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Blissed said:
OK guys, the art looks cool. It's edgy and some shit I would have liked when I was 14.
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I mean, that's fine if that's what you're into. But that's all there is to it. It's an art project that someone bought a rule set from the journals of game ideas from the Mordheim guy(this happens a lot in the game industry where someone just buys an unused ruleset from a famous designer and tacks it onto an IP, whether knowingly or not as the famous designer just happens to have one ready to go just for them), and that's about it.
 
Blissed said:
A friend is trying to get me into Trench Crusade.

The lore looks really cool but I'm wary about anything that looks cool on the outset.
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Looking cool is most of what it has going for it. I backed the Kickstarter last year and have been watching it with increasing amusement and irritation ever since. They've made a lot of mistakes, including choosing to partner with a 3D printing company notorious for terrible prints and worse customer service, letting power-tripping dickheads run their semi-official Discord, screwing over the whales who sank hundreds into their game before it was even out, and refusing to hire actual project managers to help them sort their shit out.

A lot of the initial hype has died down as people realize that it's definitely not the "Warhammer killer" that some YouTubers were trying to push it as and because Discord infighting and dickery chased off a lot of people. Their scattershot approach to revealing new lore and rules has also been an annoyance, though they've finally started collecting lore snippets on the website instead of just randomly dropping them on social media.

I'm not convinced that TC is gonna last long at this rate. It's pretty niche, there's no incentive for game stores to support it, and the project team clearly wasn't ready to manage something like this. We'll see how it does, but it certainly isn't ever going to be as big as Warhammer, or even games like Bolt Action or Star Wars Legion.
 
TC fumbled the bag by partering with a shitty service for their physical rewards (Only Games) and not just offering a general merchant license or partering with slop channels like MiniWargaming (they're partnered with OPR and sell their minis) or companies like Wargames Atlantic (they're doing the plastic for Marcher after a succesful kickstarter, and most of their range was already useful for kitbashing TC).
Their base models were also filled with errors and puzzilingly, only two of the faction's basic troopers were built to be multipart, in a game that encourages kitbashing and creating custom /yourdudes/. The most popular faction, by virtue of being easy to understand, still has janky Monopose sculpts with no modularity, same with the rest of the non basic units for the two multipart factions, iirc. The gamebook copes by saying its model agostic, imo that works in a poverty game or alt ruleset like FUBAR or OPR, but this is a game where even an axe and a sword have different stats, like Mordheim, so it feels counter-productive imo.
 
Sunflower Samurai said:
TC fumbled the bag by partering with a shitty service for their physical rewards (Only Games) and not just offering a general merchant license or partering with slop channels like MiniWargaming (they're partnered with OPR and sell their minis) or companies like Wargames Atlantic (they're doing the plastic for Marcher after a succesful kickstarter, and most of their range was already useful for kitbashing TC).
Their base models were also filled with errors and puzzilingly, only two of the faction's basic troopers were built to be multipart, in a game that encourages kitbashing and creating custom /yourdudes/. The most popular faction, by virtue of being easy to understand, still has janky Monopose sculpts with no modularity, same with the rest of the non basic units for the two multipart factions, iirc. The gamebook copes by saying its model agostic, imo that works in a poverty game or alt ruleset like FUBAR or OPR, but this is a game where even an axe and a sword have different stats, like Mordheim, so it feels counter-productive imo.
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Miniwar Dave is the only one from the Miniwargaming team that talks about Trench Crusade.
 
So out of curiosity I looked at Arcadum's kickstarter after a month and now he's down to 18 days to go(I didn't even know you could set these things for 2 months). Has 0 comments or comments on updates. Lost $5,534 in pledges(and the $7,777 tier that had 1 buyer but 3/5 remaining is at 4/5 remaining) with an additional $1000 tier that's been added at some point with no backers but gets you signed copies of the books from the $150 tier plus getting to name an NPC(whoopdeedoo).
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Because he lost such a huge chunk of support, this update for the campaign didn't age well. Back when he started the campaign he was already at 10% funding, but now he's down to 11%
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p1138 said:
So out of curiosity I looked at Arcadum's kickstarter after a month and now he's down to 18 days to go(I didn't even know you could set these things for 2 months). Has 0 comments or comments on updates. Lost $5,534 in pledges(and the $7,777 tier that had 1 buyer but 3/5 remaining is at 4/5 remaining) with an additional $1000 tier that's been added at some point with no backers but gets you signed copies of the books from the $150 tier plus getting to name an NPC(whoopdeedoo).
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Yeah, the reason why no on sets them to last that long is you're bound to lose backers as other interesting things come out, plus the bulk of support comes from the start and end of campaigns. This guy is a total idiot that did zero research on how kickstarter campaigns go so I can only assume he didn't research anything else.
 
p1138 said:
So out of curiosity I looked at Arcadum's kickstarter after a month and now he's down to 18 days to go(I didn't even know you could set these things for 2 months). Has 0 comments or comments on updates. Lost $5,534 in pledges(and the $7,777 tier that had 1 buyer but 3/5 remaining is at 4/5 remaining) with an additional $1000 tier that's been added at some point with no backers but gets you signed copies of the books from the $150 tier plus getting to name an NPC(whoopdeedoo).
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Because he lost such a huge chunk of support, this update for the campaign didn't age well. Back when he started the campaign he was already at 10% funding, but now he's down to 11%
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It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
If he and tiff are still together he could at least offer free months of her OnlyFans and maybe get his target.

Too bad he was only a remote creep to those D-list VTubers he got in with; I bet if he could offer some worn VTuber panties as physical reward and that $7,777 tier would be sold out by now.



Buckaroo said:
This guy is a total idiot that did zero research
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This is one of two default states for Arcadum. The other is "sobbing and cooming while a VR stripper feeling nothing but pity noclips her ass into his headset".
 
Oh that's the guy that tried to make his own Critical Role with vtubers? Well that explains why he's so retarded.
 
Buckaroo said:
Oh that's the guy that tried to make his own Critical Role with vtubers? Well that explains why he's so retarded.
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His Critical Role with vtubers actually went pretty well all things considered. (he was a garbage GM, but the viewers didn't care)
And the VR Chat LARP he ran was also very popular.

But what he tried to make his own weird VRchat ERP harem with the D-list vtubers so he could pity-trip them and get them to give him the emotional validation he wasn't getting from his G-list Vtuber fiancee.
 
Why do game stores always have some rainbow shit behind the counter? I've noticed all of my local shops have either a rainbow plush/funko pop or a fag flag sticker or something similar some where. I don't like in the kind of area where you see that, it's very conservative and seeing a fag flag not put up by the government is extremely rare. So why do game stores always have one? I'm thinking it's some fat ugly dyke giving them to the owner as a gift and they don't care enough to say no and just take it to be nice and keep the customer buying Magic packs.

What do you guys think?
 
Trench Crusade has partnered with Miniwargaming and Wargames Atlantic for a 32mm plastic set


7 guys for 44.95USD, they're incompatible with the rest of the WGA range (since its 28mm) and it seems to be monopose. There are people in the comments expressing concerns for the price to mini ratio, since WGA usually has good value for money, most of their kits are around 24 or so human sized 28mm dudes for 34.95USD
 
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Sunflower Samurai said:
Trench Crusade has partnered with Miniwargaming and Wargames Atlantic for a 32mm plastic set

7 guys for 44.95USD, they're incompatible with the rest of the WGA range (since its 28mm) and it seems to be monopose. There are people in the comments expressing concerns for the price to mini ratio, since WGA usually has good value for money, most of their kits are around 24 or so human sized 28mm dudes for 34.95USD
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Me at first: "7 guys for $50 isn't really that bad."
Sees the other prices.
"Oh shit that is pretty bad."
 
Sunflower Samurai said:
Trench Crusade has partnered with Miniwargaming and Wargames Atlantic for a 32mm plastic set

7 guys for 44.95USD, they're incompatible with the rest of the WGA range (since its 28mm) and it seems to be monopose. There are people in the comments expressing concerns for the price to mini ratio, since WGA usually has good value for money, most of their kits are around 24 or so human sized 28mm dudes for 34.95USD
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Gotta love how no one gives a damn about Trench Crusade's "lore."
 
Ill edit later with a screenshot, but a commenter on that WGA article alleges that FactoryFortress (the TC company) actually announced at NOVA Open that plastic was coming soon (tm)
 
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