It has gotten to this point? It's just like when moral tight-asses were mad at Doom and DnD despite both making you kill demons, not worship them, because just depicting demons makes the thing satanic or something.
I’d say it’s something bigger. Not sure when it started, but a lot of creators think that if you give a protagonist certain views, you as the creator endorse them. It’s been a thing in fiction for a while now.
Yep, and if your parents kept a Bible on your shelf all your childhood it must mean there was something there that made you a murderer, right?
People with no sense of humor or imagination. They used to gravitate towards organized religion before SJWism became popular.
My bad I misremembered it was the Emerald Nuzlocke. They were wiped by the flying gym leader and in order to make a more "engaging story" and not "disappoint the fans," they decided to pretend it didn't happen and uploaded the 2nd try instead.
Speculating on how a remade season 1 would be:
Ahh, I quit some time between Soul Silver where I finished it, and Moon where I put it off and then got driven off by their behavior on social media. Was the episode near the end of their playthrough? I would forgive them somewhat for choosing to cheat to finish the game at the end. How much time and effort by the fans it took to get them to admit the truth vs them just being transparent about it would impact how trustworthy their later runs are. If the wipe hit early on or midway, though, that's just defeating the point of a Nuzlocke and they should have restarted. Otherwise, they might as well just tweak their rules (since they already had 'home game' rules about what they could catch and what healing items they could use) that meant a party wipe doesn't equate a game over, just a literal party wipe where they have to completely replace their entire team after the battle and try again.
In the past I think they would have made it decent. I imagine:
The gym they lost at was the 6th one, so they were a bit above 60% done the game.
Yeah that's definitely the least acceptable time to cheat. The beginning or the end there's an argument for why it's probably better to allow a retry, but losing halfway through is kind of the point of a Nuzlocke. It's also not unrecoverable if you just reset your team at that point, as it's not the end of the game where grinding up a new team would be obnoxiously unbearable. That said, if they were smart and honest creators, they'd at least add in a new rule like what I mentioned last post to avoid people wondering if they'd cheat like that in the future. (Another option is to force a knock-out to reload from the last save, but the obvious issue with that is them throwing a fight to avoid losing a pokemon.)
Answer numero uno, the cheat happened about the time they released episode 35 out of 73, a little under halfway thru their run.
I personally don't mind Nuzlockes with story. The original name comes from the fact that the first challenge had a comic attached to it with its own story (A Nuzleaf with the face of Locke from LOST - the name of the challenge was "Pokemon: Hardmode" but people started calling it Nuzlocke because of the weird pokemon...which I think may have just been a weird ghost/hallucination even in the comic). Nuzlockes lend themselves to stories because the whole point is to 'get extra attached to the pokemon you end up with, and have no choice about which ones they are'. That said, I agree that they take it too far. Even in their Fire Red playthrough they did things like purposefully not attack a pokemon for several turns just to kill off one of their pokemon for lore purposes or whatever. But as stated, they do that with all their games. It's kind of their thing. It's why I preferred when the grinding was on-screen. They couldn't just bs up lore for 4 hours and so it was just a bunch of nerds talking while they played a game for a while instead. I believe it was in Soul Silver - or late in Fire Red - when they decided to cut out that and present edited videos instead, and that's when they had that annoying Ivan Ooze and Samara stuff (their not understanding how the game works and freaking out when they couldn't delete Samara was amusing, all the same), as well as - I think - more time wasted on character lore for Tantor than Lakigr.
Probably some jokes about Yamacha is useless,
Which would be a shame, since the only 'good' part of that joke is that Yamcha is super hyped up in the series right until he's killed by the Saibamen. If anything, they'd do well to spend more time hyping him up pre-Saibamen attack.
honestly, i could see a reference to Masakos raditz fan fic.
That is straight-up not a fair comparison since Nick Franco is an actual factual writer in his own right and the TFS gaming crew are at best, part-time voice actors/content creators/whateverthefuck that think "travel back in time to prevent the wipe," is a good writing excuse for why they should cheat in a challenge. One wants to create a dramatic retelling his Nuzlocke experience to the best of his ability, and the others are workers in an improv content mill churning constant quantity over quality.
I don't disagree, I was just clarifying that Nuzlockes having stories aren't cringe in of themselves, since it's kind of expected at this point for any broadcast Nuzlocke to have something or another. TFS have always been pretty mediocre at improv, and much better at pre-scripted things. I guess they could have pre-scripted their Nuzlockes to help with that, but then they'd only release one episode every eight months. It's beating a dead horse, but their 5+ hour streams were better partly because they couldn't focus on building nonsense lore and just ended up using whatever happened, as a true Nuzlocke story should.
It's the idea of having to do it that fucks so many people up. Take your first job for example: almost no one has pleasant memories or feelings. It wasn't what you wanted, really needed long-term, or beneficial towards society, but you still had to do it for various reasons. A lot of things are fun hobbies because you can do them whenever you want to. Having to for prolong periods like streaming and walkthrough stuff will burn you out. We've got boomers working jobs and going back to school because they're bored that have great times doing what anyone younger would hate. A cousin of mine brought up streaming once, but we came to the same conclusion instantly. All of that sounds fun as an occasional one-off thing. Doing it for the rest of your life or decades is an ironic hell.