Tamers12345 - Autistic Sonic and Bartleby Shipper and Video Maker

Dickinson's Real Deal said:
Not been keeping up with post-MLP Tamers and by extension this thread. Can somebody fill me in on when the two Tamers theory became a more acceptable stance and why?
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the theory is currently unsubstantiated as (the) Tamer(s) haven't provided concrete proof to prove two Tamers theory. But I also want to add (the) Tamer(s) haven't disproven it either... I also want to add, that it is a logical conclusion that happens when you consider that a singular Tamer's work-output and how insane it is, putting some cartoon and anime studios to shame; even though his style is simple.

Physical evidence includes...
  • First Physical Instance of Someone else
    • Another person that talks like Tamers? But Sportacus could've easily been a friend. And the accent? I doubt everyone in Oklahoma talks like that. It has to be a brother. I'd say an older brother as this may explain why the other Tamers wasn't seen for so long
Implied Evidence
There was also some blowout fairly recently between the Tamers(?), but it could very well be a troll from him/them/their group? just to screw with everyone. Since this crashout, they may have reconciled with each other,

doNOTcallthefuckingcops said:
Seems like all is not well in the Tamers household.
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Fedsmokers_secret_stash said:
This was just posted to Tamer's patreon they will be splitting the channels. Sonic Underground forever
Link to patreon post
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I also might be hallucinating, but I could've sworn there was another one of these posts, about the other being jealous being posted earlier
 
Ensi said:
It has to be a brother. I'd say an older brother as this may explain why the other Tamers wasn't seen for so long
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I would like to make an addendum to my baseless conjecture, it could be a brother OR a cousin.
 
ASeabear8952 said:
It’s not like SU did this premise before.

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Going to need someone here to ping me later tonight, I was on the fence about verifying it before due to the difference between suspected art and a suspect’s current art style but the way that shitty OC is drawn in that thumbnail may very well have confirmed who me and a few others suspect Tamers #2 to be.
 
Start of the episode starts strong with a reference to Lacari. Other than that, it was interesting breaking the 4th wall (Marionette complaining about she is farted on with every apperance), it became gay again with more relationship drama (Marionette and Shiny Armor) (Trixie becoming jealous when a Twilight from another was seen with Sunset Shimmer from another universe), (Mulatto Changeling Drone meeting Shiny Armor). Fortunately the episode sort of redeemed itself at the end, with the retarded ponies and Fluttershy wanting Orange chicken.

6/10 watchable and has humor, drama is light but still present, still not SU
 
Ensi said:
6/10 watchable and has humor, drama is light but still present, still not SU
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Maybe I'm just a sucker, but I think it's fun. The writing for everything that isn't Braeburn or Applebottom feels like it still has the soul of old Tamers. I'm not going to sweep for Dandy's World stuff, though.
 
Knee Heel No Womb said:
Maybe I'm just a sucker, but I think it's fun. The writing for everything that isn't Braeburn or Applebottom feels like it still has the soul of old Tamers. I'm not going to sweep for Dandy's World stuff, though.
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nah, I am with you, I think it was definitely a fun episode, and something you should watch if you dont mind the pony shit. And , if I am being honest, I am acting like a bitch with score because it wasn't SU.
 
Enig said:
Going to need someone here to ping me later tonight, I was on the fence about verifying it before due to the difference between suspected art and a suspect’s current art style but the way that shitty OC is drawn in that thumbnail may very well have confirmed who me and a few others suspect Tamers #2 to be.
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Alright I'll bite, what's your theory
 
Has anyone ever asked tamers about the price of digivices in current year eternal? People want like 500 dollars for cool tamogachis with cards and the reissues are like 200 for no fucking reason. Makes me want to kill a bitch.
 
MODERN SONIC SCHOLAR said:
They renamed #13420 to kaya?
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just rewatched, I dont think I heard #13420 being called kaya (I might be mistaken).

MODERN SONIC SCHOLAR said:
Seems like Irrational member 14 was right, both tamers work on singular episodes, unless if Yuri forgets to put eye highlights in certain frames.
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Makes sense, the original release schedule for SU was about every 2 weeks. I doubt the POWERFUL, AUTISTIC, and SEXY (no homo) Tamers can complete these videos by himself on a weekly basis.

The Lawgiver said:
Has anyone ever asked tamers about the price of digivices in current year eternal? People want like 500 dollars for cool tamogachis with cards and the reissues are like 200 for no fucking reason. Makes me want to kill a bitch.
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What?
 
Ensi said:
What?
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LuminescentFart said:
Alright I'll bite, what's your theory
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A few weeks ago, guy I know in a chat came in asking if some old art by a furry name Vinny-Van-Yiffy (currently known for a) way too fucking much foot fetish art, and b) gooning to the rabbit from Vib Ribbon too hard years ago) made while under a far older username of "echidnajoe" looked awfully familiar to the second artist that has been doing the aggressively gay artwork.

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Very similar linework and proportions, has the thing for two dot highlights in the iris.

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Pretty resemblant ability for drawing resting bitch face, and conveniently uses a Robotnik design that was used in the western end of things with AoSTH, SatAM and... Sonic Underground.

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More fetish-y art under his current name, has the same thing going on with iris highlights and I also made the mistake of turning off NSFW filtering under this name dear fucking god

Now, two things that discredit it on the surface for me are the fact the echidnajoe name has leads as far back as 2003 on Newgrounds and the wildly different look all of his fetish shit on FA has, but at the same time the fact that his few MLP pics from years and years ago just so happen to have a lot of the same traits the fujo tamers is showing is oddly suspect on top of how that video thumbnail is oddly furry art leaning with the face and fur edges going on which after making myself click through all of his gallery on FA I noticed did show up in some of his past artwork too.
Then again even if it's not true it'd be funny as shit to make his new fans believe that he's a foot fetish gooner using these.
 
This is the hardest I’ve laughed at an MLP episode in a long time. The reference to the Lacari drama caught me off guard. The crippled ponies were the best.

Also potential PPG video. Honestly I wouldn’t mind seeing one.

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@Dickinson's Real Deal read page 142 of this thread. That's when the tweet of interest was uploaded. That tweet was made by the hidden Tamers who was upset, and I suppose felt underappreciated, and who was inflamed by a sudden retraction of a an episode of Tamer's MLP was was premiering (See the content of the tweet in the image of this post). In the tweet, the hidden Tamers exposes themselves and the operation of Tamer's studio in implication. A few hours later the tweet was still alive and the hidden Tamers, Fujo Tamers set off to create their own YouTube channel "Tamers12345Dandy's world", and Our Tamers claimed that, like the proceedings of divorce court that many of the "Stallion-focused episodes" (I quote Fujo Tamers) would be rehoused on that new YouTube channel. Our Tamers has the keys to the Patreon account of their business and they split profits 50/50, which is possibly impetus of this event, and he announced the split on the Patreon. (On this and preceding dates, the Patreon post are the offical records. That and the letter of Fujo Tamers)

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[The thing that Fujo Tamers uploaded to the Tamer's offical twitter. Why didn't they type into the Twitter post box, I don't know. Possibly because of the character limit. This looks like the screen of Apple Inotes. Seems that Tamers trusted Fujo Tamers enough to allow them to create adverts and sneak-peaks for episodes by Twitter. Seems also that this trust was misplaced. Because this was actually posted to Tamer's twitter on the 12th of December last year.]

We believe that the two reconciled and sought to recover from the damage that someone's hissyfit had caused to the image, because the tweet was deleted and nothing came of Tamers12345Dandy's World. Two Tamers theory is not much of a conspiracy anymore since the temper tantrum. The next can of worms for us nosy people is understanding why Fujo Tamers is the way that they are, principally so I can hate them more than I do already, grrr.
...And now talk is that Fujo Tamers is a tranny! The horror, the disgust, the betrayal.

Ensi said:
but it could very well be a troll from him/them/their group? just to screw with everyone.
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Incredulity be damned if so. The sequence of events feels like very genuine emotion in the outcome of an emotional argument and one where creative attribution and money are invoked.


@Ensi if it is two people in Sportacus Escapes and The Offical Sonic Underground Rap video, then they have really really really similar voices. The Offical Sonic Underground Rap video makes me think that it is a friend who unbelievably sounds exactly like Tamers himself. (I've been in Discord calls with two strangers who's voices I couldn't tell apart before, so I slate it.) But I think that this friend isn't Fujo Tamers, because we know that Tamers was solo in the beginning and the friend was the cameraman when he was needed.

That's inquiry to inspire more discussion actually. Does anybody in the fan club know when it is that Tamers employed Fujo Tamers? The earliest that I can put it is Sonic goes to Goodwill. I'm remembering that one saucy scene, you know the one.

If as I suggest there is a way to attribute a scene in any epsiode of Tamer's SU or Tamer's MLP to either, then the earlist instance of the mark is the date that Fujo Tamers got engaged in the production.
 
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