Tech you miss/ new tech trends you hate - ok boomers

[The Last Stand]

PS3 also had this but there weren't many games that allowed it.

I don't think it did. I couldn't find it. I believe only on the XMB.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

I don't think it did. I couldn't find it. I believe only on the XMB.

Games with it usually said it was supported on the box. Here's the back of Vanquish.

Maybe I'm confusing this feature with something else.

 

[The Last Stand]

Games with it usually said it was supported on the box. Here's the back of Vanquish.
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Maybe I'm confusing this feature with something else.

Here are a list of PS3 games that supported this feature. The 360 was easier; you would be able to rip and access your songs on the Xbox Guide. I don't know why this wasn't pushed.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

I don't think it did. I couldn't find it. I believe only on the XMB.

Metal Gear Solid 4 won't run unless you do it.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

What the fuck? That's lunacy.

Buy an mp3 player with blu-tooth and blu tooth to the car stereo, or fit a better stereo. I've not heard of a car stopping you from browsing music while in motion. How does it even know the car is driving? I would snippedy snipping a few wires at the back.

Someone I know has a 2016 Toyota that won't let you mess with the presets while driving. You can change the station, but if you try to save it you get "that feature is not available while the vehicle is in motion."

 

[teriyakiburns]

Someone I know has a 2016 Toyota that won't let you mess with the presets while driving. You can change the station, but if you try to save it you get "that feature is not available while the vehicle is in motion."

Shit like this is why I hate new cars. Supposedly it's about improving driver safety by preventing distraction, but that excuse falls a bit flat when so many of the "driving aids" they've added actually reduce driver concentration. Automatic lane-keeping and auto-braking, and things of that nature, lull drivers into a false sense of security and allow their attention to wander from the road. This is before we get to dumb shit like tesla's autopilot. My driving safety is reduced by a bunch of retards who are letting the car "drive" for them, while they stare out of the front into a distant nothing.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Here are a list of PS3 games that supported this feature. The 360 was easier; you would be able to rip and access your songs on the Xbox Guide. I don't know why this wasn't pushed.

It was pushed! Heavily! It was one of the things about the 360, custom soundtracks!

Another thing that people forget is the Xbox Live voice modulation that they also pushed, so someone could mask the voice of actually being a 13 year old boy or VelocityGirl.

 

[The Last Stand]

Another thing that people forget is the Xbox Live voice modulation that they also pushed, so someone could mask the voice of actually being a 13 year old boy or VelocityGirl.

Oh, I remember that!

As cheesy as that video is NOW, it's quite accurate. Have a problem with a player? Mute them. Why can't people do that now instead of making articles about trash talking and abuse? Games were simpler back then.

I think PS3 had a voice change filter as well.

 

[ks99]

I miss CD players in cars. The few times I borrow a relative's car or rent one, instead of driving my own, this huge velcro-case of burned CDs goes to waste.

Even though I could upload all those songs into a larger storage unit, and it may even be more convenient, there is just something so satisfying hearing the clicks and whirs of a CD, inserting, ejecting, or shifting between tracks.

Can't you just swap out the iPad bullshit for a standard DIN stereo? I wouldn't know since I've only ever driven cars that have CD players and no touchfaggotry.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

As cheesy as that video is NOW, it's quite accurate. Have a problem with a player? Mute them.

What if you're not a 13 year old boy or a dweeby geek but a strong grrl and want everyone to know it? Drop the feature.

That was how I saw it, at least, it looked like a feature built against personal harassment.

 

[ks99]

You know what they should bring back? The ability so set autoplay video to off in the Chrome settings. What a stupid thing to remove.

I think I know what happened here. They implemented the auto-play block in the most retarded way possible: instead of it being a permission system that you could have blanket rules and exceptions for like damn near everything else (cookies, notifications, mic and webcam access, etc), it was instead based arbitrarily on how much you interacted with the site. Go to CNN and scroll down? Oh shit, clearly you want that unrelated video they've got queued up to blare in the background as you're reading!
Go to a webpage that's supposed to have background music without controls? Well, you haven't been here before, and you haven't clicked on anything (because there's nothing to click on), so BLOCKED!
Needless to say, the bitching was incessant. I didn't think it would ever change, but it did and I guess I never noticed until now.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

They're supposed to be adding the ability to block autoplay on the mobile version of brave somewhat soon I've been following the GitHub discussion on it. That's about as close as you're ever going to get to a chrome with the ability to stop autoplay videos from raping your mobile data plan.

 

[Toolbox]

Can't you just swap out the iPad bullshit for a standard DIN stereo? I wouldn't know since I've only ever driven cars that have CD players and no touchfaggotry.

As far as I can tell the disc reader standards have been abandoned. Most likely many brands have proprietary bs and nothing else now.

 

[AnOminous]

As far as I can tell the disc reader standards have been abandoned. Most likely many brands have proprietary bs and nothing else now.

If it has a 3.5mm audio in you can plug anything you feel like into it, the problem is the awkwardness of having to deal with an external device that also probably needs to be powered itself. There are CD players that buffer audio for use in motion, though.

Also if it has Bluetooth it can play anything that can connect to it that way.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Go to CNN and scroll down? Oh shit, clearly you want that unrelated video they've got queued up to blare in the background as you're reading!

My conspiracy theory is that places like CNN does that to drive video views. They often let you mute the video at least, then it plays as a thumbnail in the corner and at least on Forbes it keeps autoplaying 40-50 second videos from a playlist. If I pause the video, then at some point scroll up, there's a good chance that it will start playing again. It becomes a war of attrition until I just let the thumbnail play in the corner and after I've spent 15 minutes reading one article I have also viewed 20 videos. Technically that makes me a big fan of Mainstream Media video content.

There has to be a reason for this absolute bullshit behavior and I think my conspiracy theory is at least partially correct.

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

My conspiracy theory is that places like CNN does that to drive video views. They often let you mute the video at least, then it plays as a thumbnail in the corner and at least on Forbes it keeps autoplaying 40-50 second videos from a playlist. If I pause the video, then at some point scroll up, there's a good chance that it will start playing again. It becomes a war of attrition until I just let the thumbnail play in the corner and after I've spent 15 minutes reading one article I have also viewed 20 videos. Technically that makes me a big fan of Mainstream Media video content.

There has to be a reason for this absolute bullshit behavior and I think my conspiracy theory is at least partially correct.

This isn't a conspiracy. When a new season of Star Trek Discovery or Picard came out Viacom paid to have the season trailers to be ads in various social media platforms. This led to the videos having over a million views each but barely more than 5,000 likes.

 

[Never Scored]

My conspiracy theory is that places like CNN does that to drive video views. They often let you mute the video at least, then it plays as a thumbnail in the corner and at least on Forbes it keeps autoplaying 40-50 second videos from a playlist. If I pause the video, then at some point scroll up, there's a good chance that it will start playing again. It becomes a war of attrition until I just let the thumbnail play in the corner and after I've spent 15 minutes reading one article I have also viewed 20 videos. Technically that makes me a big fan of Mainstream Media video content.

There has to be a reason for this absolute bullshit behavior and I think my conspiracy theory is at least partially correct.

I only read news sites with javascript disabled nowadays. Most of them still work perfectly fine, and the subscription nag screens, videos and all that shit are disabled because they rely on JS.

 

[AmpleApricots]

There is this annoying trend to view old = good in all cases in the tech world, you see this on /g/ where there have been some threads waxing nostalgia about trackball mice that you to clean hair and/or dust out from every few weeks and slowly turned to shit even after cleanings. Take it from a KF old, they were garbage, don't listen to tech hipsters if they try to meme them as better.

Yeah I know. I also like to wax nostalgic often but a lot of that old stuff was garbage, quite frankly. Especially e.g. 90s PCs were this weird combination of bleeding edge tech and incredibly cheap implementation. If you have lived in that time you have heard a lot of jokes how Win9x always crashes. While software and OS were to blame too, you also had a lot of this instability because of frankly, hardware problems. From just plain poorly designed ICs to bus problems, mainboard layout problems etc.. There was a lot wrong with those old machines sometimes. My modern computer is amazing and can do things easily in seconds I frankly at least for a while didn't think the average joe on a non-government budget could ever do at home. As much as I enjoy the simple nature of that old tech sometimes, I wouldn't wanna go back full time ever. Lets just say having to search for floppies again would get old very quickly. Doesn't mean I have any issues with new tech. I'm actually quite annoyed at some choices and the opaque complexity in itself really bothers me sometimes. Still, it's a net plus for me.

There are some wrong turns this newer tech takes sometimes though but people forget about subtlety and middle ways. Modern optical mice are clearly more useful and superior to trackball mice. (and please, that's just my opinion, don't quote this and start a holy war because I literally don't care enough) Even (chronologically) newer laser mice with 3 trillion DPI, 32 buttons and needing an active internet connection to even work are garbage nobody needs. Both statements can be true at the same time.

I have the theory that people who blanket state all old tech was better are too young to have lived with that technology every day to experience it in every day situations and only know it through the "antique" consumer angle that's pushed so hard by youtubers and such. Either that, or they are old enough and just were disinterested in computers and technology when that stuff was still new.

I only read news sites with javascript disabled nowadays. Most of them still work perfectly fine, and the subscription nag screens, videos and all that shit are disabled because they rely on JS.

JS and it's consequences where a disaster for the human race. All I want from the web is to show me text and show me multimedia. (videos/sound/pictures) If we wanna get extra fancy ok, let me enter text sometimes. How these basic demands turned into the mess we have today is anyone guess but I personally blame that too much idiots are in that industry.

Coincidentally it's also the only industry where gatekeeping is something that's seen as something negative, 100% of the time. If you need to fly somewhere, do you want the pilot who breaths and eats flying, did it since he was 15 and has a natural talent for it or do you want the guy who flunked flight school several times and just barely got all his licenses, suffers from anxiety every time he hears a plane engine and has a "safety track record"? Same for doctors, accountants, chefs etc.. you'll always want the good guy and that's ok and nobody would blame you for it. Yet, in this tech sector the trans disabled black woman who suffers from PTSD and depression is seen with the same or even more value than the white guy who just likes to code and honestly, we see the results of that. IT touches so many things in the modern world and is incredibly influential in how this world works. People would be surprised how huge industies sometimes hinge on the work on a handful of programmers working on some open source library somewhere. Yet gatekeeping to keep the idiots out is somehow frowned upon. Then people are surprised everything's a mess.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

There are some wrong turns this newer tech takes sometimes though but people forget about subtlety and middle ways. Modern optical mice are clearly more useful and superior to trackball mice.

Yeah, that is a good way of describing it, mice are an area where what we have now is clearly superior. My only complaint about mice is that they aren't always easy to take apart and repair (you almost have to break them due to the way the plastic tabs fit, but this was also true of 'vintage' mice). Where I think tech did make a wrong turn was with keyboards. Keyboards started using membrane, and at about the same time started to feel cheaper in general. I remember when I was a kid, the keyboard for an Apple IIe (though built into the system) was indestructible. IBM Type Ms and similar keyboards are about the same. As long as they keys aren't damaged or the cord frayed, you can clean those things out and they are ready to go. But I cannot tell you how many modern keyboards I have thrown out over the years. It has to be well over 10. Even modern mechanicals don't last, what usually happens to me is one of the keys will start to get loose (this has happened with the arrow keys especially) and I can literally bump it off with a brush of my hand.

On places like /g/ I seem them waxing over old cases and the god awful off white color. There is a reason that stopped being used - the abs plastic used a flame retardant that caused them to yellow. Look at old computer parts on ebay, and you will see a ton that are a disgusting yellow. The Super Nintendo's first model had the same problem. It's possible to remove it, but it can be a pain, and it's easier to just not make them in that color anymore. The same cases were usually not meant to be taken apart either (I can remember alot of computer places had a tab or sticker over the sides that if you removed it, you voided the warranty), and inside they were death traps for your hands - razor sharp metal. It's a clear advantage that cases now are alot easier on the hands.

I didn't want tech to stay in the past, but it would have been nice if things like keyboards stayed on the same general path. IBM model m's with new colors and modern features like volume controls and hotkeys, but the same tank feel to them.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

Yeah I know. I also like to wax nostalgic often but a lot of that old stuff was garbage, quite frankly. Especially e.g. 90s PCs were this weird combination of bleeding edge tech and incredibly cheap implementation. If you have lived in that time you have heard a lot of jokes how Win9x always crashes. While software and OS were to blame too, you also had a lot of this instability because of frankly, hardware problems. From just plain poorly designed ICs to bus problems, mainboard layout problems etc.. There was a lot wrong with those old machines sometimes. My modern computer is amazing and can do things easily in seconds I frankly at least for a while didn't think the average joe on a non-government budget could ever do at home. As much as I enjoy the simple nature of that old tech sometimes, I wouldn't wanna go back full time ever. Lets just say having to search for floppies again would get old very quickly. Doesn't mean I have any issues with new tech. I'm actually quite annoyed at some choices and the opaque complexity in itself really bothers me sometimes. Still, it's a net plus for me.

There are some wrong turns this newer tech takes sometimes though but people forget about subtlety and middle ways. Modern optical mice are clearly more useful and superior to trackball mice. (and please, that's just my opinion, don't quote this and start a holy war because I literally don't care enough) Even (chronologically) newer laser mice with 3 trillion DPI, 32 buttons and needing an active internet connection to even work are garbage nobody needs. Both statements can be true at the same time.

I have the theory that people who blanket state all old tech was better are too young to have lived with that technology every day to experience it in every day situations and only know it through the "antique" consumer angle that's pushed so hard by youtubers and such. Either that, or they are old enough and just were disinterested in computers and technology when that stuff was still new.


JS and it's consequences where a disaster for the human race. All I want from the web is to show me text and show me multimedia. (videos/sound/pictures) If we wanna get extra fancy ok, let me enter text sometimes. How these basic demands turned into the mess we have today is anyone guess but I personally blame that too much idiots are in that industry.

Coincidentally it's also the only industry where gatekeeping is something that's seen as something negative, 100% of the time. If you need to fly somewhere, do you want the pilot who breaths and eats flying, did it since he was 15 and has a natural talent for it or do you want the guy who flunked flight school several times and just barely got all his licenses, suffers from anxiety every time he hears a plane engine and has a "safety track record"? Same for doctors, accountants, chefs etc.. you'll always want the good guy and that's ok and nobody would blame you for it. Yet, in this tech sector the trans disabled black woman who suffers from PTSD and depression is seen with the same or even more value than the white guy who just likes to code and honestly, we see the results of that. IT touches so many things in the modern world and is incredibly influential in how this world works. People would be surprised how huge industies sometimes hinge on the work on a handful of programmers working on some open source library somewhere. Yet gatekeeping to keep the idiots out is somehow frowned upon. Then people are surprised everything's a mess.

Nice thesis. But you have some good points.
Trackball mice sucked, so did gen 1-3 optical mice. HOWEVER, you can't admire the black lint that builds up on the internal rollers with optical mice.
However clean you think your house is - the mouse hides your filth and knows the truth.
Anyway
So what did we do with these incredible leaps forward in PC technology?
We forgot how to program, making mobile games that take up GIGABYTES for a side-scroller...

Spoiler: rant- don't click

We spam users night and day with ads, taking up enormous system resources to block, slightly less to allow.
We censor, silence, exile, and end careers. Failing that, we ddos.
We eliminated anonymity.
We distort reality, lying to ourselves and others with filters and deepfakes.
We saturate our society in porn and related hedonism, yet cannot reproduce.
We gamble on crypto, but cannot invest in the future.

Some tech is incredible. (SSDs, the new AI heuristics, multi-threading processors)
However, the price was high.