Temtems - A Failed Attempt At A Pokeclone

[ChucklesTheJester]

This will be semi-interesting to follow. Hoping for a nice rundown video down the line that isn't either by a shill or someone like verlisify.

No excuses, even the rival is genderspecial!
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Probably old news but whatever.

The more and more I see, the more and more I think the snowflake fakemon might not be a joke, and them embracing the term.

 

[Disc]

Wait, you actually choose your pronouns at the start of the game? That's hilarious, you can't make it any more obvious you're making a game for manchildren instead of kids. Personally, Sword and Shield was very disappointing and its defenders were obnoxious but people who are ready to spend 35 dollars on a poor man's clone are even worse than that. Play Digimon or a fanhack, it's not that hard. They have an obsession with Pokemon even while hating it, so they play an exact copy of it.

Well, I can neither confirm nor deny the comment about manchildren, but I can say that the game has references to Guybrush Threepwood (Monkey Island series, starting in 1990), Inigo Montoya (Princess Bride film, 1987) and Gandalf (2003) all on the first island. So, you tell me.

I'm working on a story post for the first island, and one particular thing from the next island. Let me just say, the Freetem system is incredibly fucked up lorewise if you think about it for more than a second.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Wait, you actually choose your pronouns at the start of the game? That's hilarious, you can't make it any more obvious you're making a game for manchildren instead of kids. Personally, Sword and Shield was very disappointing and its defenders were obnoxious but people who are ready to spend 35 dollars on a poor man's clone are even worse than that. Play Digimon or a fanhack, it's not that hard. They have an obsession with Pokemon even while hating it, so they play an exact copy of it.

I wouldn't even call it the poorman's pokemon. This thing cost $35.

 

[Geoff Peterson]

What's the point of cramming all this weird gender shit into (what I expect to be) a children's game? And also why is it called Temtem? Is there any reason for that name? Pokemon comes from Pocket Monsters, Digimon comes from Digital Monsters and Yokai Watch comes from the god damned fact that you have a watch that summons Yokai in game. So what the hell is Temtem?

I wouldn't even call it the poorman's pokemon. This thing cost $35.

Sword/Shield cost $60 each + $30 if you want the expansion pass. $35 makes it a poor man's Pokemon.

 

[OddEyes]

What's the point of cramming all this weird gender shit into (what I expect to be) a children's game?

Technically it's not, it's supposed to be for veteran pokemon trainers... I suppose.

Now granted, I personally don't mind there being the option of using they and them in a game, I'll probably be hit hard for saying that, but to me, it's just a harmless choice in the game. It doesn't hurt the game imo, but what does is if it's made out to be a big deal - Either by the developers or by the fans, because it's not that big of a deal for a male avatar to go by her. It's simply not, especially in this day and age.

it's just rather petty to me to make it out to be "OH THIS IS TEMTEM! IT'S THE HERO OF GAMERS!"

... Not even kidding on that.

ThePedanticRomantic @ AX on Twitter

“TemTem got to be a hero for the Gamers™ for two days as an example of how GameFreak are lazy hacks before being swiftly cancelled by them for *gasp* letting you pick your pronouns”

twitter.com

Also, for those of you wondering, this special little snowflake was someone who once compared Jews to raping goblins. Not even kidding on that.

 

[Disc]

THE STORY, ISLAND 1, PART 1 - MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING.

You wake up on your 'apprentice's eve', a poorly explained event all around. Your foster mother is the first thing you see past character creation... and her face is a disaster of poor resolution. You're going to be getting your first temtem, and going to the Accademia (yes, it's spelled like that for some reason). It's closer to an initiation day/first day of school, but that would be too basic, so instead we have to make it some special event. Nevermind that the day BEFORE you start something would be it's 'Eve'.

Anyway, most of the town you start in, Zadar, is outside your door, wishing you luck. Then, Max - your blue-haired rival - comes in from offscreen, saying it's his apprentice's eve too. Note this, I'll be bringing it up later.

You head over to Professor Konstantinos' lab (i'll be calling him K from now on. Because f typing that name out every time) where he shows three temtem available to you. Max asks if he has any digital temtem, which is really an excuse for Max to show off his Oree, a Digital temtem. He's asked where he got it from, but doesn't answer. The professor responds by letting us pick one of the starters, which max says is unfair. Clearly he doesn't know about picking the one with an advantage to ours. Prof K makes the statement above, placing the emphasis on the Tamer making the Temtem great.

You exit the lab, and max challenges you to a battle. His Oree has OP attacks, which will one-shot all but one of the starters. The fight is completely unwinnable. Prof K comes out, and starts to excuse your loss, saying digital temtem are super powerful, but Max points out that he just said that the tamer matters more than the temtem. This is what finally gets him to congratulate Max on his win.

Prof. K then gives you a second, rare TemTem - a Tuwai. He says it's an important and rare one. Max claims it's unfair that you get two temtems and he gets none, but regardless, you all move on. You have to get to the Accademia.

Accademia comes up quite a lot over the first town and route. That's where you're going to enroll and learn how to become a real tamer, after all. You get to Brical de Mars, the gym Dojo leader for the island shows you around, including a little souvenir shop, and the Accademia. Max brags and the Dojo leader ignores him. They talk a bit more about the accademia, then the Dojo leader leaves to head north.

But for all the talk about the Accademia?

You never have to enter it. You never even have to walk to that side of town. You just head back to the souvenir shop, show him you've caught at least one temtem from the route beforehand (which is honestly harder to not do by the time you meet him), then you head off up the next route. You get a couple of quests from the Accademia, but neither is all that important - one is just a fetch quest, that gives percentage heals that are weaker than any other heals you can do for the rest of the island, and the other can't be completed until after nearly every major boss on the island is defeated.

Like I mentioned, the beginning establishes two notable things: The importance of the accadacca, and the power of digital temtem. But the academy is entirely skippable, and you can't even get a digital temtem yet, so what's the point in establishing either of these things?

And as much as the game wants you to hate Max, the poor kid really gets a raw deal. Nobody seems to like him - the town gathers around you even though you're both having your apprentice eve, adults seem to dismiss him whenever he talks, and you get two temtems while he only gets one. Everything he does could really easily be explained by an inferiority complex brought on by being second fiddled to the town's star - you. One person even tells you that max 'looks up to you, even though he'd never admit it'.

And on the other side, Professor K is blatantly biased. He not only gives you two temtem and Max none (even though he's got two whole more temtem left to spare), he actively changes his tune when it suits him. K starts by saying that a good tamer can make any temtem great, then when you lose, he says you lost because Max's temtem is better (which is true, but it's the hypocrisy of it). Max calls him out on it, and rather than coming up with some kind of justification (the one that popped into my head was 'Max and Oree have had more time to learn about each other, so their synergy is stronger') all he can do is weakly congratulate him. And then he further undermines his point by giving you a SECOND rare temtem!

But the story has more quirks, which I'll get to in another post.

What's the point of cramming all this weird gender shit into (what I expect to be) a children's game? And also why is it called Temtem? Is there any reason for that name? Pokemon comes from Pocket Monsters, Digimon comes from Digital Monsters and Yokai Watch comes from the god damned fact that you have a watch that summons Yokai in game. So what the hell is Temtem?

Sword/Shield cost $60 each + $30 if you want the expansion pass. $35 makes it a poor man's Pokemon.

It's not a children's game. It's got a pretty high difficulty curve. It's pretty much aimed directly at sleeping with Pokemon's jilted exes.

Compared to the 3DS games of pokemon, TemTem is only $5 cheaper in USD. And it'd be charitable to call it half-complete right now. AND they're planning to add cosmetic Mtx.

 

[Intelligent Calcium]

Everyone's favourite Redletter Media member gives his take. No, not Josh, the other one.

Nothing too notable, though some of the comparisons he makes show that he hasn't played the last few gens.

 

[OddEyes]

Everyone's favourite Redletter Media member gives his take. No, not Josh, the other one.

Nothing too notable, though some of the comparisons he makes show that he hasn't played the last few gens.

Does he usually talk this slow? Also... 37k views... From a million plus sub channel... OUCH.

1:26

"A dopple gamer?"

... Not gonna lie, REALLY wanted to click that x in the corner after that cringe.

 

[Bioniclelover]

Fun fact: Devs actually MADE UP a word in their own language to match the english pronoun bullshit. It's el/ella/ELLE to match he/she/they. They have to certain kind of special to invent a word in their language to match their agenda lmao.

 

[Brain Power]

Fun fact: Devs actually MADE UP a word in their own language to match the english pronoun bullshit. It's el/ella/ELLE to match he/she/they. They have to certain kind of special to invent a word in their language to match their agenda lmao.

Could have been worse. Ellx/Ell@ are other SPESHUL """gender-neutral""" variations. It's dumb (and tiring if you hate wokeness).

 

[ScatmansWorld]

Oh its gonna kill Pokemon?

Just like Digi-oh

Actuallyyyyyyyy Digimon wasn’t made to compete with Pokémon. Bandai made Tamogachi pets and they sold really well, but boys weren’t buying it so they needed a more “cool” version, so they made Digimon which is basically the same thing but you can make them fight together.

 

[Love Machine]

A children's game?

This was marketed from the ground up to be a pokemon alternative. So I doubt its actually a childrens game in their mind, its just wearing that skin. They are gunning for pokefags that are fed up but still want in to scratch the monster collecting itch. Though I think they forgot digimon, yokai watch, and (to a lesser extent) SMT are all relatively well known alternatives.

 

[MysticMisty]

And as much as the game wants you to hate Max, the poor kid really gets a raw deal. Nobody seems to like him - the town gathers around you even though you're both having your apprentice eve, adults seem to dismiss him whenever he talks, and you get two temtems while he only gets one. Everything he does could really easily be explained by an inferiority complex brought on by being second fiddled to the town's star - you. One person even tells you that max 'looks up to you, even though he'd never admit it'.

And on the other side, Professor K is blatantly biased. He not only gives you two temtem and Max none (even though he's got two whole more temtem left to spare), he actively changes his tune when it suits him. K starts by saying that a good tamer can make any temtem great, then when you lose, he says you lost because Max's temtem is better (which is true, but it's the hypocrisy of it). Max calls him out on it, and rather than coming up with some kind of justification (the one that popped into my head was 'Max and Oree have had more time to learn about each other, so their synergy is stronger') all he can do is weakly congratulate him. And then he further undermines his point by giving you a SECOND rare temtem!

Maybe this is why he decided to become a genderspecial: he couldn't think of any other way to get attention from people.

 

[haudi]

So Temtem is gonna be THAT type of game for the gender special players huh? Could this game get any worse?

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

This was marketed from the ground up to be a pokemon alternative. So I doubt its actually a childrens game in their mind, its just wearing that skin. They are gunning for pokefags that are fed up but still want in to scratch the monster collecting itch. Though I think they forgot digimon, yokai watch, and (to a lesser extent) SMT are all relatively well known alternatives.

Just makes me image that fake-mon that they bought off that guy wearing the skin of pikachu asking. "Do you love me now?"

So Temtem is gonna be THAT type of game for the gender special players huh? Could this game get any worse?

This is only the start, one can only think about how it's all down hill from here.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Maybe this is why he decided to become a genderspecial: he couldn't think of any other way to get attention from people.

I'd laugh if that is the actual reason.

I saw some footage of the game barely working from its launch, it looks alright, I'm interested to see how the whole blue bar replacing PP plays out in actual battles and not just easy early game battles. I liked the Colosseum games focus on double battles so I kind of like seeing a game more directly design a pokemon-esque game around double battles. The art style looks kind of eh, it is like anime yet not anime, it just looks strange just go full anime if you want to make an anime game. I also hate the lazy "voice acting" that just spouts random lines as that shit gets old fast especially when you don't have competent voice talent.

I might give the game a shot once I see it actually finished as I have absolutely no faith in any potential of a Steam early access game enough to put down even 10 dollars let alone 35.

 

[Coolio55]

I mean we really needed a soy reboot of pokemon, it's not like we've already got tons of monster collecting RPGS like Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker ...or Medabots ...or Telefang (Where you can explore THE ELECTRIC MONSTER'S WORLD) ...or any of the Shin Megami Tensei games really but especially the handheld ones ...or sort of the Megaman RPGS (In those you trade and collect weapon cards. Weapon card RPGs could be a whole other list)

 

[ducktales4gameboy]

I’m glad this is shaping up to be the trainwreck we were expecting in the Pokemon thread.

This is a Unity game isn’t it? I’ll take a look inside when I can track down the DLL with the scripts. In my experience developer wokeness is inversely correlated with code quality, and seeing that rival/pronoun bullshit has given me a gut feeling that there’s going to be something very funny/terrifying going on behind the scenes.

 

[OddEyes]

So, I was going through some comments of a few Temtem vids, and here's something that made me raise an eyebrow:

Highlighted part right there, and I've seen a few people in comment sections saying this: "Online is to prevent hacking, makes competitive training more fair", and I'm sitting here thinking...

Being online doesn't prevent hacking. People have made a living off of doing that, and the same thing here will happen.

Also, apparently there will be an auction house later down the line where you can sell your excess Temtem - and that's the reason why your Temtem can become infertile. But again, that won't stop hackers.

 

[Coolio55]

If its unity you can just use this:

icsharpcode/ILSpy

.NET Decompiler with support for PDB generation, ReadyToRun, Metadata (&more) - cross-platform! - icsharpcode/ILSpy

github.com

It worked for yanderesim.