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Just came across this....Any thoughts?

In the Darrick thread I made, he referenced it because he liked the panic system it had in it.

Reading it... the inspirations and the style of the cover I like, I will note that their changes from the initial build basically makes it feel like Cyberpunk 2020 now, since the way combat works is basically that now.

The pronoun bit is really damn bad now that I caught up to the sheets. I knew it was going to be made by a woke company since that was brought up in the thread, but I don't have a clue on how hard it fucks up the tone and how bad the mechanics will be due to that wokeshit.

I'd say based on what I'm looking at it could honestly go either way, but I'd have to get a copy and I'll be honest; I tend to be cautious about them unless I get some decent feedback on what's good and what isn't.
 
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What a shame, a good concept that 10 years ago would have probably been a no-brainer.

And yep, pronouns and disaster lesbian or troon for the double virtue signal.

Why does everything suck?

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Eh, even if you strip out the pronouns and the shit-tier art, RPGs where ranged weapons are the norm are usually kinda dicey (heh), since its hard to get guns right. But their 'Monster Manual' might as well not even be included (also players should never read the MM). Which I get that its horror, there should be things left vague, but even a supplementary "Hey, Monster should have these properties, and weigh this much, and be about this size and move like this. It probably will also have these special abilities and rules. Here's how the players are supposed to win when this the monster (such as "Cannot be killed, evac to shuttle is they only hope")"

Its also got a lot of other warning signs that tell me "High on concept, low on execution" like 'monsters are supposed to be things you build 1-3 sessions around'. Ok, how do I do that? where are monster forms and stages on the sheet?

I see they use "armor points" where you ignore your AP but damage over degrades your AP. Which sounds all well and good except it really quickly sends you down a failure cascade where you fuck up one time and now your armor is fucked and now you are more likely to get fucked. Which is realistic but makes for bad game play more often than not as it goes from "Fine...Fine...Fine... Complete shit & party wipe".

Plus the "panic" charts sounds like is not much fun. Its really hard to do fear properly in a game, since every player takes Immune to Fear as a player feat you can't really run fear without removing player agency and that chart has a 30% chance of doing just that. (Fear is another thing I'll admit 5e does decently). And I see they have possession, which again its a neat concept and goes with a horror theme, but you're taking player agency and that's no bueno.

Thought I like the idea of a skill flow chart/skill grid and I might try to steal the concept to build off of in the future. (I'd had the idea of skill trees, but having designated entry points upstream where you start with a higher level skill, and giving you the option of training underlying skills is something I'd not thought of)

In the Darrick thread I made, he referenced it because he liked the panic system it had in it.

Reading it... the inspirations and the style of the cover I like, I will note that their changes from the initial build basically makes it feel like Cyberpunk 2020 now, since the way combat works is basically that now.

The pronoun bit is really damn bad now that I caught up to the sheets. I knew it was going to be made by a woke company since that was brought up in the thread, but I don't have a clue on how hard it fucks up the tone and how bad the mechanics will be due to that wokeshit.

I'd say based on what I'm looking at it could honestly go either way, but I'd have to get a copy and I'll be honest; I tend to be cautious about them unless I get some decent feedback on what's good and what isn't.

Oh this mother ship. There's a 4x board game called Mothership and I thought that's what Derrick was talking about.
Also, of course Derrick would like the thing that has 30% odds of removing player agency.
 
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Again, I get the ethos of the game: it's using high lethality style rules like how older Cyberpunk works, since one good shot and you either die, or your enemy does. There's an appeal to that playstyle, and I think in horror it works very well.

I just don't know how fucked the book is with proselytizing bullshit. It's why I won't touch Nu-TSR's hippy bullshit book.
 
Funny enough all of the RPGs that I've gathered from Free League (e.g. Tales from the Loop, Alien, Vaesen, even Mork Borg) seem pretty barren of virtue signaling (besides the usual "gaming is for everyone" spiel, or "don't worry about historical accuracy with gender roles if you don't want to"). I mostly ignore their Twattering (except what I find in this site), so it's been rather good so far...

SO FAR.
 
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Funny enough all of the RPGs that I've gathered from Free League (e.g. Tales from the Loop, Alien, Vaesen, even Mork Borg) seem pretty barren of virtue signaling (besides the usual "gaming is for everyone" spiel, or "don't worry about historical accuracy with gender roles if you don't want to"). I mostly ignore their Twattering (except what I find in this site), so it's been rather good so far...

SO FAR.
My only gripe with Free League's Alien book is how pozzed it is with Alien: Covenant and Prometheus bullshit, but that's just the fan in me really fucking hating the former, and genuinely believing the latter should've been just either set in a different universe and setting, or kept as Alien: Engineer's OG script.

It's a fine book despite that.
 
My only gripe with Free League's Alien book is how pozzed it is with Alien: Covenant and Prometheus bullshit, but that's just the fan in me really fucking hating the former, and genuinely believing the latter should've been just either set in a different universe and setting, or kept as Alien: Engineer's OG script.

It's a fine book despite that.
At least they mostly keep it vague and optional. You can run the game while completely ignoring those films, honestly.
 
Oh no....

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Well, that goes on your wishlist now, doesn't it @Adamska?
In between Comrade the Revolution, Doikayt the Jewish TTRPG, Irradiated Fur, Moonpunk, more TSL, and the Black Furies book, I'm well glutted on shitlib books tbh.

I also have shit old books like Alma Mater, Synibarr, Cha'alt, Fursona 5e, and the OSR Zardoz to sift through. There's also interesting books like Giant Monster Attack, Hollow Earth Expedition, and Cadillac and Dinosaurs too. This isn't even including the stuff planned this week: IE we dip into Warhammer with Mordheim. Basically, just on my end alone we have more than enough to do recorded episodes or streams with depending on how hard the crew and I want to do this.

I'm not sacrificing my wallet for this farce, this pile of shit Evil Hat probably is making because TSL was such a successful little scam. Especially since I already have several books in pipeline for recordings and streams. Hell, I've still yet to get around to Dogs in the Vineyard, which has been a long held game for us to record going through.
 
It's sad to see. Back before they drunk the Flavor-Aid, they made some interesting high-concept games. Now...well, get woke, go broke...
I fell in love with Diaspora as a game but I always knew they were pretentious and autistic. You could see it coming with everyone who jumped headfirst into Forge-ism. They have good core concepts but bad ideas about why, when, and how you should use them.
 
It's sad to see. Back before they drunk the Flavor-Aid, they made some interesting high-concept games. Now...well, get woke, go broke...
bah plenty of people will fund this but will likely never actually play it. It’s all about posting on social media so that everyone knows how virtuous they are by supporting it.

In fact, I’ll bet that there will be a Medium article by a contributor saying as much: that straight, white people must fund this or they’re Nazis… but they shouldn’t ever play it because that would be appropriation of LGBTBBQPOC bodies or something. “Give us money, but don’t play because we’re so elitist and speshul”.
 
This is Emmy Allen, known also as Cavegirl.

They're known for creating:
Gardens of Ynn, Wolfpacks and Winter Snow, and Stygian Library.
Actually great products that wasn't whatever the hell this is.

They were also a moderator for the OSR Discord, but they were kicked out because of drama.

They're also known for A-logging Zak, who, for some weird reason believes that 4Chan loves this trans person. I don't know why, but alledgely they were Zak's 4chan spy but take that as you will.

Their blog: https://cavegirlgames.blogspot.com/
 
In between Comrade the Revolution, Doikayt the Jewish TTRPG, Irradiated Fur, Moonpunk, more TSL, and the Black Furies book, I'm well glutted on shitlib books tbh.

I also have shit old books like Alma Mater, Synibarr, Cha'alt, Fursona 5e, and the OSR Zardoz to sift through. There's also interesting books like Giant Monster Attack, Hollow Earth Expedition, and Cadillac and Dinosaurs too. This isn't even including the stuff planned this week: IE we dip into Warhammer with Mordheim. Basically, just on my end alone we have more than enough to do recorded episodes or streams with depending on how hard the crew and I want to do this.

I'm not sacrificing my wallet for this farce, this pile of shit Evil Hat probably is making because TSL was such a successful little scam. Especially since I already have several books in pipeline for recordings and streams. Hell, I've still yet to get around to Dogs in the Vineyard, which has been a long held game for us to record going through.
Wait... those are all real titles?

Also where's your youtube?
 
That would be Dice Scum.

Which reminds me, I need to watch the Dark Sun stream properly. I had it on as background noise while gaming and forgot most of it already.
Ah so he is one of the dice scum. Had a total drive error there and blanked out on the name.
 
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