Team Four Star - Creators of a bunch of stuff to make people laugh trying to figure out what to do after a decade of comedically retelling Dragon Ball Z.

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how much do they make on twitch from donations. has to be a ton of fanboys paying out the ass.
plus whatever they make on patreon. who knows, they might make enough from a couple hundred to a few thousand whales.
merchandise sales, mothly payments for exlcusive discord servers that give you a more direct line to the main TFS guys.
Lani is probabaly making thousands a day quoting lines in vegeta voice on twitch.
If phil can whale out 100k a year from twitch alone. these guys are probably pulling at least half a mil a year, at least.
maybe they make so much now, they see no need to actually produce anything.
Look, I can't say for sure how accurate these numbers are, but the stats site here has them on a downward spiral of average viewers. They're currently sitting at ~124 viewers per stream. I can't find any stats for bits or donations, but with only 124 people watching, they either have a couple whales, or fuck all.

Streaming is not viable.
IIRC, Lani literally had a now deleted video about him seething & crying like a bitch on YT when Trump won.
Yes he did, and the world is worse off for it not being archived.
 
124 viewers per stream. I can't find any stats for bits or donations, but with only 124 people watching, they either have a couple whales, or fuck all.
thats way fucking less than i thought.
even phil has more viewers though a lot of them are trolls. whats going on that they spiraled so far down?
you'd think they'd be making a ton and milking their diehard fanboys every step of the way.
Kaisers usual excuse was that he spent all his time editing. whats he doing now, taking it up the ass all day long?
and Lani has been divorced for a while, hell, he lost weight and got in shape and he still couldn't keep a wife.

if you look at their patreon, they seem to not care anymore.
they have a video on their that's straight up unavailable. that makes them look like they just dont give a shit.
without TFS what other shit will they do?
Masakox does his what if DBZ videos milking the dragonball fans.
i think the android 18 voice and a few other do their own thing, but lani and kaiser and the other one seem like they have nothing else to fall back on.
 
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Kaisers usual excuse was that he spent all his time editing. whats he doing now, taking it up the ass all day long?
and Lani has been divorced for a while, hell, he lost weight and got in shape and he still couldn't keep a wife.
Good question since most of the streams are hosted by Kirran and Grant by the looks of it.
 
Then they started getting lofty ideas that they could tell the story better in the Cell Saga. They got up their own arses due to their egos.
toriyama isn't that great a writer. he's an artist first and a writer second. someone probably could write it better, or at his level.

I get that American copyright laws are especially draconian but even then, it's pretty obvious that a lot of these videos are meant as parody and in most cases, the people making them are pretty much doing it for free.
look up devilartemis. he does his own 3d animation so he's in the clear.
 
They're currently sitting at ~124 viewers per stream. I can't find any stats for bits or donations, but with only 124 people watching, they either have a couple whales, or fuck all.
Even a low hundred or so can be above breaking even/turning profit on Twitch now. Like you said, the odd whale or random gift subs and whatnot go a long way.
 
oh man now i'm remembering Takahata101 had to make a separate 'political' twitter account because every other tweet he made was about Trump and republicans. It was at the point where it was like Trump hurt him personally... Like dude, you're not even American lol.
 
Even a low hundred or so can be above breaking even/turning profit on Twitch now. Like you said, the odd whale or random gift subs and whatnot go a long way.
maybe, but these guys bought a small bulding to do their work in. they have to pay the rent on that place, plus utilitites and other bills. plus their own salaries i'd assume. i doubt the editors and shit are paid by the hour. so either they were laid off or continue to get paid.
i dont think they're raking it in, but they have to be making enough to pay all that and then some because if they were that close to the red, they'd be grifting really hard right now.
Is TFS a sole proprietarship, company or LLC?
 
oh man now i'm remembering Takahata101 had to make a separate 'political' twitter account because every other tweet he made was about Trump and republicans. It was at the point where it was like Trump hurt him personally... Like dude, you're not even American lol.
It was one of those things I recall, people who resided in Western Europe were really freaking out over Trump victory, some having this mentality off "Bu-But 'Muricas choices affects the rest of the world!" and really, the only thing that gets affected is what country 'Murica decides to shove its Freedom cock into.

maybe, but these guys bought a small bulding to do their work in. they have to pay the rent on that place, plus utilitites and other bills. plus their own salaries i'd assume. i doubt the editors and shit are paid by the hour. so either they were laid off or continue to get paid.
i dont think they're raking it in, but they have to be making enough to pay all that and then some because if they were that close to the red, they'd be grifting really hard right now.
Is TFS a sole proprietarship, company or LLC?
They probably are making some money from say merch sales, I dunno how well those are going for them. But prob enough to keep 'em afloat, plus I believe some of these guys are doing their own twitch streams separate from TFS.
 
I did some digging and found an blogpost by the ex-CEO of TeamFourStar, Ben Creighton. i archived it.
with what we can assume, he seems to have gotten frustrated with the autistic attention to detail taken into the production of DBZA.
I'm guessing he's alluding to Kaisernekos snails pace editing.
they created a company so they can concentrate their efforts and what do they have to show for it? two shows one that's slower than John K can put shit out.
 
Look, I can't say for sure how accurate these numbers are, but the stats site here has them on a downward spiral of average viewers. They're currently sitting at ~124 viewers per stream. I can't find any stats for bits or donations, but with only 124 people watching, they either have a couple whales, or fuck all.

Streaming is not viable.

Yes he did, and the world is worse off for it not being archived.
I swear I still sometimes roam the internet for a mirror or some copy of that video. I have hope it's somewhere out there.
oh man now i'm remembering Takahata101 had to make a separate 'political' twitter account because every other tweet he made was about Trump and republicans. It was at the point where it was like Trump hurt him personally... Like dude, you're not even American lol.
Fun Fact: Takahata is on record supporting Gamergate line change in Funimation's Prison School Dub.

OG Posts:
1: https://twitter.com/Takahata101/status/647088747285090304?s=19
2: https://twitter.com/Takahata101/status/647088887546843136?s=19

Archives:
1: http://archive.md/cxzKM
2: http://archive.md/oKMOK
 
Of course he is.... part of me wants to believe this is only to look good in front of the big funimation va's... But then I remember that a lot of tfs members are all smug and are up their own arse. That second tweet too 'PLEASE REMEMBER I LOVE YOU' that's so cringe.
 
Let's be real, the Buu saga would've been Super Sentai references, gay Dende acting like a spurned lover due to Videl, Vegeta acting like an even bigger prick, inside jokes complaining about Gohan's uselessness, and probably Steven Universe fusion jokes/references. Oh, and also Goku accidently making some gay innuendo regarding his fusion with Vegeta.
I think you got all of them. Well, except for Goku being a bad father because that's eternal. Thanks, Goten and Uub.
It was one of those things I recall, people who resided in Western Europe were really freaking out over Trump victory, some having this mentality off "Bu-But 'Muricas choices affects the rest of the world!" and really, the only thing that gets affected is what country 'Murica decides to shove its Freedom cock into.
And then apparently you got people supporting America being like Western Europe, like having a federalized police force or pointing out Denmark being the happiest country in the world.
 
toriyama isn't that great a writer. he's an artist first and a writer second. someone probably could write it better, or at his level.
Nah, Toriyama is legitimately a really good writer, too, but people keep expecting things from Dragon Ball that he's never going to provide.
Sure, his talents as an artist are definitely his strongest point, but Dragon Ball's unique blend of serious action and comedy is something very few writers can replicate.
It's also very well paced for most of its run, and never gets dull, with a strong, vibrant cast that stands out even now, in a story that throws in enough twists and new concepts that keep things fresh for a long time.
It's not a complex or deep story, but it absolutely accomplishes what it sets out to do, and Toriyama deserves to be credited for his writing skills as much as he does for his amazing art, especially given how much he wrote by the seat of his pants. Some of the arcs are definitely worse than the others, such as the Cell arc, but that's unavoidable.

Whenever someone acts like they can do better than Toriyama, it's clear that they don't actually get what made Dragon Ball work so well and inspire so many other artists. They almost always try to make something super serious out of it, and fail to understand that Dragon Ball was never intended to be anything other than a gag-based adventure manga that turned into a straightforward battle shonen. It's not that deep and it really doesn't need to be.
 
The man wrote one of the, if not the, most recognizable and beloved manga in the world.
creating something popular doesnt equal good necessarily. thats like if is said garfield is one of the best comics in the world.
i think it was the drawings that gave Dragonball its charm. i doubt the man could write a book, or the story would be any good without the drawings to enhance them.
not that i'm knocking toriyama, he's essentially the japanese equivilant of a good comic book writer.
think campy DC comics
people try to channel alan moore when they make fan dragonball projects instead of the campy fun dragonball writing and thats where they fail.
Though serious dragonball can be done well, remember the future trunks movie and the first bardock? toriyama never wrote those.
TFS stopped being a comedy by the end and thats sort of where it all fell apart. they tried to create a dub instead of a spoof.
they took it so serious, individual episodes were taking 8 months to put out. they sniffed their own farts so much it would have fallen apart in the buu saga.
 
Of course he is.... part of me wants to believe this is only to look good in front of the big funimation va's... But then I remember that a lot of tfs members are all smug and are up their own arse. That second tweet too 'PLEASE REMEMBER I LOVE YOU' that's so cringe.
I don't know why they think they'll all make it big only lani and takahata have any real acting chops to begin with
 
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