. Kelly’s going to dig himself deeper. He’s already done so with his “Surviving Lies” Facebook page or whatever it was called, that new song, and supposedly his manager making threatening calls to the families of his victims.
 
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It’s almost as if you play with fire you get burned.

I’m not trying to blame the victims but it’s your responsibility to not put yourself in a dangerous situation if you know a certain person is bad. Yeah he’s successful and has connections but Kelly isn’t a Weinstein. He can’t have that much control in Hollywood. And even if he did the parents are also to blame for putting these minors into dangerous situations.
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The thing Americans don't want to admit about rich celebrities is that they aren't normal people, they're part of an aristocratic class, so there's a 0.01% chance a pleb is going to meet one and become their friend or lover. A top level celebrity could be dating a model, heiress, body builder, or literal royalty. They could be friends with anybody else famous. If a celebrity shows interest in you and you aren't rich as fuck, you should really consider what their angle might be. There is a 99.9% chance it isn't to be your friend or find true love.
 
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I watched the entire documentary, and I’m shocked this took so fucking long to happen especially with such obvious evidence against him. Something should have happened when the news found out he was married to a teenage girl because he was scared he got her pregnant. There’s even stories of teenage girls deliberately choosing to go to Kenwood High on the South Side because they knew Kelly was creeping there.

The thing is, this guy has such a cult following that even if he straight up killed a guy there would be mostly black superfans literally sucking his dick and demanding he be freed because they’d rather deny the truth and focus on his music. There’s a sketch video online that shows a group of people literally jamming to Ignition after talking about how much of a sick fuck he was while someone else looked in total confusion and that describes the situation so perfectly: they’d rather focus on the idea of him that what he did.
 
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Everyone has known that R Kelly likes to hang around 'younger' girls for decades now.Dave Chappelle from what i understand when he heard Kelly got arrested for the infamous piss tape his reaction was not 'Wow this guy is a pedo' his reaction was 'Wow this guy likes to piss on underage girls'.The whole likes underage girls was more of a 'Yeah everyone knows that.' the pissing part was the trully screwed up part.Its been a running joke almost.Just like its pretty much a given most of Hollywood knew about Kevin Spacey and his escapades.
 
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Well, this could be the final nail in Mr. Kelly's career. Past collaborators like Lady Gaga, Chance the Rapper, and Phoenix have apologized for their collaborations with him. I think its too little too late. These people did their collabs only a few years ago and knew the score. Gaga did replace his collab with one from Xtina, but the OG version of Do What You Want is still on streaming. she said she's taking it off soon.
 
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