Sympathy for Chris

[Yawning Squirtle]

Yeah. But I believe that you can trace pretty much everything that went wrong back to Borb.

And you know what? I'm not even sure they're 100% to blame after all. Chris grew up in the late 90's, and started messing around with the internet in the early 00's. Younger moms and dads probably struggled to understand that, and Bob and Barb were ancient at the time. Same with autism. They could never really understand what their son had. Proof of this is how even Chris treats his autism like some kind of incurable flu or something, instead of a psychological condition.

Notice how he refers to autism sometimes; "I'd throw away the cure of autism, if I had it", "this curse of autism in my life" etc etc.

Yeah, I know we can bring up Cole's case to prove Barbara is a shitty parent, even to a non-autistic son. But Cole (even with all his flaws) manages to make a living and be a relatively normal guy. Just look at Chris!

I think the truth is, Chris never really had a chance.

(I hope I'm not white-knighting too much)

 

[Julaay]

No, I don't have any sympathy. I don't hate him either. I just basically saw his sagas and entertainment. Its kind of like a messed up comedy show.

Now, if he was actually trying to improve his life (like get a job, exercise, just do something constructive), and the trolls tried to keep him down, then yes I would have sympathy. At that point I would probably become one of those white knights. I believe everyone deserves a second chance and if he was honestly trying, then he would deserve not to be bothered by the trolls. Since the odds of that happen are practically zero, I just sit and enjoy the show.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

But he tends to stereotype men as BIG MEAN JERKS who takes all the pretty girls away from him.

Marvin will say that what Chris says and what he does don't match up, and he's correct. Chris is capable of actually being on friendly terms with dewds.

But before he gets to that point, Chris would have to be willing to talk to them in the first place. Since he's always telling himself he hates men and doesn't want to give them a chance, that has kind of a retardant effect on any hypothetical friendships he might've otherwise developed.

 

[Marvin]

But he tends to stereotype men as BIG MEAN JERKS who takes all the pretty girls away from him.

Marvin will say that what Chris says and what he does don't match up, and he's correct. Chris is capable of actually being on friendly terms with dewds.

But before he gets to that point, Chris would have to be willing to talk to them in the first place. Since he's always telling himself he hates men and doesn't want to give them a chance, that has kind of a retardant effect on any hypothetical friendships he might've otherwise developed.

If a dude walked up to Chris and started talking to him, I don't think Chris would react rudely for no reason. I don't think it's just that Chris is capable of being on friendly terms with guys, but he can have actual friendships with them just like he would with any other person. Well, he wouldn't be trying to molest them, like he would women, but you get what I'm trying to say.

Now, If there was a mixed group of people and Chris tried to pick someone from the group to be friends with, Chris would almost certainly try to pick a girl.

Now, these are moot points because Chris is too much of a pussy to approach anyone on his own anyway and no one, male or female, would look at Fatty and say "huh, I bet he'd be fun to talk to," outside of field agents.

 

[cypocryphy]

Borb is to blame for what he has become, but I still don't feel any sympathy for him. His ego and bigotry make it impossible.

He's a whiny 31 year old pre-schooler. He should have grown up long ago.

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

I would be a lot closer to having some kind of sympathy for him -- and bear in mind, I once worked at the DC headquarters of Special Olympics International, where the office staff included no small number of people with actual mental retardation -- if his actions hadn't had a directly negative effect on the lives of Megan and Wallflower. (Snyder also did a tremendously kind thing by not pressing felony charges, and to date his greatest acknowledgment for that has been the latest FB update about never wanting to go to his store again... which actually I guess is a huge favor, considering.)

None of his rationalizations about uploading SheCameForCwc make any goddamn sense, and the one about "but if I hadn't drawn me fingering you while standing with my back to you in an anatomically impossible way, I might actually have raped you" ranges from terrifying to just gross, depending on whether you think he would actually have done something forcible to Megan if alone with her. The fact is simply that he wanted to show "the world," or at least the ED staff and audience, that he wasn't touching his cartoon twin either -- he could too get his freak on with a real woman, so there! Megan's feelings meant nothing in the face of this urgent "need" to prove he could perform. (Of course, all of us normal-speed-in-da-minds realize that a drawing proves nothing, but this is Chris....)

There are also a number of ways and scenarios in which the line where he writes of "sharing DNA" with Wallflower could have been construed as defamatory, and if she'd had crazy-strict, abusive parents, the reference could have led to them beating her. (This assumes crazy-strict, etc. parents who were also insane enough to read the CWCipedia Mailbag, but stranger things have happened.) The "lip cells on the same drinking straw" cartoon was far likelier than anything involving his navy, but if you weren't a dedicated Christorian, how would you know that? I don't think he would have been saddened one bit if people assumed she'd become his new fapcup, but she was outraged merely to be thought of as his girlfriend in any sense, enough so to latch on to the "Tito" schtick in hopes of getting rid of Chris. His use of her real name and pen name crosses any number of lines, and changing her page to remove her actual name is possibly one of the nicest things the CWCki has ever done. (That I know of. I can find no PVCC sooper sekrit membership card in my wallet.)

 

[snowkitten91]

I've tried to in the past, but he just always finds a way to make me end up flushing it all down the drain by, well, being himself (his incredible ungratefulness towards Rocky and the rest of the church staff and members being the most recent offender).

 

[KatsuKitty]

I feel bad, more than anything, that Chris had to grow up under Barb's influence. When time finally claims her, I think Chris' life can only improve.

 

[GFYS]

I lack whatever mental component for sympathy, but I know enough to understand what social situations warrant it. For every lamentable aspects of Christian Weston Chandler's life story, there are many more examples of what a terrible person he is. Going by "My Name Is Earl" scoring, Chris is deep in negative karmic territory. Therefore, I'd offer him no sympathy. As well, there are far FAR more people whore are more worthy of sympathy, than Chris.

As for "fair..." Beyond the extent of the human construct of "civility," life ain't fair. Some organisms have to lose, for others to prosper.

 

[homerbeoulve]

The one thing he must do to get sympathy from people is to come clean and show that he's willing to change. But I doubt it.

 

[Dynamite Ninja]

Y'all should know me by now
I'm a victim of slanderous trolls
Been internet-famous for a long, long year
Gave many a man epic lulz

Was sent a dream by GodJesus
That I'd one day have an office job
And that I'd father a beautiful girl
Along with my electric hedgehogs

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling me
Is the nature of your game

I hung around the Fashion Square
Searching for a girl to make my own
Those damn, dirty trolls have made sure
That I'll forever be alone

I rode a van
Mowed down that lying Jew-man
In a fit of tard rage
And then my mom and I ran

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, mm-hmm
Uh, what's - uh what's puzzling me
Is what you're - is the nature of your game

Every jerkop is a criminal
And every male a jerk
Playing Kick the Autistic
And making my soul hurt

So if you meet me give me pity
Have some sympathy, don't give me no grief
Do not mislabel or cause me stress
Or I'll end up with DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS, um yeah

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, HMMMM!
But what's puzzling me
Is the nature of your game

Genius. absolute genius. you sir, are awesome. *applause*

 

[cheersensei]

There's been times that I've actually felt sorry for the guy, but quickly realize he's done most of it to himself. Bob and Barb obviously had no clue what to do with a special needs type of kid, so they just tried to raise him as if nothing were truly wrong. But as he got older, discovered the internet, and began a downward spiral, they just sort of gave up.

Sure, Bob tried to keep the reins tight, but for every time he pulled, Chris just pulled back harder. Barb just stress sighed and let him do what he wanted as long as it suited her wants/needs.

 

[Fuzzy Wuzzy]

Its hard if I feel sorry for him or not. But I'm going to try to be TRUE AND HONEST here. I kinda did feel sorry for him that he wasn't able to make any friends because of his autism. I wished he was in the Grafton school and that would've helped him a lot. Also felt sorry for him that his parents won't let him get the help he needs. But then I felt infuriated when he was sexually harassing girls and became a flat out idiot. So I just gave up on thinking of sympathizing him. I think most of this was his parents' fault for stroking his ego and making him the person we know of today. Either way, he's done a lot of things that pissed me off. There's no way I could feel sorry for him when he made that video poking fun at the Twin Towers of NYC.

 

[Coldgrip]

I feel bad that when his end comes he'll be alone and without a real friend in the world. But he's had years to try to change his fate and has stubbornly refused to do so. No, no sympathy here. Just pity.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

I don't really feel sorry for Chris as much as I feel sorry for the man he could have been.

I'm not trying to lighten up the effect of autism on an individual. Autism is a real disorder, and it affects people greatly. But, with coping skills and life experience, many autistic people can learn to function in a "normal" world. They become active members of society despite their disability.

If Chris had had better parents and specialized education, he may very well have been such an individual. I remember seeing a photoshop of Chris on one of the past iterations of the forum. Somebody had taken a picture of Chris at one of his birthday dinners, removed the medallion and polo shirt, and put him in a blazer and dress shirt. He honestly looked good--a little overweight and awkward, perhaps, but nothing like the special autistic clown-shirted snowflake we laugh at today. I remember that photoshop, and I remember Chris as he could have been.

But now . . . he's basically a train wreck, and even Chris has the introspective ability to acknowledge it, judging by his last missive to his church. Fat--not just overweight, but honestly fucking fat--greasy hair, wrinkled clothes, baggy eyelids. A shadow of a man, a distilled portion of his potential. And that's what makes me the most sad about Chris.

 

[DJAndyMD]

I have mixed reactions about Chris. I pity him ad yet I do not. I understand that he had a crappy upbringing by clueless parents and he has autism. HOWEVER, that is where my sympathy for him ends.

Where I do not pity him is in four area:
1. His hypocrisy and especially in the Facebook post about gay marriage and his responses to both Anna and Kim
2. His ego is so inflated it makes Seto Kaiba look like a saint in comparison
3. The fact that he is not willing to help himself and expects to be spoon-fed by others....which leads to...
4. I know a lot of people who have autism or is disabled physically or mentally, but they at least do not use it as an excuse to not do anything or for their mistakes. They go beyond it and can accomplish a lot. Chris on the other hand does the one thing I hate, using his autism as an excuse for his own mistakes and never taking responsibility for his action.

 

[Marvin]

1. His hypocrisy and especially in the Facebook post about gay marriage and his responses to both Anna and Kim

Not that it makes him any less of an asshole (just a different kind of asshole), but Chris wasn't hypocritical in the facebook post about gay marriage. Chris was essentially saying "I like women, so I'm OK with them having gay marriage," which isn't hypocritical. It's a shitty position, but not a hypocritical one. It'd be hypocritical if Chris wanted to get gay married and was OK with his gay marriage, but not any other male gay marriages.

 

[DJAndyMD]

1. His hypocrisy and especially in the Facebook post about gay marriage and his responses to both Anna and Kim

Not that it makes him any less of an asshole (just a different kind of asshole), but Chris wasn't hypocritical in the facebook post about gay marriage. Chris was essentially saying "I like women, so I'm OK with them having gay marriage," which isn't hypocritical. It's a shitty position, but not a hypocritical one. It'd be hypocritical if Chris wanted to get gay married and was OK with his gay marriage, but not any other male gay marriages.

I guess. Its just that some people said it was hypocritical.

 

[QI 541]

1. His hypocrisy and especially in the Facebook post about gay marriage and his responses to both Anna and Kim

Not that it makes him any less of an asshole (just a different kind of asshole), but Chris wasn't hypocritical in the facebook post about gay marriage. Chris was essentially saying "I like women, so I'm OK with them having gay marriage," which isn't hypocritical. It's a shitty position, but not a hypocritical one. It'd be hypocritical if Chris wanted to get gay married and was OK with his gay marriage, but not any other male gay marriages.

I guess. Its just that some people said it was hypocritical.

The term you're looking for is "double standard".

 

[GFYS]

If we really wanted to, we could defer blame for all of the shitty things that a person does to our earliest mammalian ancestors. If we're all just a sum of our survival instincts and genetics right, then we should all just say "fuck society" and piss and crap wherever we like. Chris is stupid, but I've never believed him to be so mentally retarded - at least not until the past few years of isolation - that he wasn't capable of some degree of introspective reasoning. The fact that he tries to cast himself as the hero in his comics, and the tragedy that is his life, demonstrates to me that he at least has some idea who the "good guys" and "bad guys" are supposed to be. For whatever reason, though, he chooses to be the villain, because of his belief that the world revolves around him.

Unless he's profoundly more mentally broken than we're lead to believe; no matter how many stupid voices Borb and his school put in his mind, the last filter a thought or impulse goes through - before being executed - is Christian Weston Chandler. As such, it makes him the most responsible for the stupid and amoral shit he does.

In defense of Bob and Barb - and it chills my bones to say that - we've even seen several instances where they told him to get off the internet, stop posting goddamn videos, and hang up on the bitches... And Chris flat out ignores 'em. So, maybe Borb weren't always as negligent as we sometimes assume, and Chris has been wantonly disregarding any positive direct they tried to apply to him. Naturally, I don't think it absolves them of what negligence and abuse they did commit, but I think it's unreasonable to say the shit Chris - a man in his 30s - does, is entirely (or even mostly) their fault.