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His tranny* jannies.
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Furry tranny* jannies.
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That cripple dragon is a good example of the fine line of whimsy and thinly veiled fetish. If they made it a wagon being pulled by hobbits and it was more a lazy than obese dragon it could work.
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Quick Trench Crusade Kickstarter update:
Nothing really new on the models front, Only-Games is still shoveling out crap and ignoring the complaints. The TC guy on Kickstarter is reminding people that they're contractually obligated to deliver everything that was ordered and he'll personally see to it that they do (*surejan.gif intensifies*), but the fact that OG is actively blowing off people who spent over $1000 and got less than half their order isn't a great look. Meanwhile, the plastic Prussians are apparently now in the wild and the backers who still haven't gotten anything are less than thrilled about that, as you can imagine.
The rulebooks have started going out, but TC once again managed to get a shithead partner who cuts corners, so the first wave of books went out in thin boxes with no bubble wrap or other protection and some of them have turned up with absolutely destroyed covers. TC Guy says that their sample copies were sent in much better packaging (no shit, OG did the same thing to them with the test prints) and claims that this has been corrected, but given that the books were sent out for distribution weeks ago, I don't see how they propose to correct the issue now. They've also pushed out the first full update to the rules since the 1.0 release, so the books are technically now outdated before they've even landed in the majority of backers' hands.
This whole thing has been fun to watch, tbh. Last time I saw people go from hyped to disappointed and frustrated this quickly was the Game of Thrones finale.
Nothing really new on the models front, Only-Games is still shoveling out crap and ignoring the complaints. The TC guy on Kickstarter is reminding people that they're contractually obligated to deliver everything that was ordered and he'll personally see to it that they do (*surejan.gif intensifies*), but the fact that OG is actively blowing off people who spent over $1000 and got less than half their order isn't a great look. Meanwhile, the plastic Prussians are apparently now in the wild and the backers who still haven't gotten anything are less than thrilled about that, as you can imagine.
The rulebooks have started going out, but TC once again managed to get a shithead partner who cuts corners, so the first wave of books went out in thin boxes with no bubble wrap or other protection and some of them have turned up with absolutely destroyed covers. TC Guy says that their sample copies were sent in much better packaging (no shit, OG did the same thing to them with the test prints) and claims that this has been corrected, but given that the books were sent out for distribution weeks ago, I don't see how they propose to correct the issue now. They've also pushed out the first full update to the rules since the 1.0 release, so the books are technically now outdated before they've even landed in the majority of backers' hands.
This whole thing has been fun to watch, tbh. Last time I saw people go from hyped to disappointed and frustrated this quickly was the Game of Thrones finale.
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The like 3 TC """players""" and the like 8 other peoeple who pretend to be interested will be devastated by this update. (No they won't they will pretend it is the CHUDs fault).
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I mean yeah, if I got that much money, I too would want to make sure I am able to pocket as much of it as possible. Their choice of partners is no mistake lmfao.
There used to be a TC league in my city, but it has since shut down due to lack of intrest in the span of a few months lmfao.
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Trench Crusade is probably the best advertisement against tabletop Kickstarter projects there has ever been.
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Its beyond me how people keep backing this slop, and somehow expect different results.
I'd say the 100 other kickstarters that have sucdeeded, and then resulted in customers not getting shit over the past few years should have been the best advertisement against it, but consoomers gotta consoom and will never learn.
Releasing a rules revision would have been inevitable. But if they were going to print the books so late... make those the 1.1 version or at least delay the 1.1 so the average customer feels less bad about their books getting outdated after a period of time, rather than before they even get the fucking things. If anything the benchmark for a major rules revision should have been after the backers got their shit. Not only would you have happier customers, you'd have more feedback to produce more substantial updates rather than smaller updates based off of feedback from only a portion of the customer base. But any real project or product manager could have fucking told them this.
And this is the problem when you have idiots hyping shit up with no sense of real scale. 3 million dollars isn't shit, and 20,000 backers scattered around the world is fucking meaningless. This is from my post in the 40k thread about player counts based off of their kickstarter numbers
So with the best case scenario of only 2500 LGS worldwide(bullshit because GW has a bit over 500 just on their own) averaging 6.5 backers per store, if half of 'em don't even have their shit yet that brings it right back down to 3 players. Even if we double the number to account for the post kickstarter sales(since they did double their revenue) that's still a whole 6 players for the surrounding area of each store and that's assuming the people are actually interested in playing and not just leaving their physical minis collecting dust or whatever like what happens with most tabletop kickstarters.
It sounds like the couple of local players your area had got bored within a couple of months. If I look at the discord for my local game store that actually made a channel for TC because someone at the shop was interested enough to try and support it, there's been one message in the past three months of someone asking if they could get a demo game with no response and that was weeks ago. The other LGS in the area didn't even bother making a channel for it in their discord because why the fuck would they? There's nothing in it for the store at all except maybe hobby supply sales.
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"A game with no rules, no minis, no lore, just some edgelord art from a guy who has never shipped a game and is promsiing all the rest will come with 'just trust me bro' as assurance? I'm in for $5,000."
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Suffah TC dents, SUFFAH.
Seriously, it's amazing that they cocked up the books that badly too given that it's not hard to ship those; other companies did them fine for fuck's sake. Modiphius, Onyx Path, and others were more than able to do that shit.
It's making Coyote and Crow's release look good. That's how badly they cocked this up.
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They flat-out admitted in the latest project update that they originally weren't planning to update the rules for some time, but then they got all excited because of the money and the people they recruited and decided to push the update out now. Quote:
"Originally we did not plan to update the rules any time soon, but given the way the project has grown and allowed us to develop our design team, we’ve already been able to publish an updated version 1.0.1., which you can download from the Rules page of our website. To clarify however, the 1.0 ruleset is still 100% relevant and playable, and is the Trench Crusade you all know and love. Nothing is going to change that!"
Well, no, it's not 100% relevant anymore, because it's no longer the most up-to-date set of rules. Sure, it's still playable, but if the new rules give some sweaty asshole the advantage they're going to insist on using those. The book is now a glorified artbook, which is what it should have been from the start considering their decision to have the rules be a free, living document.
Just as a contrast: earlier this year I backed a different campaign for the new edition of a TTRPG I was interested in. That company had done this before and had their shit together. They kept their backers updated, were up-front about delays and production issues, paid attention to the feedback from the beta release of the rules, and delivered their product in a reasonable time frame that was more or less what they'd quoted at the outset. Everything I ordered showed up all together and in excellent condition, and before I'd gotten my TC models. That company has earned my trust as a consumer and I'll happily support their future releases. Compared to them, TC can eat shit.
wtf? That makes no sense, their rules team have an entire fucking campaign system and possible expansion factions to write. I was referring to a 1.1, and they did a 1.01? That's the opposite of making sure that the updates are meaningful and substantial. Wanting to make sure you're playing the same version of the game doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being a sweaty try-hard if all you want to do is just make sure you're all using the same fucking rules. Who the hell wants to be playing 1.0 of a game vs 10 versions later at 1.3.12 or whatever unless it's the old 1.0 having some broken shit that gives an advantage?
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From what I can gather, they let their game be in playable beta for quite some time and the fanbase rules lawyered and broke it in some ways, found genuine oversights in others, factions were janky.
I might be off base, but the current state of the internet seems to end up giving a lot of leeway to retarded rules churns and tweaks, its happened to 40k, to OPR, I've heard Warcrow got hit with that too. Etc. So TC thought they could get away with it, even though their LARP of being a totally reel published game necisitated a hefty printed book, where atleast some games admit to being PDF first and foremost. They should've just sold worldbooks with no rules and just told the fanbase to print them at the risk of constant update, but they seemingly can't do shit right
And that's all the more reason to have left it as a beta until you can get a physical 1.0 book out the door once and people have received their shit(and had time to actually play with it) gather the feedback and update it later.
40k needs the rules updates. OPR I couldn't tell you as I don't play it. Warcrow? That game also still only has maybe 3 factions released and actually playable in the game because they've slow-rolled the release so badly.
Speaking of warcrow... holy shit their website. When they first announced the game it had faction summaries, showed off art and models, and was easy to navigate. Then they updated the page closer to launch, pulled most of the info and you couldn't actually see much of anything other than some basic text descriptions of the factions and setting. Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago and the site was just fucking broken for a couple of days. Looking at it now, it just plays a video on a loop showing close ups of minis but you can't actually click on anything and scrolling just takes you to all of their social media links.
Instead to browse the models, you have to go to their store page which doesn't even properly categorize all of the factions(using the nations filter in the menu on the left) nor are the faction names always in the model/unit names or even the item descriptions at times once you've clicked on an item.
Corvus Belli isn't a new company, they've been around the block and should know better than this. Similar stupidity happened with Wyrd Miniatures and Malifaux 3rd edition with the company acting as if they had no idea what the fuck they were doing for marketing, distribution, etc. and damn near killed their IP in the process. At this point GW is kind of like Steam, they just win by doing nothing because their competitors are all fucking dumb as dirt.