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enoughs enough, i wasnt gunna say anything, but by the time i posted that i still had tabs open in my tor browers session that didnt have that notice up, i probably posted that within minutes of the notice going up.

and fuck u ogre magi i thought u were my fren
Wait, are you actually upset? :story: I really hope you're kidding. Nigga, they are stickers. Relax. They literally don't mean anything. Watch, I'll give you another right now.

Let's not shit up the technical grievances thread, please.
 
I can't remember, but I feel this has been posted before. If it has, it hasn't been solved for me.

Its a small thing: I have the option to vote "semper fidelis", "Deviant", "Achievement" etc.. I have this option since many Kiwifarm-Deaths ago. But when I press it I actually can't and I get:

Oops! We ran into some problems.
You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action.

very spooky
 
I can't remember, but I feel this has been posted before. If it has, it hasn't been solved for me.

Its a small thing: I have the option to vote "semper fidelis", "Deviant", "Achievement" etc.. I have this option since many Kiwifarm-Deaths ago. But when I press it I actually can't and I get:

Oops! We ran into some problems.
You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action.

very spooky
You don't have True and Honest. And only Josh can give Achievements.

If you want to use those stickers, support the forum.
 
is there a way to make chat "opt in"? like having to enable it in settings, or have a toggle or "click to enable" button on each page?
My understanding is that part of the reason chat bogs down everyone is that it is processing EVERYONE in the chat, which ends up being everyone what has a chat enabled page open. If you could have only the people who want to participate in the chat accessing the chat then only they would be affected by slowdowns, which would be reduced as the number of chat participants would be reduced.

or would it be possible to have a read-only mode for chat that doesn't process everyone who's using the chat unless they choose to participate? That could be a manual toggle, then if it's effective made an automatic so that chat is automatically in the more efficient read-only mode until someone submits something to chat.

I second this, I personally do not want to have the chat around, and I see it as a vulnerability. Allowing a way to disable it outright would be great.
 
Without knowing how exactly WebSockets work:
I think that having the small chat window above threads and forums may be the biggest problem. People like to have tons of tabs open when using KF. If each tab has chat embedded, that's what may be spamming up the network.

Should that be the case, enabling chat on the main page only may reduce the load so significantly, that it won't be a problem anymore. There is no reason for people to have the main page open more than once either.
 
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I think that having the small chat window above threads and forums may be the biggest problem. People like to have tons of tabs open when using KF. If each tab has chat embedded, that's what may be spamming up the network.
That's always been the issue but it's hard to get people to actually prefer a chat they have to go out of their way to use.

I've made it so there's no preview but you can still load the chat with a click on any of the same pages.
 
Android mobilefag here. The notification bell frequently says, "Oops! We ran into some problems," instead of showing recent notifications when I tap it. It's not really bothering me because it fixes itself on refresh, but I thought I'd mention it in case that information is useful in a way I'm not aware of.
 
Android mobilefag here. The notification bell frequently says, "Oops! We ran into some problems," instead of showing recent notifications when I tap it. It's not really bothering me because it fixes itself on refresh, but I thought I'd mention it in case that information is useful in a way I'm not aware of.
I've had similar issues. Usually it has to do with needing to go through KiwiFlare again.
 
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Attempted to post a video on coward Vince mchohol profile page loaded up 3 different comment boxes I'm on mobile site using brave
(I could type in each separate)
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IMO the opt-in clicky banner thing should also be done on the front page. GenChat's user list is overpopulated by users that only opened the front page rather than actually engaging in the discussion there. The less inactive users connected to chat the better, especially if the chat embed at the bottom of the front page will cause the frontpage to hang up.
 
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I see something new(ish) called IP_BIND_ADDRESS_NO_PORT which is said to be helpful for websockets in some cases when the usual suspects like increasing the ephemeral port range has been tried. Looks like a flag on the socket with setsockopt(2). On the other hand, it looks like nginx should be using that already for some cases.

If that's already in play it may be as simple as increasing the number of listening ports on the back end so the front end can spread the load and the resulting 4-tuples.

Admittedly last time I touched this stuff way too much time was spent in wireshark.
 
The problem now is that chat works very well but uses websockets which are somehow horrifically damaging network connectivity
It's good to know my jokes about chat killing the site and the Denial of Service is coming from inside the servers were deserved. Not that I know how any of this works.
 
An addendum to my previous concern of chat still being autoloaded on the frontpage and also a new issue:

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Left: GenChat userlist in a tab that was active for a good while
Right: GenChat userlist in a freshly opened tab

Look at the scrollbar, the tab that was active longer has way way way more entries on that list than the one freshly opened.

I feel like Sneedchat fails to unload users from this list that have closed the front page, so the longer the chat tab is open, the more users show up in it, and it will load all the avatars, including all the animated ones.

So making the front page chat opt-in should also be done, but also this issue of Sneedchat loading hundreds of avatars is also problematic.
 
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IMO the opt-in clicky banner thing should also be done on the front page. GenChat's user list is overpopulated by users that only opened the front page rather than actually engaging in the discussion there. The less inactive users connected to chat the better, especially if the chat embed at the bottom of the front page will cause the frontpage to hang up.
This could be done if absolutely necessary. The counterpoint would be chat not being as visible and inviting to use anymore.
Apparently getting people to use chat (instead of shitting threads up too much or joining retarded gay-op discords) was the whole point of the small chat preview above certain boards and threads.

Would it be possible to only load chat when scrolling down far enough for it to actually be in view?
Other than that, being able to manually opt-out from chat would be something I'd 100% support. No need to waste resources on people who actively don't want to use chat.
 
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That's always been the issue but it's hard to get people to actually prefer a chat they have to go out of their way to use.
How about make chat visible on the front page with a button that pops it out into its own window?
 
Jersh is probably not ever going to fix anything actually wrong with Xenforo since the cunts basically banned him and took away his license. Why would he fix their fuckups for free when they hate him?
Late reply but this is maybe not even Xenforo but some addon for the Editor.
Also this only happens for linebreaks created with shift+enter
 
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