TASKFORCE ∅ - This is my swamp

[space man]

Josh- I sincerely hope you are not entering your swamp witch era.

To survive this- I'm not going to do a thing. I'm in a swamp. They're a bunch of troons. This is implying they leave their houses or touch grass. The most I would consider doing is placing signs on the property line saying "no girls allowed" then kick it in the swamp and listen to Josh the Swamp Witch's psychotherapy sessions and shit post that we can't hear his mic.

You ever see a man in heels try to run? Yeah, they're not going to traverse a swamp.

 

[Ethel_Blucifer]

Booby-traps are criminal.

They have boobies and they are traps, and many of them criminal as well.

Will they be riding half-starved alpaca?
How obvious is the manufactured home? Cause honestly, those won't stop a bullet, so you'd be better off using it as a decoy. Stash stuff and make hiding places in the swamp and out-flank them.
Honestly, wire the place up for video. Let's you see where they are, AND lets you amuse the masses with entertainment.

 

[Schpoots]

After reading how you're turning your house into a fortress, I would render all your defenses useless by avoiding them. Instead of getting into a protracted firefight with you I would just sit at the edge of your swamp and take you out from afar with a cheap sniper rifle. Security cameras are useless if you're not actively watching them 24/7, so the occasional glance isn't going to notice my ghilie-suited ass lurking in a bush and body armor doesn't matter if you aren't wearing it. I have some of those AI human detecting cameras and they mostly detect leaves and clouds. I'll just wait until your watching TV and put one in your dome thru the window.

To reduce the chance of long range bullshit, I'd get a tall fence built around my property. I'd say rock so they can't cut a hole to shoot thru but thats probally stupidly expensive compared to wood. Then flatten any terrain around the outside of the wall so they can't get a height position to fire over the wall it. If you want to be real shizo then get a house that doesn't have signifigant mountains around it that could be used for long range sniping / surveilance. Have poison ivy, spikey bushes and other horrible shit planted on the other side of the wall so it cant be easily scaled. Give your dogs access to both sides of the wall so they can freely patrol all of it.

Then keep everything between the wall and your house clear. Not only does this mean your attackers wont have any cover, but they'll also be trapped inside your walls so you'll know all their possible movement options. If they want to escape then have to go to the front gate. If they want to survive they'll have to force their way into your home. That shoulden't be possible if your windows and doors are barred to prevent forced entry.

If you're going to have any garages/sheds then I'd make sure they're all forified, have hidden weapons and have at-least a basement or second floor. Level differences force attackers thru deadly chokepoints to persue you. Since you're always going to be on the defense you can just bunker down and camp them. Then call the cops and wait your attackers out. They're on a time table, not you.

EXPIERIENCE: Real American hero with almost 2,000 hours of Arma II play time.

Realistically, tho, if anything happens it will probally be a hit and run attack. Like a molotov to the porch or some random shots from the road. So get a fence, gate and cameras. If people cant fuck with you without being caught then I think it would deter a lot of harrasing behaviour.

 

[888Flux]

Josh- I sincerely hope you are not entering your swamp witch era.

To survive this- I'm not going to do a thing. I'm in a swamp. They're a bunch of troons. This is implying they leave their houses or touch grass. The most I would consider doing is placing signs on the property line saying "no girls allowed" then kick it in the swamp and listen to Josh the Swamp Witch's psychotherapy sessions and shit post that we can't hear his mic.

You ever see a man in heels try to run? Yeah, they're not going to traverse a swamp.

because
psychopathic
trannies
have
never
murdered
anyone,
ever.

 

[CeleryBread]

Giving a bit of an unconventional/probably useless suggestion (I work/study in a plant science field) that you could consider planting defensive borders. Maclura pomifera (Osage Orange) was actually used once upon a time as natural property defense until barbed wire replaced it. Extremely hardy, has very, very nasty thorns, and a dense growth habit.
Somebody earlier brought up blackberries, that and some raspberry cultivars can be extremely thorny so they could work. Another I can think of is the Euphorbia genus; some of the species can have massive thorns, and all species produce latex which is highly irritating to the skin (though the latex is inside the plant, so you'd have to prune/nick fleshy parts). You could also just go full batshit swamp witch and cover the place in poison ivy/oak/sumac

 

[ThinkThankThunk]

If I absolutely had to stay somewhere where hostilities were inevitable and I was constrained to realistic options I'd set up a second small house on the property and regularly switch between them to split any potential attacker's focus. If there were no constraints at all I'd build an underground shelter and live primarily out of that and hope that in the event of an attack I could get behind the intruders and set up a fighting position or escape, but a swamp largely prohibits that and it's very expensive to build a proper shelter capable of living out of long-term.

It's already been said but a small group of dedicated attackers is capable of just about anything you can imagine, it's why the SBS was so successful and became the pattern for every modern military on the planet. They could burn the property to flush you out, drive a vehicle full of explosives into the property, just sit in a ditch somewhere off the property and wait to dome you, build an IED drone, construct a chemical mortar; basically whatever you can imagine. You could try reading some of the public domain military manuals that are floating around in stuff like the ar/k/ torrent if you'd like an idea of what kind of basis any attackers could be working off of.

 

[Gangstalker #32194]

I would get some poison detection kits to check food and drink for adulteration.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Don't gear up like you're fighting soldiers in a field. For your scenario, the biggest concern is maximizing defender's advantage. For that, you need restricted access, physical barriers, and excellent warning systems.

Spoiler: Forewarned is forearmed

Cameras will actually be your last step, once you get your land and barriers in place. But it's the most crucial element in keeping you from being caught off guard, and the most flexible part of your defenses. Wherever you wind up going, make sure every approach is covered by cameras, so you always know where on your property the threats are.

The biggest concern is getting cameras all around your property perimeter, cams or sensors along the driveway, and cams on your house. You need to know when they're coming, otherwise they just walk up to your shack and empty mags into your walls. You don't know when they're coming, but on that day the critical thing is for you to see them before they see you.

You want something that runs wired or wireless, NOT cellular service, and connects to a local home base station, NOT the cloud. It should have an app or notification that lets you know when motion is detected, preferably without turning on a light to let intruders know you spotted them. Night vision is a must.

My recommendation is either Arlo or Eufy camera systems. Both brands are local, expandable, and don't require a subscription service**. You basically buy a base station then however many cameras you want to connect, I think each station can handle a few dozen devices. When buying cameras, don't go for highest video quality; go for coverage, night vision, solar power, etc. Some have 4G/5G backup antennas, which might be necessary if you can't get Wifi out to the edge of your swamp.

**Arlo does require a subscription for "premium features" like recording to the cloud or smart detection, but you can get the needed functionality without it. Eufy offers some of those features without a subscription, but is a bit less technologically advanced.

Spoiler: swamp streets

"Restricted access" means a limited number of ways to approach your home. If you're in a literal swamp, that might be a single driveway, which is good. If you're out in an unfenced rural area, they may be able to approach from a different direction if trees/water don't block them. Obviously this will be highly dependent on the actual land you have, not too much you can do except fence your whole property and put up barriers (next section). If the property has a back entrance, or a clear path coming off a road other than your driveway, consider putting up a reinforced gate with a strong lock, so you don't have to worry about it.

When you're choosing land, keep approaches in mind, and consider ways to block off or slow down alternative approaches. Once you have your property, don't clear it around the perimeter. Clear land is needed for some things, but it's also easy for enemies to traverse. Keep it closer to your house, within firing sight lines and covered by cameras.

What you really want is to deny them use of a car close to your house, because cars let them approach and retreat quicker than you may be able to respond. Force them to either use the 1 known and guarded approach (your driveway), or to approach on foot (covered by cameras).

Spoiler: bog's barricades

Barriers are also dependent on your specific land. The best ones have the convenience vs security tradeoff you're already familiar with from website cybersecurity decisions. The obvious one is gates on your driveway: a nuisance to wait for them to open, but critical for slowing down anyone coming to your place, and denying them use of a car on your property.

Also important is a fence around your property. It's a psychological barrier to car drivers, even if their car is actually big enough to roll over a fence. For people on foot, it slows them down and forces them to breach your property, legally triggering a crime that you are justified in repelling. It also lets you capture them on camera while they are dealing with the fence.

Depending on the terrain, especially if it's not wooded enough to stop cars from approaching from multiple angles, you may want to dig a simple 2 foot ditch around your entire property perimeter. That's big enough to catch most vehicle tires, and a few shoes if intruders are moving fast.

Barriers on your home are also important, but that's very highly dependent on what it is. Doors should be upgraded, and maybe the doorframe too. Strong wire mesh could go over windows, to make it awkward to smash glass and throw or point something inside. Upgraded door locks are a given. Any electric/cable lines going into the place should be buried, at least out to the treeline, so that they can't be snipped immediately on approach.

All that being said, if you do get attacked, you SHOULD NOT be waiting in your house for them. A manufactured home in a swamp should NOT be planning to endure a siege. The whole point of building up all of the above is to give you warning when they come, so you can bail out of your house armed, go where they don't expect, and either wait for them to leave or ambush them legally.

I'll leave the weapon recommendations to others, but I'll say this: it almost doesn't matter, as long as you get the drop on them. If they are facing a house expecting you to be in there, and you attack them from the side, their lvl 4 plates aren't going to matter much.

 

[gampboonerisms]

Reinforced doors, bars over windows, and maybe some estrogen left conspicuously out under a net.

Figure out concealed/constitutional carry if you ever plan to leave your swamp.

Door? No no no. Door FRAMES is where its at. Why try to take a door down when you can hit the frame and break everything in one hit? Bars over windows also mean reinforcing the window frames. If I had the money I would put random steel bars so nobody could ram a car into my house. Hmmm.... Maybe some bollards around the house to be safe.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

Booby-traps are criminal.

All memes aside, how much do you care about killing the attackers in a legally defensible way? Depending on the jurisdiction, there are a lot of things you can't do and be confident you'll walk free, even when shooting an intruder on your property

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Organic barriers like bramble bushes(fuck them so much), random holes(shallow or otherwise) in the ground in tall grass, hedges, all that is great.
Positive relations with neighbors, however far, and authorities is the best because they will keep an eye out for strange vehicles.
Improvised tank traps/hedgehogs along the property line towards the road would be great as well.

 

[Null]

All memes aside, how much do you care about killing the attackers in a legally defensible way? Depending on the jurisdiction, there are a lot of things you can't do and be confident you'll walk free, even when shooting an intruder on your property

Apply Florida law.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Apply Florida law.

I'm not familiar with Florida's law, but a quick search turned up some interesting bits.

1) FL goes beyond castle doctrine, and now has Stand Your Ground defense. Basically you are allowed to use deadly force anywhere on your property, if you reasonably think intruders mean "great bodily harm" to you. This includes attacking your home itself, or a car you're in.

The Stand Your Ground law imposes two presumptions in a criminal case. First, a person is presumed to have a reasonable fear that deadly force was necessary to protect themself or another if someone unlawfully entered their home or vehicle. Second, a person who unlawfully or by force enters the dwelling of another is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act using violence or the threat of violence.​

2) There's specific laws on the books about hidden home security cams. Basically, you shouldn't install them to intrude on other's privacy, like pointing it directly at a neighbor's property. And if the cameras aren't visible (which I would recommend, since I think you should focus on the element of surprise), you are required to post warnings that cameras are in use.

In Florida, it is also important to provide notice of the presence of security cameras. If the cameras are not immediately obvious, it is advisable to post clear signage indicating that the property is under video surveillance. It ensures that anyone entering the property is aware they might be recorded.​

Combined, you're pretty well covered to defend anything happening on your private land. For legal reasons, it would be best to visibly post No Trespassing and Cameras In Use signs on all sides. You'd have to be a bit careful in public areas, including the road leading to your property, but Stand Your Ground covers you against attacks off your property.

IANAL, this is not legal advice, etc.

 

[Cat tit bingo]

Hang plenty of "beware large drooling dogs" signs even if you dont have one. When inside your home put obstacles in your doorway like a chair, logs, and micro machines since most commercial locks are easily bypassed. Might as well cover your windows since your probably not allowed to preemptively shoot people though them for being on your property. Get really bright motion activated lights, if some fag tries to use night vision goggles they'll be blinded.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

Apply Florida law.

I'm no lawyer, but here goes:

Make sure signs are posted and clearly visible at the boundaries of your property.

Stand your ground applies. You have no duty to retreat.

Castle doctrine applies. Intruders to your home or vehicle are almost certainly fair game.

You must have "reasonable belief" that you or someone else is in imminent danger, or that the commission of a felony is in progress. This rules out automated defenses / traps of all kinds, since the trap can't make that distinction.

Your use of force needs to be "proportional" to the perceived threat. What's proportional could vary drastically depending on who's considering it, might be worth looking into case law.

I read a couple of things but here's a citation.

https://davidmlamos.com/navigating-self-defense-laws-in-florida-understanding-when-you-can-use-force/

Also, the feds are potentially an issue. Using an NFA item (suppressor, SBR, machine gun) in the commission of a crime is a federal crime that carries potentially nasty punishments. If the feds can find some way to frame an aspect of what you did as "a crime", and you used an NFA item defending yourself, they can bring federal charges. With the ATF and FBI the way they are right now, that could get ugly. Personally I think the advantages of a suppressor are still significant enough to consider using one despite this risk, but it's up to you.

 

[CoolGuy1990]

my submission for anti vehicle weapon

 

[Cat tit bingo]

I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians once broke into my house. "What the devil?" I said As I grabbed my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. I blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, i missed him entirely because it's smoothbore and it nails the neighbors dog. I had to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fixed bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

 

[National Defense Advocate]

Realistically?
First off, get a dog. They're great companions and amazing early warning systems.
The pupper may become a casualty, troons are extremely evil and would probably try to hurt it.

Second, frag grenades are illegal in Florida I think, so try to get ahold of smoke grenades. Toss them into the path of the tranny advance once they breach the house. The visual degradation combined with suppressive fire from deeper inside your home would give pause to even a determined infantry assault.

Third, Suppressive fire. Find a good vantage point overlooking the road. This is assuming the trannies don't approach tactically and just march up your driveway.
Open up on em with as much firepower as possible, the fire doesn't have to be accurate to achieve the desired effect.

Fourth, learn combat first aid. This may be the most important part.
Buy a few tourniquets, chest seals and hemostatic dressings. Those are for you, if you get hit.
ALL gunshot wounds are dangerous, it doesn't matter where you get hit.

Lastly, I wouldn't put much stock in that trannies "military training", military tactics rely on coordination, equipment and other trained personnel he just doesn't have.
Is there a tranny recon element? A tranny Machine gun team? A tranny medivac for wounded trannies? Tranny NCOs to make sure the younger troons don't lose confidence and run?

No, and that's not even touching on the fact that the troon was almost certainly a fucking POG desk jockey. POGs barely get anything in the way of combat training.

 

[Zjierb]

Might be kind of beating a dead horse, but in a situation like this firepower is almost irrelevant. Finding weapons that are easy to maneuver, effective, and that you're well trained with would be the best starting point. Ammo capacity is also something I would really focus on, obviously within reason. For handguns, you don't want a .22lr with 50 rounds but a .50AE with 7 is just as impractical. You'll likely be in tight quarters (manufactured home and all) so a shorter rifle/shotgun would be ideal. No specific recommendations there for caliber, just find a middle-ground for what you feel confident using. Personally I use 9mm for my immediate home defense, .308 for everything else.

I'd personally be less worried about penetrating armor. If you slap your target hard enough, armored or not, they'll likely back down. People who are well trained have a hard time overcoming mid-caliber weapons hitting their armor, so I'll assume your average troon wouldn't be able to take it well. I'd expect IIIA armor instead of IV just mostly for availability. There are a number of small, fast, and effective rounds that hit IIIA way harder than you'd expect, for example 5.7x28. There are videos showing the comparative damage from 5.7 to something like 9mm and it tends to edge out, mostly due to speed. You're still not getting through the plate with that, but it'll knock the hell out of whoever gets hit. A benefit is that your average 5.7 holds 20+ rounds in a magazine and they're extremely light and compact, so you can have plenty of ammo on standby if needed.

I absolutely agree that the awareness piece is way more important. Security cameras with floodlights, privacy fencing, reinforced doors, etc. I would also highly recommend an emergency egress point in the event that they try to either hold you under siege or light your home on fire. For a manufactured home that may be a bit of a shitshow, but if you can drop under the floor under your bed and crawl under the siding that'd be the most practical, I would think.

Another major concern, especially with the thin walls of a manufactured home, would be the troons just opening fire blindly through your walls. It's highly likely that your average round could zip right through, so I'd recommend somehow reinforcing your walls somehow. I'd personally go with something simple, like concrete pavers. You could go so far as removing your drywall, inserting a stack of pavers/concrete/etc, and re-drywalling, but it'd be much easier to just stack cinderblocks or something similar inside. That'd majorly impact your livability, but that's more an idea for a safe-room as opposed to your entire residence.

I saw a few others recommending getting bushes and other plants - I'd really only recommend that if you can get living ones that are at a mature size, but having that supplement your fence would be a good idea. Rosebushes around your property would be a massive deterrent since they're difficult to pass through, but they're admittedly small so you'd need a ton of them for anything meaningful.

To the point of drones, something that can launch a net or something similar is an excellent option. There are some designs I've seen around (but haven't tested) for 37mm launchers. You can 3D print one, load your own rounds, and have plenty on standby. This would also be relatively effective against people, but I wouldn't rely on it.

As a bottom line, I think that immediate defense and egress are two of your most important focuses given the circumstances. While it'd be extremely vindicating to take out as many of the bastards as you can, but you should be realistic on the likelihood of winning a 1 vs 20 firefight, especially when ambushed. Be careful, godspeed, and train you glorious bastard.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

for example 5.7x28. There are videos showing the comparative damage from 5.7 to something like 9mm and it tends to edge out, mostly due to speed.

Null's favorite pistol caliber wins again