Tech you miss/ new tech trends you hate - ok boomers

[seri0us]

I'll open this post stating that my phone still runs android 7 and it's doing a fine job so far with what I need, and that a device that still works perfectly shouldn't be discarded.

I am being told by both IT and HR in the most condescending way to buy a new phone and being able to install Microsoft Authenticator (requires android 8.1), as of today it's mandatory to log into the work computers. I am refusing to do so on the principle of not using my own belongings for benefit of my employer, besides fuck programmed obsolescence.

Tell them to give you a work phone.

 

[Pepe Cortisona]

Tell them to give you a work phone.

I did, their answer is still that I should get a new phone and that the company can't spare a phone for work purposes. We had security tokens and those were deprecated for the app as it's more secure and cost effective. I'm suspecting it's a contract that they have with microsoft and that was one of their conditions.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I'll open this post stating that my phone still runs android 7 and it's doing a fine job so far with what I need, and that a device that still works perfectly shouldn't be discarded.

I am being told by both IT and HR in the most condescending way to buy a new phone and being able to install Microsoft Authenticator (requires android 8.1), as of today it's mandatory to log into the work computers. I am refusing to do so on the principle of not using my own belongings for benefit of my employer, besides fuck programmed obsolescence.

Students now have to use apps to authenticate in their online shit.

There's a push in banks, even bus rides.

It's either consoom or go live in an ever shrinking forest...

 

[DavidS877]

I did, their answer is still that I should get a new phone and that the company can't spare a phone for work purposes. We had security tokens and those were deprecated for the app as it's more secure and cost effective. I'm suspecting it's a contract that they have with microsoft and that was one of their conditions.

I've found, in most conditions, I can tell Microsoft to piss-off and give me a QR to use standard TOTP and then just load that into my favorite not-MS auth app. And can backup the keys.

 

[anustart76]

I'll open this post stating that my phone still runs android 7 and it's doing a fine job so far with what I need, and that a device that still works perfectly shouldn't be discarded.

I am being told by both IT and HR in the most condescending way to buy a new phone and being able to install Microsoft Authenticator (requires android 8.1), as of today it's mandatory to log into the work computers. I am refusing to do so on the principle of not using my own belongings for benefit of my employer, besides fuck programmed obsolescence.

I've found, in most conditions, I can tell Microsoft to piss-off and give me a QR to use standard TOTP and then just load that into my favorite not-MS auth app. And can backup the keys.

Yes, there's a way to do it, at least if you're rooted, assuming the specific setup of your IT department allows TOTP rather than notification-based auth. I used this years ago: https://github.com/puddly/android-otp-extractor

That said, I really despise the corporate BYOD bullshit. I don't want to give a company any kind of access to my personal device.

 

[DavidS877]

Yes, there's a way to do it, at least if you're rooted, assuming the specific setup of your IT department allows TOTP rather than notification-based auth. I used this years ago: https://github.com/puddly/android-otp-extractor

In my case I just click the button that says "Use a different authenticator app" when it says "Install MS Authenticator on your phone". now, of course it probably requires MS backend settings to allow it or at least not disable it. Obviously push based auth won't work.

The annoying thing is that it's now trying to do push auth to the Outlook app instead and I have to click yet another button on every login, "No push to Outlook, let me enter my TOTP."
Oh, wait, I was just able to delete that, let's see if it sticks and defaults to TOTP again.

 

[Never Scored]

I did, their answer is still that I should get a new phone and that the company can't spare a phone for work purposes. We had security tokens and those were deprecated for the app as it's more secure and cost effective. I'm suspecting it's a contract that they have with microsoft and that was one of their conditions.

Can you sideload it?

I just tested it out on my phone with Lineage OS and no Google Play Services installed and was able to get as far as the login screen. Allow browser to install third party apps -> Install F-Droid Store -> All that to install apps -> Install Aurora Store -> Allow that to install apps - > Install Authenticator.

Now, my phone is using a version of Lineage based on Android 13, so this will only work if it's specifically a Google Play Services thing and not some core functionality at the centre of the OS that wouldn't allow it to run.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Why the fuck does the mobile Microsoft Teams app need a 500+ MB update every couple days? There are instances where I need the app right fucking now and it’s queued up for a download. Of course it won’t download until it has WiFi so I have to repeatedly enable it to use cellular data. You figure telling it once is enough but nope. I find I generally have to shut down and start the phone up again to have the selected commands run right the first time. You just know most of it is bloated jeetcode that supposedly solves one issue and three more pop up.

Why does the teams mobile app suck ass even if you have full bars of both 5G cellular and 5Gbps wifi? Seriously, I usually dont have issues with send/recieve but it takes a million years for the messages or teams views to catch up with what's read or even that other conversations have happened on PC since I last pulled out my phone. Also takes forever to show status icons or put through a status message change

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Why does the teams mobile app suck ass even if you have full bars of both 5G cellular and 5Gbps wifi? Seriously, I usually dont have issues with send/recieve but it takes a million years for the messages or teams views to catch up with what's read or even that other conversations have happened on PC since I last pulled out my phone. Also takes forever to show status icons or put through a status message change

Because teams sucks ass, because Microsoft sucks ass.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Students now have to use apps to authenticate in their online shit.

When I was in college they sometimes used this website with a "digital dropbox" and online records of grades. Worst course was an all-online course that I missed assignments on, and even later forgot what the class was even about. But at least all that could be accessed from any web browser at the time, also using any OS.

How bad is it now?

 

[Thiletonomics]

Auto makers have started making door handles that are flushed against the door, meaning that you either push on one end of it and pull on the other to open the door, or the extend out when you unlock the car and then you pull to open them. Teslas are one notable example, since they were one of the first to utilize these types of door handles, and other auto makers copycatted that idea, just like Tesla's other stupid ideas such as putting most of your car's controls onto a GIANT touchscreen:



It's done to increase fuel economy/EV range by decreasing drag, but the gains are so minimal, that it's done just for the sake of it, and to cash in on repair costs when those door handles inevitably break.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Some Kia vehicles (i.e. the newer Sportages and the EV6) have a capacitive touch screen that serves as both the HVAC and infotainment controls, and you have to toggle a switch (?), to switch between the two:

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That usually leads to accidentally adjusting HVAC settings, when you want to adjust infotainment settings instead, and vice versa.

That's getting stupid common.

A hell of a lot cheaper for a screen to do the work than a button and knob bank.


GM, Toyota and to lesser extent Ford and Honda are still big on buttons and switches.

The Germans and Chinese HATE buttons and just copy Tesla idiocy

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

Why does the teams mobile app suck ass

Microsoft Teams is a Google-tier shitshow. On desktop, its pajeetware electron garbage, and on mobile it's slow and unresponsive. I'm impressed by large companies fucking up shit we've had figured out since at least the 1990s.

 

[AnOminous]

That's getting stupid common.

A hell of a lot cheaper for a screen to do the work than a button and knob bank.


GM, Toyota and to lesser extent Ford and Honda are still big on buttons and switches.

The Germans and Chinese HATE buttons and just copy Tesla idiocy

At this point I'd pay extra for a car that didn't have this fucking bullshit and had no computers in it whatsoever. Butlerian Jihad on any AI in cars.

Microsoft Teams is a Google-tier shitshow. On desktop, its pajeetware electron garbage, and on mobile it's slow and unresponsive. I'm impressed by large companies fucking up shit we've had figured out since at least the 1990s.

I hate Electron.

 

[HahaYes]

Students now have to use apps to authenticate in their online shit.

There's a push in banks, even bus rides.

It's either consoom or go live in an ever shrinking forest...

You should see Denmark. A mate of mine mentioned a while back the danish government essentially forced every single one of their citizens to upgrade their phones in order to use some new government ID application called MitID. This application requires chrome to be set as your default browser and among other things, you cannot use online banking without it. They used to have the option of obtaining a paper with authentication codes that would be renewed when required, that's all gone now and you have to use fucking glowie approved™ bullshit. There's apparently exceptions for senior citizens only and I'd imagine even then it's a tough sell to get said exception. I never looked too much into it because what he mentioned already disgusted me enough. It's one of the most horrifying things I've seen in a while

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

You should see Denmark. A mate of mine mentioned a while back the danish government essentially forced every single one of their citizens to upgrade their phones in order to use some new government ID application called MitID. This application requires chrome to be set as your default browser and among other things, you cannot use online banking without it. They used to have the option of obtaining a paper with authentication codes that would be renewed when required, that's all gone now and you have to use fucking glowie approved™ bullshit. There's apparently exceptions for senior citizens only and I'd imagine even then it's a tough sell to get said exception. I never looked too much into it because what he mentioned already disgusted me enough. It's one of the most horrifying things I've seen in a while

Nordics are retarded and will think that if it's from the gobirnment it's good, because no way daddy gobirnment could cheat or con them in any way.

Thread tax: I live Samsung's new humidity sensor. Oh you're anywhere where it's rained in the past 10 months, within 25 miles of a body of water, or anywhere outside of dry arid desert? Wellp your phone refuses to charge at all and it's essentially useless. Can't risk a tiny nano droplet of water causing any damage.

 

[Never Scored]

Microsoft Teams is a Google-tier shitshow. On desktop, its pajeetware electron garbage, and on mobile it's slow and unresponsive. I'm impressed by large companies fucking up shit we've had figured out since at least the 1990s.

The weird thing is Skype already did a lot of the same stuff, worked OK and Microsoft owns that, so why didn't they just do a business version of Skype with more features?

 

[Urotsuki]

When I was in college they sometimes used this website with a "digital dropbox" and online records of grades. Worst course was an all-online course that I missed assignments on, and even later forgot what the class was even about. But at least all that could be accessed from any web browser at the time, also using any OS.

How bad is it now?

I'm not sure about today, but as for a few years ago I heard countless bitching rants from friends who had to take online classes. Not only did they need a mobile app to take pictures to scan and then upload work they wrote on paper, but also requiring them to download the Lockdown browser for any test, which also required webcam access while some fat Indian man watches.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

why didn't they just do a business version of Skype with more features?

I think it's the same reason why the Microsoft Kin (and later the Windows Phone) failed: Microsoft pits internal teams against each other.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

The weird thing is Skype already did a lot of the same stuff, worked OK and Microsoft owns that, so why didn't they just do a business version of Skype with more features?

They raped and murdered Skype after they bought it, flayed it, and stitched the skin back together and called it Teams.